I was thinking, and i have decided to start hunting! I will still not eat meat-industry products, however. I came to this decision while watching a show on ape/human evolution. The earliest intelligent apes survived not because of strength or speed like other animals, but with their smarts. So, instead of fighting bare handed, they would probably have hurled stones, fought with sticks, etc. Well, instead of sticks and stones, humans use their intellect to fashion guns. There really is no difference; its just how humans survive. Because it is so natural to use the intellect which makes the human race so unique, i see eating meat as natural as well. Hunting and the meat-industry are two different stories, however. There is a great difference between hunting your own food, and simply buying meat from someone who has done it for you. Plus, there is nothing natural about raising animals like slaves. So by hunting, i feel that i am just expressing the human nature inside of me and following the cycle of life.
But we are no longer primitive man and don't have to hunt and eat meat to survive... We have the choice now not to.
Hunters--they may be archaic in thought, but at least they are not hypocrites! Colours, if this is truly how you feel, I encourage you to explore this philosophy to the fullest. Although I disagree with your gun stance. I believe guns make it too easy & impersonal, just like the supermarket meat aisle. If you can, use the most rudimentary weapons at close range, like the Native Americans did. Only then will you have a full appreciation for your prey. Good luck.
While you're out hunting, maybe you should try and express other aspects of your primitive nature as well. How about finding a woman, beating her over the head with a rock, dragging her back to your cave and raping her? Don't worry about the ethics - it's just your primitive nature. If you're still dubious about it, just remind yourself that so long as you respect her, then it's OK.
And yet ... By embracing a philosophy like that, all you are doing is showing that you can't handle being moral, that you aren't a human being capable of rising above being just a mere animal. So how are we expected to call you a human being? Human beings have adapted a survival strategy called morality; they've done so because it's a GOOD evolutionary strategy to protect both the individual and the species. You, however, have not adapted any morality; you're just another brainless, soulless animal, like all the rest. You're very lucky that true humans don't shoot brainless animals, because your head might very well have been next if we did. Because it's hard to consider such a primitive being as yourself "human" in any way, shape, or form. But do continue not eating animal products. Not that it makes any sense, though. Animals eat animal products; if your goal is to become more primitive, why would you continue not eating them? Furthermore, if your goal is to become more primitive and animallike, why aren't you running around killing things with guns instead of talking on the Internet? Or do you not have the capability to be purely animal-like either? Pick one or the other; don't bother wasting time trying to become some kind of weird, screwed-up hybrid.
*claps* This really goes against the point of being a vegetarian, now doesn't it? Unless your one of those idiots who do it to lose a few pounds.
More power to you dude; I have hunted for over 40 years,I raised 3 kids on nothing but wild game meat.Don't let these whining and crying "bunny huggers" intimidate your decision to do things the natural way.It is the order of nature,set down by powers much greater than a bunch of whiney ass cry-babies who wouldn't last a week in fold of mother nature. I personally prefer to bow hunt,just out of sheer enjoyment of spending more time in the woods,since it is your skills against the skills of your quarry.You have to more versed in reading the wild in order to be successful. As far as the "bunny huggers" go;I would love to see the power grid fall on it's face....then these whiney assed cry-babies,would be removed from existence,since they wouldn't be able to survive in the world from which we all came from.So the natural selection of the only the strong survive,would eradicate these pussified light-weights,from the real world. Slam away "bunny huggers",I can handle it,I am a survivor.I will be here caring for mother nature,in the way which she was intended to be cared for,long after your types are gone.So slam me all you want,my beliefs are much older than yours,and based in reality and respect for our planet.Instead of a bunch of wanna-bes,following a moronic philosophy that will eventually bring about their demise.
So you come into the vegetarian section to insult us. I will not argue against meat eaters but when you say you are a vegetarian and hunt I have to point out a hipocrisy in that statement. I'm sorry if your inclined to cause shit by insulting people, but is there not a hipocrisy when somebody is a vegetarian and hunts? Also, I don't insult your way of life don't insult mine.
Lack of respect for us will lead to lack of respect towards you, so I will only say: Stop brainwashing people here who know better that killing animals in order to survive. Oh and about this "my ideas are much older than yours" crap, I will only say, Pythagoras and Plato were vegeterians, and they are only an example, Einstein ( also veggie), pointed out that the best way for evolution of humans is vegerianism. And by the way, Charles Darwin was a vegeterian, too, and said that one of the biggest delusions of the world is thinking we are meant to eat animals because it's natural.
i didnt say i was going to still be a vegitarian, i said i wont eat meat industry products. Its the circle of life. But i dont believe in raising animals for the sole purpose of killing and eating them.
"How about finding a woman, beating her over the head with a rock, dragging her back to your cave and raping her? Don't worry about the ethics - it's just your primitive nature." Which animal does this, by the way? Maybe those are YOUR instincts, but i, on the other hand, am a decent human being.
Look, I understand completely. I think you are wrong and have nothing against pointing that out and I don't hate you for your decision. Its yours. And I agree with you that its better to hunt animals and eat them then to just buy them. One of my heros, Arlo Guthrie, not only bragged about hunting, but hunting illegally. He said, now Im not doing a direct quote, that its more of a crime to eat animals out of the store breed and raised to die for you then to go out in the wilderness and provide meat for yourself.
that is the way i see it...though i still realize it is wrong. I'm at a dilemma =|. "You, however, have not adapted any morality; you're just another brainless, soulless animal, like all the rest." was this meant to sound like a personal attack?
Colours, if I read you correctly, I admire you for thinking this deeply. Most meat-eaters don't even consider these questions. It sounds like 1) You're not ready to go vegetarian, but 2) You don't agree with the meat industry. So, yeah, logically the only thing to do is hunt for your own meat. It really is a dilemma, if you respect animal life (which it sounds like you do). Have you ever hunted anything before?
If you seriously believe that you should really check out the behaviour of dogs around a bitch in heat.
no, i havent. I hit a goose once when i was golfing though... i felt pretty bad actually, seeing as it sort of wobbled around confused, then eventually just toppled into the lake =(. I dont know if i could bring myself to shoot an unsuspecting deer..
Alright, all im saying is just because you secretly desire to beat and take advantage of women, that is not human instinct.
Must we all resort to personal attacks? can't we let people decide for themselves? All we can do is point out how somebody is wrong, when it gets insulting, draw the line.
Many of our woodlands are overpopulated with deer to the extent that they starve in the winter, resorting to eating the bark off trees. This results in dead trees. The tree is held back from re-populating the woodland because we sponsor a deer reserve. Younger generations are less into hunting, so the problem compounds. I've seen nice stands of trees killed by deer who stripped bark. Our woodlands are becoming more savanah like. open & grassy. Please go ahead and help maintain the balance in our woodlands. Deer are far from endangered.
