A Dilemma...

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by Claire, May 15, 2005.

  1. HippyFreek2004

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    but you'd watch if they were just fucking, right?
     
  2. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    Just to interject, maybe this is getting a little too personal for everyone involved, it may be best to stick to the dilemma itself, no point falling out over it:)
     
  3. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    DOGPILE on Peace Phoenix :X :X :p
     
  4. Peace-Phoenix

    Peace-Phoenix Senior Member

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    Hehhehehe, if it's a poofight you want *throws a great big smelly pooball (Kat) at Claire*:p
     
  5. showmet

    showmet olen tomppeli

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  6. QueenOfCarrotFlowers

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    Maybe you should have a talk with her. Most of the time women in the porn industry or adult entertainment field were either sexually abused, molested, or raped as young girls. It really isn't the best way to make a quick buck, since most women just get sucked into it deeper and deeper, which has been known to cause emotional scaring and lifelong problems. Either way it doesn't sound like a good thing to get into. If she wants to do it just because she feels like it would be an experience then right on to that too. Every woman is different, some have sex with hundreds of men, some have sex with only one, it's our choice, and no woman should be called a whore for that.
     
  7. We_All_Shine_On

    We_All_Shine_On Senior Member

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    fuck the porn, just make her own 'scene' with the girl on her own time!
    jj
     
  8. Paul

    Paul Cheap and Cheerful

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    It might go against her in the future if she ever gets recognised.
     
  9. Myranya

    Myranya Slytherin Girl

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    I personally don't think there is anything morally wrong with sex, even sex with loads of people, or even with being a whore. BUT
    1) I'm in a very small minority there, so she'll get a lot of flak if it ever comes out, may get into trouble, and she'll have to be very strong and self-confident to not be talked into feeling dirty and/or guilty herself for doing it, even if she may not feel so now. This isn't just a 'Christian' thing or whatever; most of Western society looks down on porn stars & whores.
    2) there's always the risk of disease, AIDS & other STD's, when having sex with different people, whether you get paid for it or not.
    3) there's a high risk of physical abuse because a lot of the folks aren't exactly nice, are just plain pimps.

    I personally wouldn't touch a job like that with a 10ft pole.
     
  10. DoktorAtomik

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    Firstly, big up to Sal for the most sensible words so far in this thread:

    I think basically you need to make her aware of the risks as far as is possible without alienating her, but if she chooses to continue down that path, you need to support her decision and be there for her in whatever way you can. People make different choices in life, and so long as those choices harm nobody but themselves then there's no point judging them for it.

    Prostitution is not just 'work'. While there may well be a small minority of prostitutes who actually have the luxury of choosing their 'clients' and maybe even enjoying the 'work', the vast majority are forced into prostitution through poverty and circumstance and put their lives and their health on the line every day of the week. That doesn't mean that it should be something to be ashamed of however; just not something that we should regard in the same light as any other line of work.

    (I assume you mean condemn?) Not all of us. I find porn pretty lame. If I need a wank, I'd rather use my imagination. Actually, that's a lie. I'd probably just get Sam to do it for me ;)

    I have to admit, I did kind of assume! I feel dirty now :(

     
  11. jonny2mad

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    It would depend on whether she wanted to have sex with this other women or whether her motivation was just or mainly money, also how much she needed the money.

    If I really needed the money I would get involved in porn.
    I can’t imagine that happening because I would be always able to make better money by dealing in things, I could get a job and failing that there are other forms of crime or near crime that would appeal to me more.
    I don’t think any British citizen in the UK HAS to be involved in either prostitution or porn through need, as you might not be able to buy all the things you like or you may have debts but you won’t starve.
    Most people if they want to can get a job

    the slippery slope is you start doing this scene make some quick money and then get attracted to make more quick money this way .
    There is a massive double standards involved around porn , people do lots of jobs they dislike for the money in many cases spending their whole lives doing them.

    My first job when I left school was working for a arms dealer.
    if you work for lets say a big tobacco company or a pub or a firm that makes parts that fit into a engine that’s fits onto a plane that we sell to china ,and they use that plane to bomb kids, isn’t that as bad or worse than making films that men wank to .

