why dont rainbows

Discussion in 'Rainbow Family' started by dmt hyperspace, May 22, 2005.

  1. dmt hyperspace

    dmt hyperspace Member

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    How come rainbows dont just live in the woods grow thier own food ect.Like a real modern day tribe its not that hard.It would be like a many huge commune's spread across the planet connected.Only rainbows dont sign permits or own land :rolleyes:.Right a tribe would learn to adapt if it wants to survive.The thousands of gallons used to go to the national will do more harm than signing a permit or buying land and organizing everything a bit better.

    You guys are not even close to being free from bablyon most of you still depend on it.So why have all these silly little rules does it really matter?We cannot escape them might as well accept it. By doing that you would be more free than you are now.Right now your a bunch of people playing pretend.While its great and you meet great people its not what you say it is.Thats why i dont go to gatherings anymore the whole thing seems a bit fake to me IMHO. I know this isnt all what rainbow is about,but its a pretty big part of it.

    Im not trolling i really want to know what you think.
     
  2. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    i think there is no way to be free of babylon not even at a gathering...i also feel that it is impossible(at least in europe or the united states) for a nomadic tribe to be self sustaining whithout dealing in some shape form or fashion with babylon..

    so my anwer to your initial quaestion is,,

    cause it cant be done..

    Luv~N~Lite.
    hilly dilli an clan..
     
  3. hippiestead

    hippiestead Ms.Cinnamon

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    Why do you think that all Rainbows want to live in the woods? It seems that you've missed the big point that Rainbow means different things to different folks.
    For us, being Rainbow is about being kind and spreading the kindness around. If we refused to function within Babylon, then we wouldn't have the chance to help kindness grow...
     
  4. yodabandito

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    I think the main thing that people have to remember is that Babylon is too big to run from, I mean really, where could you actually go in this country to be away from it? And once you find that place, how long b4 "they" come and find you....drag you back in by using words like "cult"....."terrorist"....etc; You have to work with them (babylon), at least enough so that they leave you alone.
     
  5. dmt hyperspace

    dmt hyperspace Member

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    So then paris hilton is a rainbow? come on there is a common thread that defines a rainbow what is it. i know what your saying i said that in my last sentance.
     
  6. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    a belly button... not a thread but thats all it takes,,, damn im really late for work...
     
  7. superwoman

    superwoman Member

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    well I would add that rainbow people are nomades, so establishing in a place in order to grow their own things would be contradictory. You would recreate another kind of Babylon system of property : this exists already in the south of Spain, in a place called Beneficio near Orgiva in Andalusia. The land has been bought formely to welcome any rainbow people passing by, but some have settled now and grow their own products, make bread ... and claim now they own most part of the land and don't want to see other people coming ! So they're not anymore rainbow ...
     
  8. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    rainbows aint all nomads,, so much of what gos into a national is put forth by people who work most everyday of there lives,..

    So the doctors and nurses that run calm are nomads? The people who set up kitchens and feed the masses have no jobs?,,.

    The nomadic aspect of"the rainbow family" is at best half,, but id say a minority of it..
    Out of the couple hundred rainbow i know on a personall level,who regularly attend regionals,solstice gatherings, nationals etc..
    probably less than 5% are truly region 16 types..

    I dont get how folks who aint done the rainbow thing or have done a couple gatherings automatically assume its about bein nomadic..

    Bein rainbow is a state of mind that can only be achieved thru enlightenment on what its all about..

    Luv~N~Lite...
     
  9. raven23

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    If your life is devoid of play, then I offer my condolences. You should try playing pretend every so often. It'll take your mind off this whole 'reality' trip, worrying about 'the way things really are'.
    Rainbow is much deeper than surface examination will reveal. For me someting is definitely being built. The connections I have to people I've met at gatherings are the strongest I've ever felt. There's something too that that not even a gathering, not even all our 'customs' and so forth and camping in the woods and blah blah drumming blah blah, can ever begin to explain...
     
  10. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    No, definately, all rainbows are not nomadic. And some of us DO live in the woods and grow our own. Some of us "own" their land. Some even have jobs!!! You work with what you have. If you have more than the next guy, you share. If you have better karma than the next guy, you try to help him overcome some of his bad karma. THAT'S Rainbow. I always liked Rainbow because it seemed like we were trying to say, "hey, we can live outside the system without any problems just fine, thank you very much." But there are SO MANY FOLKS who think it's just a big party where they can do whatever they like regardless of what anyone thinks, and they just bring all their crap with them. They don't leave Babylon behind when they come, they just put on their "Rainbow Costumes", and bring all their same old self serving sh-t along. All this proves is that we CAN'T live outside the system just fine. I know it's all about bellybuttons and coming home, and such, but I'm not sure I would like to invite people like Hitler or Charles Manson, or George Bush into my home. (well, maybe George, I'd like to terrorize him by giving him way too many organic sacraments, take away his bic shaver, dress him up in a Rainbow costume, and make him eat out of dumpsters...) If you let too much go by just because you want to be all about loving and accepting everyone, then you end up with not Rainbow, but just a giant refugee camp for the homeless, with all the same type of problems. If we're gonna let EVERYONE be Rainbow, then we also must accept and work harmoniously with the Forest Service, The police, The government.... So, what Rainbow should REALLY be about is teaching others what Rainbow is all about, so that the folks who come in their Rainbow Costumes (and those who don't) can actually have a chance to experience more than just their own reality.
     
