A GOOD debate!

I know what's wrong with the NEW Hip Forums! Nobody is having a GOOD Debate! Well, DAMMIT! Let's start one! Anyone?!?!?!

 

Well... It looks cookie cutter now.....

 

I don't mind the New forums. I was just trying to START something... You know? a good Debate? I say tomahtoh, You say tomatoe...

 

Ohh! I misread Thought it said whats wrong with the new forums. Yeah I know what you mean... The debates are mostly in the political forums and generally the same arguments over and over and over and over and over.

 

A debate I'd LIKE to see, would be btwenn Steven Hawking, and Albert Einstien.
I'd give real MONEY for that one!
Of course, I'd have to get involved!

 

you say tomahtoh? jesus man whats your problem

 

Just trying to make my point.

 

lol but ya i agree with u matt, all the debates r in the poiltical forum and they r all bush this bush that its pretty boring after a while, and every1 in there is narrow minded anyone that says bush is good etc or promotes bush that person gets hounded, kinda sad if i do say so myself..just my opinionwe need to have debates about other topics...good debates...something besdies politics

 

Yeah, that one going in "Possible Draft?" is abso-freaking-loutely HORRIBLE, at this point. I need a good, wholesome, fun debate, not a crazy, balls-to-the-wall, psycho-heated argument.

And yeah, who the hell says tomahtoh, anyhow??

LOL!

 

I´m absolutely in love with Einstein

 

Go Hawking! That man is AWESOME!!!

 

Well. It seems we have some intelligent players, so! Let's get this thing Started!

First Topic. Does a persons size or appearance matter to you, when deciding to enter into a relationship with that person???

MY Opinion: No. Not JUST "No", but... HELL NO! I'm like the guy in the film, "Shallow Hal" in this respect. I have the gift to see what's INSIDE a person. I can see what is in thier HEART. I couldn't care LESS about the outside.

And... "Who's our next contestant?"

 

I would say no to. I've been with persons who I would not consider phisically atractive but they were an amazing person on the inside. What really matters is who the person is, not what they look like.

 

More important to me is chemistry. How do I feel when I am around them? If there are fireworks, then I don't care what they look like. Case and point: I find BBM more aesthetically pleasing to my eye. However, the guy that I've been with for the last six months is very thin, thinner than me. But, from the first second I met him, we've had this INCREDIBLE connection. I don't care what he looks like, I just love the way I feel when we are together.

 

Well, see, I think this is a complicated question (which I'm sure is why you picked it, matt.) First, I think it depends on weather you are choosing a partner or playmate. For me, personally, I would have to say that looks do play a part, but not a large one.
I was with a man who a first I was not attracted to. He was very tall, and a little over weight. He didn't dress very hip, but he was German, and everybody knows that they don't have fashion sense over there (I'm just kidding, of course!!!) But he was very intelligent, and kind, and well read, and opinionated! My interest in him quickly grew, and as it did, he became more and more attractive to me.
My husband wasn't the hottest guy I'd ever seen when I met him, but it was love at first sight - seriously. I thought the same thing was happening with us, but than all my girl friends started hitting on him, and telling me how sexy he was, so I guess he just got more attractive in general!

I think that somewhere in us, instincivly we are attracted to healthy looking people. I think this is essential for the survival of any species. A healthy person would be in good shape, somewhat muscular (probably men more visibly than women) and perhaps tan from working in the sun. I think there is a part of natural selection that still plays a role in modern day societies idea of an attractive person.

If I was choosing a playmate type of relationship, I would be more inclinded to choose on looks, and how much fun that person is, and how they make me feel.

 

Attractiveness does count, but what I find attractive is usually pretty different than what most women look for when they are judging this quality. There is usually one feature or characteristic that stands out, and it's not always the way they look, it might be their laugh or sense of humor. But in all honesty, I really do judge the whole package. I would be more likely to actually initiate something with an attractive man, I suppose. But that's just me.

Is it right? Absolutely not. But it's honest.

All right, I will be curled in a ball somewhere hiding from the responses I'm gonna get from this. Be gentle, ya'll, I bruise easily!

 

I should perhaps expand on my opinion just a little. I like my women a little on the larger side. I've gone out with thin women, and all the thin ones I've met, are way too shallow for my tastes. "Buy me this?" or "I can't eat that. It's fattening!" Or some oter crap like that. (I do live in Las Vegas...) I just prefer someone who's a little more realistic.

 

I usually go by how a person makes ME FEEL,not how they "look", if there is a spark at the very first moment I tend to believe we have been exposed to each other in some form in a dream or past life, but thats a whole nother subject...lol.

If I feel good around them I want to open up to them and them to me, if they seem interesting, I want to learn more, if they are shy I like to feel I have helped them open up and be comfortable around me.
I loved my husband from the very first moment I saw him.
I have other men and women I have loved from the moment I saw them although on another level.

The weight issue totally sucks but as I view society in general i see how body size is presented in the media and sends out the wrong message as far as accepting yourself, and accepting others.
Its so sad when we get so caught up in trying to live up to others expectations and we lose our true selves in the process.
Most people have wonderful things to offer if we only take a moment to recognize that.

I have been on both ends of the scale...312 lbs at my highest...8 lbs at my lowest.

I have felt judged by my weight, from men hitting on me when they felt I was physically attractive and obviously not giving a crap about what was on the inside just interested in sleeping with me...to others trying to make me feel I was "less" than a person because someone thought I didn't deserve respect because I was not their ideal of an attractive person.(gave them an earful)

I also have had good friends that I made at my largest size, people who saw past the outward apperance and took in the whole person that is me.
I have lost weight,but it took along time for me to get to that point where I could shed the problems that led me to that point.
And it is now a health issue, I want to be healthy and whatever weight comes with that is fine with me.
When I see a woman who is big, I look at HER, what is she about, is she approachable?? Is she comfortable with who she is???
That draws me in...if she needs help and is stuck, I try to pick up on that and offer any advice where I can.
But I certainly do not believe in trying to change anyone, people are where they are, if they are ready for change,its there for them, if they are fine where they are ...good for them.
But I also believe life is better being as healthy as you can be,whatever weight you end up at, and we owe it to ourselves, and our love ones to live as well as we can.
teepi

 

Maybe we can use THAT for the NEXT subject?

 

I agree with that, teepi! Health is what is most important!!! Some people are healthier a little heavier than some may think they should be. I, Personally, strugle a little with being under weight. I'm still young, so I know my matablism will change again (and again) but for now I have no trouble loosing weight, it just drops right off of me! This can cause a big problem, especailly as a breastfeeding mother, because I need to have a little extra fat, and toxins are stored in the fat cells, and as I loose weight those toxins are released through my milk, which is not good for my baby! Loosing weight slowly is always best.

With my first son I had gained well over 50lbs, and when he was about nine months old I had droped to much weight that I looked like a twelve year old girl! I was so thin! I kept hitting my boney elbow on my boney hip, and it bruised and it hurt! People kept telling me how good I looked, and how lucky I was that I lost all the weight! I just kept thinking how sad our society is that they see me, ovbiously under weight, looking almost like a child myself, as attractive!

I don't know why I went into all of that.... but my point is that a healthy person is a beautiful person! When you're healthy you'll feel better, so you will look better. Whether healthy for you seems smaller or larger than others think you should be, it's right for you!