Election

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Lozi, May 4, 2005.

  1. Lozi

    Lozi Senior Member

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    emergency! what are the policies of the raving loonies and lib dems? i need to pick now! hum, we don't have a green or respect candidate in our area!
     
  2. dhARmaMiLlO

    dhARmaMiLlO Member

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  3. Lozi

    Lozi Senior Member

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    legend, thanks:)
     
  4. Smartie.uk

    Smartie.uk Member

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    dont vote green party.. bunch of hypocrits.. chugging around in a big boat protecting whales and sea life.. but burning more deisel than a fleet of lorries.:p
     
  5. Koolaid

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    No offense but are you really going to base your vote on a link sent to you the day before the election without looking at anything else.....
     
  6. dhARmaMiLlO

    dhARmaMiLlO Member

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    better than a whim
     
  7. Koolaid

    Koolaid Member

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    Not really....It shows a lack of understanding, the links may be bias, the links show very little of the parties full policies and surely as you are deciding on the future of the country, which may I add we all moan about on here, that you would spend a little more time than the evening before deciding what you were going to do...


    So no sorry not better than just a whim...
     
  8. dhARmaMiLlO

    dhARmaMiLlO Member

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    ....



    i'm going to choose the prettiest colour...
     
  9. Lozi

    Lozi Senior Member

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    i'm not just basing my voting choice on the internet link i have been observing and listening to the parties policies i just forget though. plus i needed names of my local candidates. i don't want to vote now.gr. too much choice, pretty much all the same at the end of the day...gotta be the raving loonies///
     
  10. Koolaid

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    Well lets hope you don't like blue then...:p
     
  11. Smartie.uk

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    full policies?... future of britain?.. lets face it man, all these little parties that give unimportant minorities like us hope of a better world are never gonna win... the future of britain is fucked because the majority of voters like to remain in their "i tell, you do" worlds.. you might as well close your eyes and draw a cross. the 3 main parties are exactly the same.. some just have a better way of trying to convince you that their not.
     
  12. Peace-Phoenix

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    Well Monster Raving Loonies are a joke party, so you wouldn't vote for them based on policies. Lib Dems were, at least to a certain extent, against the war, against top up fees, want to raise taxes to fund higher pensions and other such welfare reforms, though are against increasing the minimum wage. Drawbacks are they want to privatise the Royal Mint, which seems to me to be a very odd thing to do, let alone representing further encroaching privatisation, they're also fairly bad on workers rights in strike situations. So a mixed bag. Who's your sitting MP? If they're anti-war Labour it may be better to vote Labout (eurgh). If they're a Blairite then Lib Dems may seem a sensible tactical vote, unless you risk letting a Tory in. If they're a Tory, then the best vote would be for the party with the best chance of unseating them....
     
  13. Smartie.uk

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    now on the subject of uni fee's.. is this such a bad thing.. i've been to uni.. i paid my way.. sure i would have loved to do it for free.. but i would have loved to go travelling for free too... i saw what uni was about and i dont really like the idea of funding people to do 2 years of excessive drug abuse then drop out.. sure some of us make it through.. but lets face its uni's a hoot i wouldn't expect any1 to fund me to have that much fun...
    sure education should be a right and it is.. up until the point when you decide you would rather be furthur educated than getting a job and paying for people to get furthur educations.

    and lets face it the student loan system is a laugh... i gotta earn 15,000 a year before i start paying it back.. ever gonna happen? not fuckin likely.. i got a ba in performing arts.
     
  14. dapablo

    dapablo redefining

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    If you don't like your candidates vote for them all, spoilt ballots are counted. Not one of us is going to elect the next government, but to know your vote was counted might help.
     
  15. Peace-Phoenix

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    Hmmmm, I don't know what experiences of uni you had, but I'm finding uni's about bloody hard work for a degree! Course it's about the fun too, but it's also about bettering yourself and furthering your employment prospects. Given that most people with a degree end up in higher paid jobs anyway, and end up paying more taxes, then the investment in their education is for the benefit of all society. I doubt most students had the same experiences as the one you described at the end of the day. Everyone dosses, everyone goes out, gets pissed, gets stoned, but most people don't drop out, and most people, at the end of the day, will work their asses of for a good degree. It's why they're there.


    Charging students flat rate fees for attending uni is a bad policy because students for lower income families will have to pay the same, and the assistance given is not adequate, nor are the loans especially generous. I'm having to rely on about £600 a term from my parents on top of the loan just to survive. My parents can afford that thankfully, but I doubt all can. So you're left with the only option, having to work during term time. At Cambridge and Oxford you're not allowed to work during term, which leaves low income students with serious problems. Also studies have shown that the additional top up fees are going to put off more students from poor families. So I don't think, if we're thinking about the larger picture and a more meritocratic society, there is much of an argument for top up fees. Raise the top rate of tax to increase funding to universities. 80% of people in the top tax bracket have degrees, and by then, they can afford to pay back their debts to society. I know I'd rather do it that way round....
     
  16. the_sweet

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    we should all exercise our rights to vote. It's a good thing.
     
  17. dhARmaMiLlO

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  18. SelfControl

    SelfControl Boned.

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    I didn't get a vote because the cunts didn't send it. If I had had one I'd have voted LibDem, just so I can vote Tory without feeling dirty (only joking).

    Has anyone won yet?
     
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