  11. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    P.S.
    In one word? Openmindedness. Loving kindness. Hardworking caretakers of the earth and each other. Nuts, that's more than one word.
     
  12. raven23

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    earthmother, I'm digging your take on it.
    There's a lot of debate about the legitimacy about the so-called Rainbow prophecies, but if you were to hold these words as a guidepost for what rainbow is, it mentions more about living what's right and teaching others how to heal the earth (we being part of the earth like everything else, our own health is included in that) and standing up for a better world. I have yet been able to interpret any of the prophecies that said "and when the earth is dying a tribe of people from all race, religion and creed will gather for a good time where anything goes, where everyone is included, and they will just chill, so just chill and let it happen"
     
  13. raven23

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    And so I dont say that these prophecies are what rainbow is about, but it's the kind of rainbow i want to be.

    The woods are an important rainbow icon because that's our 'home', the closest that some of us have to church. Even those of us who live in Babylon (I live in mellow oregon Babylon, but it's still Babylon. I spent three hours yesterday in a county jail cell waiting for them to search their database to see if I had any warrants because I got pulled over without my wallet on me. Oops) Anyway, even those of us who still live in Babylon have a deep connection to our vested interest in our home, to the wilderness in general. (My 'homes' include deserts and prairies, not just woods, but it gets used as a catch-all word) Back-to-the land and primitivist elements exist in rainbow, but we are diverse. And eclectic. I am settled in Babylon now, but I am off and on Nomad bush hippie.
     
  14. dmt hyperspace

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    I do get caught up in the surface of things and i also got a bit side tracked in my original post ok well i got really side tracked:p. my original thought that led me to this was why you dont sign permits and i dont even know what the benefit would be to sign them. but things like this bother me there is no point in not signing them we all seem to agree there is no reasonable escape from babylon in rainbow gatherings today. maybe there was when rainbows started or if you move to the middle of nowhere. so whats the point? Even mother Gaia has rules and the whole thing about not wanting to be like babylon and not having too many rules or bounderies is wishfull thinking or like a teenage kid rebeling against his parents.thats what seems fake to me but that doesnt mean there are no great people, expiriences ect

    so i guess what im saying is. If it is what it is stop trying to make it something its not,evolve, grow up rainbow;).
     
  15. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    Oh Man This Has Got Dolphin Camp Barry Sakoshitz Wrote All Over It Now...
     
  16. hippiestead

    hippiestead Ms.Cinnamon

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    A whole can of worms here, folks; fact is, Rainbow has no actual definition. Rainbow Gatherings (as they have come to be known) have traditions, but no actual 'rules', which is not to say that all behaviors are acceptable; the revolving factor is kindness.

    And yes Paris Hilton could be a Rainbow, even invited her & Nicole Ritchie to the hippiestead to film Road Trip; those girls would have left our place with a totally different perspective (and Nicole has enormous Rainbow potential, that's why Paris is replacing her ;) ). Unfortunately, the casting director was a hippie-raised child who was rebelling by becoming a yuppie; and seeing us, she made confessions to a co-worker that she probaly regretted later! Such as Life :)

    And to address the issue of working with the FS; when their federal regulations recognize that the Rainbow Family is a non-organization made up of individuals and has no leaders, we might be willing to work with them (speaking only on the behalf of the hippiestead folks, no one person speaks on behalf of the Rainbow Family)

    Lastly, land being offered to the Rainbow Family. This has been done before, Wavy Gravy gave the Family some land in the NE; a place called 'Peace Park'. The problem was that folks with substance abuse problems settled there while many folks who help folks heal from abuse problems already have lives away from the Gatherings.
     
  17. dmt hyperspace

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    Lol well i guess anyone could be a rainbow i just thought of the most materialstic person i know of.But i dont think it would help paris that she comes from a well known illuminati bloodline.I dont know about the other one but she probably is too
     
  18. raven23

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    Please let's not talk permit over here, ever, please. It's been debated from a million angles on AGR, please follow links in the Rainbow basics thread if you have any curiousity regarding this issue.
     
  19. raven23

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    Freedom is real, the emancipation of the mind is an illusion. Follow that path and not one into defeatism. Why should only teenagers rebel against the lies and illusions? What's wrong with standing up for what we believe in?
     
  20. raven23

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    we're being teased here, aren't we? if i were paranoid i'd whisper 'agitator'. but no one cares that much about little old rainbow to try to sow discord, do they?
     

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