The best religion is NO religion

I wonder if it's possible for an open mind and a closed mind to communicate with each other (?)

 

they could communicate but they couldnt connect

 

did i just blow your mind, or what?

 

No, it was already blown.

It's seems like a paradox: If someone is open minded about Christianity and trying to learn about it from a closed minded christian what is he going to learn except that some christians are closed minded?

 

yeah,.... thanks for the replies, TrippinBTM & NaykidApe..... totally agree.

it seems that once i feel myself becoming angry or resentful, and i recognize it, i need to also realize that i'm failing as far as self-composure goes, and for that i should be embarrassed and check myself.

"wrath kills the foolish man" job 5:2, right?

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and as far as an open mind and a closed mind communicating goes.....
agree with you colours, communicate but not connect.
but further, can any two minds even really connect? what does that even mean?

 

well, a christian is bound to God through fear; they may hear logic and rationality and stray a little bit to consider the non-existence, or the inessentiality of the Faith....

but then, they remember that Satan causes straying thoughts JUST LIKE THESE ONES, so holy crap, better get back on track.

for a long time after i had abandoned Christianity, i still felt the odd pang of fear when i considered that i could have been led away by Satan's trickery, and had to re-assess my perspective. crazy..... the fear of thinking, i tell ya.

 

Hah! Me too. Which is exactly why I've started researching the whole issue; some part of my subconscious still worrys that I'm going to hell for not kneeling in church and reciting the incantations I was bombarded with as a kid, or for walking away from the crazy people who stand on the street corner screaming about damnation.

 

lol......

fear is a powerful thing.

those streetcorner crazies amaze me though; i always wonder where they live... it seems like they just come out of nowhere every morning at the crack of dawn, then retreat to never-neverland at sunset. i imagine them in their mystery huts in the forest, cutting up cardboard boxes for the next day's "the end is near!!!" sign.

 

Yeah. when I say crazies though I mean it to include the church people who stand out there and hand out chic comiic books and get pissed if you ask them a question they can't answer.

hypothetical exp: "So you're saying that I have to use the name "Jesus" when I pray or God can't hear me, right?"
Them: Yes *quotes John or Paul "There's is one name whereby we are saved"*
"So God only speaks Greek?"
"What"?
" 'Jesus' is greek for the Hebrew name "Joshua" (or Yoshua) why can't we call him that, seeing that it's a good possiblity that that's what he called himself, seeing that he was Hebrew"
"well I suppose that would be OK...."
"And how come Matthew 7:20 says, "Not everyone who says to me 'Lord, Lord' in those days will be saved', but Acts says "As many as called upon the name of the Lord will be saved?"....

I once asked a christian why his church used the King James version and he got really pissed and started raising his voice, "Don't you see the good works we're doing? Don't you see the lives we're changing?"
what the hell did that have to do with my question?

 

Anyway if any christian trys to tell you reason and logic are tools of the devil you can throw this at him:



Isaiah 1:18
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool


this passage also has God offerring total remission of sins without, you'll notice, any mention of Jesus.

 

i dont care if I'm lazy but im gonna say Discordianism without looking to see if it's already been mentioned.

Discordianism or the Scientific Method? i like the scientific method cause it'll always adapt when faced with new information... kinda like life

 

Discordianism has been described as both an elaborate joke disguised as a religion and a religion disguised as an elaborate joke. Some of its followers make the claim that it is "a religion disguised as a joke disguised as a religion." It can be viewed as a simple rejection of reductionism and dualism, even falsifiability — not in concept different from postmodernism or certain trends in the philosophy of mathematics. It has also been described as "Zen for roundeyes"

...Although most religions revere the principles of harmony and order in the Universe, Discordianism can be interpreted as a recognition that disharmony and chaos are equally valid aspects of reality.

^ cause I'm lazier than whoever wrote wikipedia.org^

 

hah! Halfway through your first sentence I was thinking "Zen Buddhism" (the only religion with a sense of humour).

 

This is, as you probably know, upheld by the laws of physics (the Second Law of Thermodynamics, to be precise). Only buy what you need. All Hail Eris!!

I try to keep in mind that the Christian faith works through completely unexplainable means (i.e. magic) - it's a universe which shouldn't logically work, based on our observations. For instance, imagine the day of judgement... All people are ressurrected. That's everyone who ever lived, regardless of their original faith, good or evil, whatever. Now where are we going to fit so many people? And what about animals? Don't they get a fair shake, here? We know dolphins are quite intelligent, many species of whales have demostrated a complexity of language which we are only beging to grasp. My cats have personalities, feelings, and behavior patterns which make it obvious to me that despite the fact that they are far less intelligent, they still think. Do they get ignored in the final days?

The fundamentlist view of Christianity has no answers for these things - but their faith keeps them rigidly adhered to the dogma they have been taught... such questions are the result of Satan's interference. Thought is the tool of Satan?

I know that many Christians (probably the vast majority) do truely good works through the organized efforts of their church. I respect that. If it were only that, I would join a Christian church, despite the fact that I'm not Christian, just to have the aid of such a well organized operation in doing good works. BUt why does it have to come with that huge dose of judgement on the side, why must I have dogma forced down my throat every time I enter the building? Why do they try to make me feel guilty for thinking? Forget it, it simply isn't worth it. I'd rather struggle on to do good things with my life without the aid of the organization... sure it's less efficient, but at least I'm not being psycholgically tortured at the same time.

 

i think that if we conform to organized religion we are all doomed. i dont belive in religion, i believe in right and wrong.

 

As time goes by, I've started to see the gap close between "anti-religion" and Christian right. You're really not all that different.

You all claim to want to set people free- the Christians from sin, and the anti-religous people from being bound to the bible or something. But freedom to me means being able to think for myself and decide what's right for me, and neither group wants that. You want me to think like you, not think like me.

What if I read the bible, and thought thru it to my self and truely believed it made sense to me, that I did belong a Christian? Or a Muslim? Or a Jew? What if I truely thought it thru and decided that that was the right path for me? Well, I'd still be doing something wrong, because I still decided to be part of something you don't like.

You're really not all that different at all.

 

In my opinion the best religion is the worshipping of the genitalia of the opposite sex. Christ knows I sure do love it when someone worships my cock and balls!

 

Religion is bullshit ...................(IMO).

But, some people enjoy being sheep. And that's OK. It's their choice.

 

yes, I can see where no religion would be good ...

 

but sometimes it helps people to get through