Ive just been having this exact conversation with my best mate actually. How bizarre to drop by the forums then and find this thread. Vaguely watching the world cup and we were saying how for example, tony blair is paid x amount of money to run the country, and whether he does it well or badly its still a hell of a big job. Then you have a footballer, who kicks a ball about a field and earns 10 times that much. Then there is Wayne Rooney and his fiance Colleen. Colleen who? A regular scally couple, and one has talent and becomes super rich. Suddenly his regular scally girlfriend is given a column in a newspaper. Why? Because she's talented? Because she's worked for ages to become a journalist? No! Because she's Wayne Rooney's girlfriend. Then of course there is the subject of this thread. Abi Titmuss. Who was just a normal nurse, like any other normal nurse in the country, only she happened to date John Lesley. And so people knew her name. Then out come her tits. Well she's blonde and theyre big....so in rakes the money. Then just like Jordan, she suddenly wants to turn over a new leaf and be seen as something better than the glamour model stroke porn girl. Surely to earn money you should have worked hard for it. What is with society today. Its like my other issue with the football is....for example, wayne rooney, scouser, playing for manchester. Why? Because he was offered loads of dosh to do it. What happened to the days when liverpool players played for liverpool, manunians played for manchester, bolton lads played for bolton. Half these teams arent even British, let alone local to the teams home ground and training area. I appreciate if youre a talented player and you live in a shithole then you wouldnt get anywhere, but when we trained north wales training in gymnastics, we trained in Liverpool as the nearest place with good facilities, but we didnt then compete for liverpools club! Some girls were talking on the bus about eurovision yesterday. And some old guy commented that he remembered when they usedta sing in their own language, write and sing/play their own songs/music and how now everyone is just copying everyone else. The world is a big place. Why generalise everything. The euro for example has made a single currency for europe which in one way you could say stabalises the european economy as a whole, and the european union represents europe as a continent or whatever. But each of the countries represented has their own culture, their own reasons to visit that place, but if everything becomes uniform, then where are we gonna be in the future. We are losing our culture in the name of capitalism. Achieving fame for fames sake, rather than because it is deserved. Television - celebrity love island. Not watched it but heard how appalling it is. Ex celebs trying to get some money and rediscover fame. If they were talented enough or made use of opportuinities and worked hard for it, theyd get it without lowering themselves down to the levels of reality television and bad reality tv at that. Our tv screens are full of no hopers trying to get famous these days, where are the creative screen and play writes producing good sitcoms and dramas....where is the good television. It used to exist. Look back to programmes like only fools and horses, a good life etc.......as people we are sacrificing our culture and intelligence by supporting this new wave of untalentedness to exist and that is where money is going. If that money was spent on theatre, community classes and art galleries, we could regain some of the culture we are rapidly losing. Where will we be in 50 years time? 100 years time? What are we giving to our children?
Who are the people we pay the most? non of this "she/he has spotted a niche to get loads of money from people who are stupid enough to follow them....." I talk of our society. There is no unstoppable pot of money, we have between us all a certain amount of it, and between us we decide on where to spend it. So, who are the top earners? And who are the most important people? I don't mean important as self importance and weath, I mean important to our society. People who if they stopped doing what they do our daily lives would quickly grind to a halt. Paople who really grease the wheels of society. Nurses? Sooooooo very important, we pay them little. What about refuse collectors? Bin men if you want the old rather gender-presumtious name..... how quickly would we live in a shit tip without them? How quickly would disease epidemics start spreading? they do a fantastic job. What about the people who keep the sewers flowing? Fuckin vital job, we would only go on for a few days without our sewers! Carers? Even more lowly than nurses in the pay scale, but what an absolutely vital job. Not a general rule but why do we so often treat the biggest useless leaches with reverance and the ones we really rely on with disrespect? For the future of our society we should realise that teachers are the future moulding guru's. Who are the most important people? Gotta be mothers I say! Or, if I wanna be less patriarcal, parents. But mothers are our primary socialisers in this society. They do the single most vital job. And what do we do? we demonise them! critisise their every move! They can't do right for doing wrong. They get it if they don't work, get it if they do. They get it for having kids too young, for having them too old. For their parenting methods. For everything. And what happens if the bloke and his non-thinking prick led conscience ruins a family .... we blame the MOTHER! Or the other woman! or both! In the meantime we pay abbi titmous a fortune for not nursing and not being a mother and love her for her ability to selfishly collect loads of our dosh and sit on it. Yeah she has fabulous tits, so fuckin what?
