nanotechnology???

some scary shit if you ask me...
http://crnano.org/timeline.htm

 

This was discussed on Coast to Coast AM with George Noory a few nights ago. He had an expert on nanotechnology on, it was quite interesting.

And while it is very scary when you consider the things nanotechnology can be used for and how it can be exploited, it does have its benefits as well, such as detecting (and even curing) certain diseases like Cancer. Unfortunately, I think the negatives might outweigh the positives.

If you are interested in nanotechnology, or think you might be, I highly recommend this website at http://nanothink.netfirms.com as a good place for information.

 

Well, there are lots of advantages to nanotechnology. You could have tiny robots patroling your bloodstream, checking for infections, administering drugs, or alerting emergency medical help when it's needed. It could find tumors and such as they're forming, and possibly prevent deaths from other such things.
We could use nanotechnology to help break down waste in land fills. Plastics and other materials take thousands of years to degrade, this technology could help accelerate that process.
There are a vast many things we could do with it that are positive.

 

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sure there is alot of good this technology can do...but the evil side of man will definatley make it not worth it in the long run imo

 

I think you're wrong on that. There are a great many things man can use for evil, and yet the world is not in chaos.
For instance, guns. A tool. A double edged sword. You can use it for good, you can use it for evil. 75% of the American population owns a gun. America is not a chaotic nation.
The internet. A communications tool. It can be used ot keep contact with friends, family, or to stay aware of recent events. It can also be used to communicate nuclear secrets to terrorists, or to spread viruses that harvest your personal information, resulting in theft and fraud.
Yet, these things are not a major problem to most people.
I for one am optimistic.

 

I am actually doing research in nano-technology. My doctoral thesis will be in the biomedical applications of nano-technology. We have the possiblity to detect cancer earlier, and treat it in a less toxic and more effective manner using bio-nano materials. I am sure that not all nano-research is for good, but I am one scientist who is committed to using this new-found field to help people and not hurt them. Many other scientists are with me on this. As with all scientific research, some jerk will find a way to use it in a bad way. That doesn't mean we should give up all efforts when it can potentially help millions of people.

 

Anyone interested in nanotech should read the book "Prey" by michael crichton. It is a pretty fast read with little to offer by way of advancement of the human race, but it is really cool in the description of the nanotech possibilities, and some of the possible downfalls. Also, there was a story in the periodical Fantasy & Science Fiction which I am frustrated at being unable to remember the title, but the jist of it was that a nanotype escaped or was leaked from a lab, and it "infected" some people, and started mutating and growing very strange inhuman things. The end has a chilling warning of what could possibly occur. I WISH I COULD REMEMBER THE TITLE!!! I think I have it still, but I have too many issues to look through right now and too many things above it on my to-do list.

-I need to put "reorganizing my to-do list" on my to-do list.

"The class or set of allthoughts is increasingly directed and homogenized. It follows that the power of any given "free" thought is analogous (in terms of mental autonomy) to a geometrically increasing sum or an accelerating vector. The translation process instantiated in the interaction between autonomous thought and consensus thought amounts to a two-way Fourier transformation between objects in a unified space-time mind, and their waveform equivalents. Fourier showed that any three-dimensional pattern can be analyzed into a set of regular, periodic oscillations that differ only in frequency, amplitude, and phase. Specific and autonomous "thoughtforms" therefore can be exact representations-'Fourier-transforms'-of spatiotemporal objects" ---Spectral Mind Industries

 

There is talk of nanotech as if it is some minor development.

Sucessfull development of nanotechnology by humans is the greatest
leap in physical methodology that we as a species can grasp.

It will, when we can do it.
Make us as gods.
Nanotek successfully applied. Is the greatest physical evolution we have revealed. It renders the industrial revolution to a backwater.

Ever heard of the term 'acausal creation'?

WE will be able to make any physical thing we wish.
THAT is nanotek
It will be MAGIC to the understanding of the present.

Just as you desktop PC that you now look at.
Is MAGIC to those of 1000 AD. [in all concepts of the word 'understanding']

Occam

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Just so it is defined.
Nanotek is the
Abillity to create machines that will create whatever we wish.
These machines are very small,
because the stuff of reality is very small.
The machines will build, molecule by molecule. Any physical structure.
Be it a chocolate bar
A curry dinner
A hypersonic spacecraft
Or ANYTHING we wish.

