What is God?

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by lostinmyowndreams, Apr 13, 2005.

  1. brandon_aint_dead

    brandon_aint_dead Member

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    i don't know, i'm sorry
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  2. NEMISIS

    NEMISIS GONE

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    No worries.
    Peace man.
    Lets just move on now.:)
     
  3. brandon_aint_dead

    brandon_aint_dead Member

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    :H coo'
     
  4. tumbledownDNA

    tumbledownDNA Member

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    I totally agree with you here on how/what religion has become to man. i guess what I'm sayin is that the answer we're looking for is in the question, and once we totally submit to that randomness, the never ending question and insecurity and stop trying to give it some sort of man made structure, we will know without knowing... realize that happiness or peace of mind, god watever is already in us and stop looking for something external or outside of us for the answer... just be it not strive for it. the more we talk about it the more confusing it gets... the problem with our society is that we become so disconnected and seperate to others and ourselves that without initially striving to understand or find an answer, we will most likely never find it, but when we look to hard it ends up becoming a block to the whole process... even what im doing righ tnow.
     
  5. Weatherman

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    Man's greatest mistake.
     
  6. brandon_aint_dead

    brandon_aint_dead Member

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    god became a big fat excuse
     
  7. cabdirazzaq

    cabdirazzaq Member

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    Excuse for what, the obvious?
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    f there is creation then there must be a Creator. So, can we find creation today? If not then how come everything is so perfectly calculated and suited for organic life? As you, young man are reading this, millions of braincells are in communication with each other working on a few picoseconds so as to send signals to hundreds of different parts in your body. Meanwhile your eyes have the ability to [thorugh light photons and an exremly advanced biochemical process] give something we call sight. So where did all this come from? Let see some answers by two different persons, one a famous amatour biologist and the other the most famous scientist in the world:

    "How a nerve comes to be sensitive to light, hardly concerns us more than how life itself first originated"- Darwin

    "this most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful being."- Isak Newton
     
  8. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    What is God? Here's how I see it. Look at a tree. All the leaves, if they were conscious, would look around and see other leaves and think they are all seperate from each other. That leaf is Bill, that leaf is Sally, and this leaf is me, Brandon. But in reality, those leaves are joined by branches and twigs to the trunk. The universe is the same way. I'm not saying the trunk is god. I'm saying the tree is god. It has distinct parts but not seperate parts.

    God is the ground of all being, the essential, the only, component to an existant entity. Granted, the objects on my desk do not connect to me through a tangible "branch" but we are all made of the same stuff (ask a physicist). That "stuff" is god, god is the universe. Any seperateness is an illusion of an ignorant leaf.

    I try to avoid using the word god because of it's connotations, saying it brings to mind a [seperate] being in the sky, who judges, loves, punishes and rewards. Basically very human. I don't see god that way. God is everything. God is in me and I am in god, there's no where I (or anything else) can be where god isn't (because I or the object IS god, in part).

    I also figure that to know god, we just have to get to know ourselves. For yeah, I can look to scriptures and know god indirectly. Looking at the other leaves, I can see them and intellectually understand my connection to them. But god is far more intimately manifest directly as my very being; so I can best know him by being the leaf, and realizing that I'm also part of a twig, branch, and trunk, and thus part of every other leaf twig and branch.
     
  9. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    First, it is an assumption that this is a "creation". It exists, but hasn't been proven to have been "created" with intent.

    Second, things are suited for organic life because organic life has evolved to fit the constraits of the environment. If things were different, life would have evolved differently.

    But still, I don't know where it came from. I find the idea of a master archetect hard to swallow though. A master actor (acting as everything in existance) makes more sense to me. But even that is just an idea I have.
     
  10. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    And thanks for yours..i enjoyed thinking about it and like what you had too say..I would just personaly wish that both thoughts were given to people and they took there pick..In a lot of cases the choice is not available or it is restricted...

    Due to your high post count ..it has been hard to stay away from you..your all over the place..:p ..Yeah i hope i too see you about a bit.. :)
     
  11. brandon_aint_dead

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    no i dont believe in god as an excuse for what we dont understand (the obvious as you say), i believe 'he' represents everything we have come to understand about ourselves, what we understood long before histerical civilisation, and there's some serious psychology dealing with it. If there isn't a god, then WE are god, if the rules have been written and the logic devised.. if there is a possible way for us to live our lives in harmoney according to scripture, if it wasnt god who inspired us it was simpley us, surely?
    god is a continual excuse, and distraction from knowing ourselves as..
    bla! :X

    peace baby ; )
     
  12. cabdirazzaq

    cabdirazzaq Member

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    Would you please be kind enough to make it alittle more simple understandble so even low intelligent creatures like my self can understand, and it wouldn't lower any of you linguistic abilities if you would omitt the word "f*ck". ^^
     
  13. brandon_aint_dead

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    yo im sorry i cant put it any other way

    it wouldnt take an level of intelligence to understand what i wrote, coz it didnt take any to write, heh, ho, anyway
    did you know know the word fuck and the word god are the same thing> to not use the word fuck would upset the balance! : ), read it one day...
     
  14. cabdirazzaq

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    Ma Error. Cause: Could not syncronise something to reply with.
     
  15. brandon_aint_dead

    brandon_aint_dead Member

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    hmmm... :confused:

    what r u?
     
  16. cabdirazzaq

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    I am an 16 year old muslim boy from Sweden who doesn't know why he's indulging in this conversation?
     
  17. Insight_m

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    God Is...
    Damn, i still need to pay my house rent, internet bills, phone bills, TV lisence,electricity bill and my car insurance and my car service and my weekly food supply and my kids nappys and my water bill...ohoh and my gas bill... ah fuck, and i still have to get up at 8am to go to work 2moro... :rolleyes: Its ok thou..i still beleive in god coz atleast breathing is free...pheww.
     
  18. brandon_aint_dead

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    hahaha, well!
    well.




    i think i am the same except im a girl, and from england, and im catholic.
    actually no i know why i am doing this, i have tourettes
     
  19. Raven-23

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    If not then how come everything is so perfectly calculated and suited for organic life ?

    thank about it there are billions of solar systums out there, its the odds, people ask y me its not about you, you just got what you got because of the odds
    you dont thank that there is other life out there i am sure there is and even if they landed in the past we would not know the goverment wouldent let us

    and for god if he is out there he or she or it shuld show its self i thank that people shuld go back to more earth bond religons because the earth is sufering
     
  20. cabdirazzaq

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    As prof. S. Meyer discussed in one of his essays there must(if your suggestion is correct) exist something or someone who can regulate all these universes, a universe creating machine. Creating such a thing would need intelligence it self, would it not?

    I do not want to argue, Im not all to found of that, sharing views is alot better. We live in a beautiful and breathtaking world

    [​IMG][​IMG](taken from Harun Yahya)

    Ever took a nice walk out in the forest, watching the birds as they fly and the wind as it slowly moves some beautiful leaves on the ground. I am sure, since you recognize "the many worlds theory" you know that one cell in your body is more advanced than anything man has designed and everything co-operates withing pico seconds within your body, its amazing indeed.

    What is life?
    I for one, do not know, I only know that I appreciate it and I am very thankful for have been given it. Nothing could not have produced everything.

    Or were they created by nothing Or were they themselves the creators
    Or did they create the heavens and the earth Nay, but they have no firm belief.[Quran 52.35-36 Interpretation of the meaning)
     

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