    You have 120,000 people a year dieing of cigarettes 30,000 dieing through alcohol, I’ve never heard of people dieing because they wanked to much watching porn


    So It would depend on how much I got paid, how much time it took, how much I wanted to have sex with the other person .
    If it was someone I wanted to have sex with anyway and I wasn’t worried about being recognised I would do it.
    Being a man I think you don’t get as much of the stigma of being involved in this sort of thing, as women may be more understanding of a partner who was involved in this kind of thing, that may be something to take into account .


    A very rich man is approached by a really beautiful young blonde women working for the conservative party

    Blonde women: would you like to make a contribution to the conservative party

    Rich man: not really but I will give 1 million pounds if you let me fuck you

    Blonde women after thinking for a bit says well for the sake of the party and Britain I will do it

    The rich man then hands the women 50p and says right get your clothes off

    Blonde women really indignant what kind of women do you think I am you said one million pounds

    The rich man we have already decided what kind of women you are all we have to decide now is the price
     
  12. jonny2mad

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    one other thing about porn it would depend on how strong the person is as your likely to be put under pressure to do other stuff or stuff you dont want to

    Its not a business I would advise her to get into personally
     
  13. DoktorAtomik

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    Well I'm not so sure about that. I remember being in a position a number of years ago when I couldn't even afford to pay my bills, let alone buy anything I wanted. Food would've posed a major problem. Fortunately, I was able to get a job before this became a serious issue, but in an area of high unemployment this might not have been an option.

    Of course, the porn industry isn't the only choice for those on the bread line. But choices are often limited by our understanding/perception. While it may not be the only choice, it may be the only apparent choice, which to all intents and purposes amounts to the same thing.

    And by the way - I've seen those movies you star in. The things you do with teddies.... unspeakable!
     
  14. stardust

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    i think jonny has made some really good points there. there are definately worse ways to make money and no-one needs to do a job like this just for the money coz there are always other ways of making money if you're desperate for it.

    so it comes down to choice. she is not being forced into it.

    maybe it would be a good idea to get her to write a list of pros and cons of the idea, then go with whichever outcome has the most pros and least cons. one obvious downside that has already been mentioned is would this affect things (career etc) later on in life if people were to recognise her. and if people did recognise her would it bother her?

    does she even like women? personally if it was me, i wouldnt sleep with a guy no matter how much i was paid. if she's not into women i cant see how much she would be gaining from this experience apart from money.

    is she strong enough to make sure she doesnt get herself dragged down into some seedy underworld that she cant drag herself out of should it all go wrong?

    there are alot of pitfalls to the idea, but i can see the appeal of it aswell. depending on her attitudes towards sex and exibitionism she could find it a very liberating experience, and maybe even a powerful one.

    with the current situation of lots of jobs being available it is not something she is being forced into through circumstance. it is for her to decide whether or not she would enjoy it as that would be the only reason to do it. if it is something she thinks she would enjoy then i see no reason for her not to do it.

    there are lots of issues to be very carefully considered here, but whatever she choses i think the most important thing you can do is just be there for her for advice and support when she needs it.

    peace and love
    stardust
    xxx
     
  15. stardust

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    didnt see docs thread when i started my reply. it may have been the situation a while ago that there wasnt any jobs about, but i've been looking around for work recently and there are so many jobs going you wouldnt believe.

    if things are desperate and theres no work going atall theres always the welfare system. i know its not much but it means that starving is not really an option. i cant see her being forced into this purely through lack of money.

    there are always other options.

    peace and love
    stardust
    xxx
     
  16. Peace-Phoenix

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    There's nothing wrong with bear porn! It's an art form! And it just goes to show, you can be hairy all over and less than two inches in length and still be beautiful....

    Click here for Hardcore Bear Porn!
     
  17. DoktorAtomik

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    Don't believe everything your girlfriend tells you :p
     
  18. Koolaid

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    Well I think she should give it a go....Then send me the video and I can make an informed decision on its artistic side, whether it is degrading, if her rights are being abused and if she is hot...

    Then we can settle this debate once and for all.....

    I mean Claire was quite good in that video she did, so maybe her cousin takes after her...:D
     
  19. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    I have a new one coming out in June :D
     
  20. showmet

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    Doing porn does make her a whore no matter what. I'm not saying she shouldn't do it; women in porn need to be whores, that's why I watch it so much. It also depends how cute she is. I'm really tired of seeing ugly women in porn.
     

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