greatest songwriter?

Discussion in 'Music' started by timeoutofmind, May 28, 2005.

  1. K-Train

    K-Train Member

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    Wow, no one's mentioned Neil yet. Good thing I got here in time.
    Neil Young is obviously one of the best songwriters of all time, as well as best musician of all time. He's right up there with Dylan.
     
  2. gurney

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    dylan,lennon,robert johnson,woody guthrie,neil young,joe strummer and so many more
     
  3. TheMadcapSyd

    TheMadcapSyd Titanic's captain, yo!

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    Roger Waters
     
  4. TheLizardQueen

    TheLizardQueen horny for knowledge

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    haha i'll jump on the dylan bandwagon as well. he kicks ass.

    I also like:

    Lennon/McCartney (as a team)
    George Harrison
    Buddy Holly
    Joni Mitchell
    Richards/Jagger
    Joan Baez
     
  5. tpgi

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    I'm sorry but Dylan is just head and shoulders better than everyone else. Theres dylan and then theres everyone else, its gonna b like that for a long time. I would say the most under rated songwriter of all time is brad nowell from sublime
     
  6. lover/young_peace

    lover/young_peace Senior Member

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  7. Viking

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    wtf no one has mentioned Avril Lavigne yet
    you guys obviously know nothing about songwriting
     
  8. timeoutofmind

    timeoutofmind So Many Roads...

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    i love neil too, thank god hes alright after his brain aneurism.
     
  9. whiskeymysticsman

    whiskeymysticsman Member

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    does she even write her own songs? either way they suck
     
  10. Mui

    Mui Senior Member

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    Bach
     
  11. BlackDog

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    Guess who I am going for...
     
  12. BlackDog

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    Jeff Magnum too!
     
  13. maryjaneguitargurl

    maryjaneguitargurl I am just like you.

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    Micheal Stipe has interesting lyrics and hmm john lennon and i have to say GEORGE HARRISON for writing while my guitar gently weeps.. I just love that song..

    peace
    chickens
     
  14. Floyd Soul

    Floyd Soul The Walkin' Dude

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    Neil Young and Bob Dylan. Although I prefer Neil's music (it's more varied), for me it's a toss up between the two.
     
  15. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    how bout some lesser known geniuses?
    I recently bought Ellis Paul's newest, American Jukebox Fables, and song 2, Kiss the sun, has grabbed me.

    Kiss The Sun (A Song for Pat Tillman)

    When I was nineteen,
    I joined up with the reserves
    And I fought on weekends
    paid my college tuition
    But out in the killing fields,
    you come to question all you learn
    is peace the truth
    a universal truth
    or some man made superstition

    (chorus)
    I dreamt I ran through Kansas wheatfields
    slept in the shadows,
    where the Rockies kiss the sun, they kiss the sun
    I dreamt I could hear freedom’s sweep
    in Martin Luther King’s speeches (Lenny Bruce, Woody Guthrie)
    Wasn’t he reaching for the promise of America?

    I heard Pat Tillman died
    in the hills of Afghanistan
    He came for justice
    not for greed, not for ego
    His truth came through the fog
    like the hometeam’s marching band
    Are you a warrior, or a savior,
    or the great American hero?
    (chorus-lenny bruce)

    My wife, she’s writing
    the war’s on CNN
    “It looks pretty bad from here…”
    “You should see it from my end –”
    I’m just a sentinel
    Just a sentinel
    Fighting an oilman’s war
    And I need to know, I need to know
    Is that what Pat Tillman died for?
    (chorus- woody)

    now that's a statement.
    and from Speed of Trees (now only a writer would use that title)
    The Ballad of Chris McCandless
    from The Speed of Trees

    We met on the highway.
    He was smilin’,
    A mystic in torn blue jeans.
    The kid left his trust fund to come out walking.
    He said, “I’m Alexander, Supertramp,
    A Star catcher, a Chaser of dreams…”
    I could’ve sworn he heard the earth a’talkin’,
    talkin’…

    “Sometimes,” he said, “don’t it feel
    like the concrete’s closing in?
    We’re putting bricks on the horizon…”
    Was he chasing fool’s gold,
    Or a holy man walking
    a dirt road till the end?
    I don’t know but
    I hitched a ride with Chris McCandless.
    I stepped in the wild of a dream.

    The horizon in South Dakota
    was an ocean of harvest grain.
    In a dusty silo we found work for the taking.
    We’d hitched up from California,
    But he never told me his real name.
    Never told me what past he was out here shaking.
    We’re all shaking something.

    “Sometimes,” he said, “don’t it feel
    like technology’s closing in?
    We’re raising towers on the horizon…”
    Was he chasing fool’s gold
    Or a holy man walking
    A dirt road till the end?
    I hitched a ride with Chris McCandless
    I stepped in the wild of a dream—

    a stone,
    a path,
    a river of glass,

    The night sky—
    Hey, can you see stars
    From wherever you are?

    With both feet on the planet
    Can you feel this old world
    Spinning around you?
    The pull of the magnet
    Is gonna take you from your town,
    Your home town.

    In a broken school bus they found him
    In the heart of the Alaska range
    The journey ends
    When the heart stops beating—
    Our time is so fleeting

    Sometimes, don’t it feel
    like the concrete’s closing in—
    like we’re putting bricks on the horizon?
    Are you chasin fool’s gold,
    Or a holy man walking a dirt road
    till the end?
    I don’t know, but
    I hitched a ride with Chris McCandless,
    I stepped in the wild with Chris McCandless,
    And I felt alive with Chris McCandless.
    I was wide awake in the dream,
    the dream,
    the dream.

    and from Translucent Soul:
    Translucent Soul
    from Translucent Soul

    I get a call from Vance he's an old friend
    He's got some you-won't-believe-story to share
    He's the place that I go when I need someone who knows me
    He brings the smile of a billionaire

    And I laugh when he pretends he's a white guy
    'Cause he knows how bad I fail playing black
    He says, "If even you could, I don't advise that you should
    'Cause once you go there you might not want to turn back"


    (chorus)
    There isn't a thing
    in this God-all-mighty world that I wouldn't do
    to help him outta trouble
    Seein' as how we're friends and
    that goes deeper than skin can go
    to a translucent soul
    Deeper than color will show
    translucent soul


    He says, "Now, you and I, I know we look a little different,
    but, I was raised middle class, same as you.
    But, let's make it clear even on the way here,
    I had to watch for blue lights in the rear view "
    He says, "Last week, I was visiting L.A.,
    walking the streets where the riots went down.
    You got black killing black killing black killing black,
    while all the whites were sweating bullets across town"


    (chorus)


    He says, "In L.A., they're whispering race war,
    like it's something that has yet to begin
    like they can plug up the cracks
    in four hundred years of history
    and prove that the melting pot's not broken"
    He says, "In the event of some unlikely disaster,
    we find ourselves armed, and face to face "
    I said, "I'd turn around, I would protect your ground"
    He said, "I'd do the same thing for you at your place"


    (chorus)


    There isn't a thing
    in this God-all-mighty world that he wouldn't do
    to help me outta trouble . . .

    Embrace what you have in common,
    celebrate what sets you apart
    It takes more than the color
    that you find on a palate
    to turn humanity into an art
    into the form of an art
    translucent soul
    translucent soul
    soul


    © Ellis Paul Music (SESAC) 1998

    I have a short interview with him from my college days on my site:
    http://www.angelfire.com/music/hooperchick/ellis.html
     
  16. John221

    John221 Senior Member

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    Too right. But there are lots of other great songwritters too.
     

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