Dont fear hell

so then, lets go find heaven, since it must be a physical place.

 

The way that I hear Hell explained (outside of churches) is purly the absence of G-d. Not the absence of belief but the fact that you are even physically away from Him.
AKA... Earth is Hell. Even if you have the Holy Spirit in you, God is in Heaven while you are here.

 

Not according to Matthew 18:20

"For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them."

This would mean that Heaven could exist on earth if only for those people gathered in the name of Jesus. It would mean that they were in his presence physically and so, by your logic, in Heaven.

 

Your logic is flawed, while your correct that hell will produce no earthly pain, there may be something far worse than earthly pain that you could never conceive with your earlthy brain. Logic and reasoning here on earth cannot be used to justify such an attitude, heaven and hell are not revealed to us until we depart this place.

 

Dont be so condemming. Colors is a brilliant young man, Im sure (ok not sure I guess) that he will reach the same conclusion as Newton, Galelio and Kopernicus, believers in a supreme God.

 

We will need a whole lot of faith though and a whole bunch of righteous deeds would help us. We dont really know when the plane is leaving, some people seem to leave early, some go to another direction...
Fortunatly we have been given this guide on the trip, acually alot of guids and people who teached these while following them, all of them with the same message. *wink *wink

 

Not to mention Einstein, a supreme god is the logical conclusion one will reach if challenged and educated enough. Colors must first see that since hell isn't a wordly place like he has already illuded to, that must also mean he cannot interprut it in a worldy way as he has done.

 

Agreed.
"One who studies a little science becomes and atheist, one who studies alot of science becomes a believer in God" -Dont remember who said that

 

Thats a great quote, if you don't mind me asking, of what religious affiliation are you?

 

yes, but cannot one also argue, that though there may be no worldly feeling, there may be outerworldy feeling...i most ceritnly believe that there is feeling in those places...

who's to say that there is no "pain" in Hell, or even Heaven. "pain" is a word invented by man to show an idea, im sure Heaven and Hell contain worldy ideas...

 

They may contain wordly ideas, but an idea is just a thought or a concept.

 

yes, but as i mean...its hard to explain with words...

like, although there may be no worldy pain, whos to say that there isnt some way to make souls "feel" in Hell...