Yeah. My mum is an A & E consultant. My best friend was telling me yesterday how she'd been at my mums house once when I was home and my mam was telling her how she hadta write this thing to *justify her salary*. My friend turned round and said - you save lives on a daily basis and get paid peanuts compared to our countries footballers....surely thats a good enough justification. We were trying to justify a footballers salary, i mean they train hard right? But doctors....they do their training in one go, through alot of hard work. They dont then get a weeks training every week or 2 with just one day where they save lives, like one football game, they save lives every single day, footballers dont play big games every day. Its a public funded industry, it relies on us the british public to pay ridiculous amounts of money for game tickets etc among other things Im sure. Where is the money we pay to doctors and hospitals? In tax form that we grumble about.
I was going to start a thread about her titled Abi:' i would' and ask people to ponder the impact she has had on the female psyche and how she is a 'champion' for discussing sex openly and uninhibited..then i took a look over some of the threads in this forum and thought.. fuck it. This woman is no 'icon' or whatever the hell that 'documentary' was trying to put here across as.... A whole programme diconstructing a woman that likes a bit (well a lot) of sex with males and females..so what. Basicaly i think she is just another prety face/tits and arse with a 'sex' story to keep men like myself titulated for a while.. and we are. For those losing vital sleep wondering who she is http://www.beerandshots.com/celebrities/abi-titmus-sex-tape/abi-titmus-sex-tape.php
Jokes aside, she is pretty, intelligent and does work for her money... There's a lot worse people around than Abi Titmus. Celebrities like her do niggle me, and if I'm in the mood I've had the odd rant about them... But it's quite easy to just not buy the mags / watch the programs etc if it's not your cup of tea I guess
The title of this thread makes me wonder how much horsemeat you can fit in a jam jar. And if you really packed it in tight you would probably turn it to the consistancy of jam so would that count? At what point of compression does a substance go from meat to a jam like sludge?
this may not be so true.. all the teachers that i met while my ex was doing her teacher training in reading loved to read heat and ok and all those ridiculous magazines.. i dont want those to be the guru's for my children.. " and this week in business studies we'll be following jordans strategic business plan.."
Unfortuantly, shes famous cause theres so many people in the UK these days that acutally watch the kindda shite shes in. 'Celeberity' Love Island anybody? The only 2 people on that show i've heard of (the only reason ive seen it is cause i live in student halls, and the chavette in our flat throws a wobbly if we don't yet her watch it) is her and Rebecca fucking Loos. I mean whats she famous for? she claims she shagged David Backham, thats hardly fame worthy, yet shes all over the media these days
Is the amount of value she would give to society as a nurse equal to, less than or more than the amount of value she gives to society as a topless model? How would you make such a judgement?
i had no idea who she was until i heard some people slagging this girl titmuss (sp?) off on a radio programme....well, i dont really know who she is and what she's "famous" for when i hear people talking about big brother, or celebrity island whatever hells kitchen etc etc i feel so happy i got rid of my tv, seriously guys, how much shit is there on tv nowadays? I dont consider entertaining watching people locked in a house or being told off by a grumpy chef, i mean, whats the point? what do people get from this kind of shows? anyway, each to their own i guess....
What an interesting question. As a nurse she could help a relatively small number of people, but she could make quite a large impact on their lives. As a topless model, she can enrich the the lives of many millions, but only in a very small way. Which of the two produces more overall happiness in our society?
I will answer you, it is getting a bit tragic you responding to yourself jon. She is not a 'topless model' she is a newspaper celebrity, Jordan is a 'topless model' . I would say whatever makes her happy is more important.
Abi may take her clothes and wear barely nothing (i think she cover her nipples in pictures ?) ..Anyway that sells magazines/newspapers and generates a income (for her) as 'sex sells'. That only came about out, out of her notoriety in a certain 'sex video'. Jordan is a 'model' that gets into newspapers because she makes a arse of herself (generaly on purpose) to boost he career as a 'model'. Page 3 is topless modelling (obviously) were jordan emerged from.
