Corporate drug testing. What do they actually get out of it? On the one angle people will say it's a PR move. How can it be a pr move? It's not like they advertise it on their products "This product made by drug free employees, we tested them thoroughly". On the other some say it's because they wish to prevent accidents or some such thing. But the numbers don't add up. Surely it cost more to do the tests than the number of accidents actually related to drug use. So this has put a bug up my ass because I had to get tested today in order to get a new job and I'm wondering what the hell they get out of it. Corporations do not pander to anything but making more money. Bottom line is that on a grand scale, drug tests will cost them more money than it would be worth .... unless they get some kind of subsidy or tax break for it. So, now I want to research that and any pointers, direction would be appreciated as well as discussion.
you could email high times and norml and see if they have any information on the subject, who knows you might start a revolution by asking the right questions.
It's all a part of the grand scheme to demonize use of cannabis as much as possible. Most synthetic drugs (the harder stuff - LSD, MDMA, etc.) are out of your system within a couple of days, to the best of my understanding. Cannabis, however, lingers in the fat cells of users for up to a month or so, depending on a few factors (frequency and quantity of consumption in particular). Therefore drug tests are really only a deterrent to herb consumers. It's a bit ridiculous to make scapegoats of smot pokers when one considers the greater harm potential of not only the harder synthetic drugs but that of alcohol, cigarettes, aspirin, a lead foot, talking on a cell while driving, etc. I will not apply for a job where I am made to pee in a cup, nor will I submit to any other form of drug testing. That might make it harder for me to earn my millions, but it's a principle I feel I shouldn't have to compromise.
Yeah, well they didn't tell me when I put in the resume, and I should be alright anyway because it's been a little bit. I did notice though that the paperwork only says that one has to take the test, it says nowhere that one has to actually pass it. I wonder if a swift lawyer could use that to their advantage. Hey, I agreed to the contract, it says to take a urine test. I did.
its because the world we live in suddenly invented Occupational Health and Safety regulations, and expectations, and nowadays if you dont have that, no one will do business wiht you all because americans piece of shit culture of sueing everyone which is slowly spreading everywhere
The reason for corporate drug testing is because they get better prices for insurance. Interestingly, the government jobs don't drug test - why? because they are the government, they already get the price breaks!
btw, if you fail the medical lab that did the test has to call you and tell you before they tell the company. they also must ask if you dispute. YES, you dispute! raise HELL! Someone at the lab must have fucked up because you DO NOT smoke. they'll give you another test a week later and hopefully by that time you'll pass....
You bet your ass government jobs drop UA and usually use gc/ms on top of the Emit. They are also more prone to random drops.
quote: They are also more prone to random drops. A lot of times this is included in the contract in case something suspicious happens so they will have the right to do a drug test. A friend of mine is a fireman and thought he was going to get random tests, its been 5 years and he has never gotten one. Same thing happend when I was working for a company that contracted from the federal government.
A friend just interviewed for a job at the Dept. of Health and the EPA and neither one tested. My mother works for the post office and she's never been tested either. Every single company I've interviewed with drug tests, however.
Well here's the thing I got from NORML: Hello, I suggest you try the following: 1) Small Business Adminstration (gives grants for drug testing) 2) www. datia. org (they should have referral info) 3) www. nida. gov and www. samhsa. gov(they may have referral info) 4) US Chamber of Commerce (supported the legislation as they love drug testing). .... and the answer is yes, subsidies are handed out, and yes insurance gives breaks, and there's tax breaks.
Well I just lost the job that I just got. They put me to work before the results came back and guess what? The challenging of it will result in a hair follicle test. eeegads, nope, no way. Well it was fun being back in normal society for a few days. Man, and they were even gonna give me my own cubicle
Dude that fucking blows, If I were you i'd throw the biggest seen any of those managers have ever fucking seen. yell and scream till you get violently escorted from the premesis, then start the phone calls.
Yeah, I was going to but get this, good karma I guess; got a different job the same week I got canned from that one, and this one pays more and is alot more relaxed. Thank the ganja I guess
The reason is companies who manufacture drug tests hand out information full of half-truths, and some plain lies. Of course, they generalize all drugs as having the same danger, and make claims like "drug use lowers an employees quality of work and inhibits their efficiency in general". Again, notice the lumping of all drugs into one. They know the truth about marijuana (which is mostly what these tests look for), and they don't want their customers to know that truth. If they did, they wouldn't waste so much money on drug testing, and test manufacturers would go bankrupt.
Yeah, I dug in a little more and turns out that various drug testing companies in this state are actually subsidized by taxpayers money. On the turnaround the company gets a health insurance break (even though they didn't offer a package to begin with) for doing drug tests. My guess is the average employee isn't getting the health insurance break but the bigwigs are. And as it happens they can claim the tests on taxes. Doesn't that just bite big hairy nutz? These motherfuckers are running around spending my tax money to keep me from getting a job and then claiming it on their own taxes and getting health insurance breaks for it.
Yep, like I said back on page 1 It's bullshit, isn't it? Sorry to hear about your failed test, but it sounds like you did well in the end.
anybody heard of the legislation being introduced against the "anti-drug testing" industry? jesus, don't these guys have better things to do? it's so bogus! it'll be probably be easy to get around, and it may cause a hassle for people who don't even do drugs who just want to detox. what a fucking waste! yeah, i love how employers state drug use lowers efficiency, yet they encourage all their happy drones to drink lots of coffee...
Any private employer who receives federal government contracts is REQUIRED to conduct drug tests of employees under a piece of Reagan-era legislation called the "Drug-Free Workplace Act". Many states adopted this type of legislation, as well.