Think on this.

 

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Could it even build a womanfriend for my......personal use, shall we say?

 

anyone considered that this could be used in the processing of nuclear waste- so that in effect, nuclear power would become a completely (or very nearly) clean source of energy?

 

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The book "Prey" is a total crock. Nothing in it has anything to do with reality. Please do not base your idea of nano-technology on that. It is absolutely ridiculous. Fiction books are fun and I hope that most people take it as just that : Fiction.

 

earthy44

Who wrote this book?
Have not heard of it.

Occams undestanding of the potential of nanotek is based across a wide field of technical and fictional extrapolation. And most of the fiction from physicists.

Occam

 

As the founder of the first nanotech startup in NC, i have a unique perspective on this subject. I helped invent some of the fundamental materials for the nanotechnology revolution, and my business partner has nearly perfected the first generation assembler. I have been in the middle of nanotech development since 1987.

Occam gives a good description of molecular nanotechnology as K. Eric Drexler describes it. The development of true molecular nanotechnology will transform our world in a way that humanity has not seen since the invention of fire. All bets are off and all predictions of a post nanotech future are merely guesses without much foundation.

I have written on nanotech forums that the greatest danger from nanotechnology may be the medical "benefits". Just what would humanity do with a cure for all diseases and a considderable extension of the life span. Is this really a good thing???? the world is already grossly overpopulated. If we can escape our speciocentrism and respect life in general, we may see that such developments only worsen the out-of-controll infestation of humans on this lovely orb.
This revolution is at our door. none of us can escape it by hiding or ignoring it. This is a whole new tool set that renders all previous tools obsolete. If those of good conscience run from technology, only the unscrupulous will know how to use the new tools. Face it, war and war mongers finance most scientific innovation on this planet. Who do you think is most interested in nanotech? the balance of world power could change over night. Are those of us who love all of life to be mowed over by those who are only motivated by a lust for power? I would rather hide in my woods and grow things, but i accept my place right in the middle of this evolution, and i hope that i can help our world evolve to a more peaceful reasonable existence.

BTW nuclear fission is far too dirty of a process to be considdered reasonable in a nanotech world. there are plenty of better options.

Jim

 

Prey was written by Michael Crichton, it is a fiction book and a complete non-reality. I suggested it because it was the second fiction story I had read on nanotech and it captivated me, and would probably captivate others, but it is by no means a foundation of knowledge for the field. It is a very fun read though. If you want real info on nanotech, pick up a periodical.

"The class or set of all thoughts is increasingly directed and homogenized. It follows that the power of any given "free" thought is analogous (in terms of mental autonomy) to a geometrically increasing sum or an accelerating vector. The translation process instantiated in the interaction between autonomous thought and consensus thought amounts to a two-way Fourier transformation between objects in a unified space-time mind, and their waveform equivalents. Fourier showed that any three-dimensional pattern can be analyzed into a set of regular, periodic oscillations that differ only in frequency, amplitude, and phase. Specific and autonomous "thoughtforms" therefore can be exact representations-'Fourier-transforms'-of spatiotemporal objects" ---Spectral Mind Industries

 

all i can think of with nano tech is the borg, and 'pre crime'...trusting the gov to put stuff in me that alters my body (and no doubt your way of thinking) does not appeal to me...there would be country 'loyalty' programs...gps locaters for every person...machines that would be able to pick up on a jolt of aldrenaline or activity in certain centres of the brain that could alert the authorities of a possible crime taking place..ie...you just smoked up...or shot up...

 

Jim

Agree . And occam will refer to you with questions on nanotek. He is a generalist and has some understnding but too little to fathom the depths of control mechanisms and programing in such a small unit.
A single 'machine'. microns across.
This is 'leading edge tech'
And as said. If successfully enabled. Will transform our world..

Have read some on first gen assembling. sheet/layer assembly of pure molecules?

Agree also on fisson power.. already obsolete by occams understanding.
The most efficient power is from orbital arrays of solar grids beaming power to the surface .
Or fusion. But tokomak is still struggling with the technology.

Occam

 

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