"jesus" The Mark of 'christianity!

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Francisco, May 21, 2005.

  1. SpliffVortex

    SpliffVortex Senior Member

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    and then a space ship landed.
     
  2. Art Delfo

    Art Delfo It is dark

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    You should call god Jehovah.How would you like it if people said "Hi guy how are you doing guy?" to you insed of calling you by your name?Then again you can also call him Father because he is the Father but that is a title like god or lord.
     
  3. Francisco

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    "set your affections on things above", for "here we have no
    continuing city but we seek one above", and we do not desire
    to be of those "whose god is their bellies because they have
    an earth bound mind". but we desire "the mind of The Messiah",
    He Who gave His up His Life, that we might "see" Life.......

    for those that have not "seen" The Way to The Truth of The Life?

    while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
    http://ASpiritualJourney.Org
     
  4. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    no i should not call The Only True GOD, "jehovah".

    sorry, there was no letter "J" in the english alphabet until
    500, or so, years ago. "jehovah" is primarily a creation of
    "jehovah witnesses" and her sister "christianity" and their
    mother "catholicism". a transliteration of the hebrew, into
    the greek and then into modern day english.

    The Messiah and the apostles never called
    Our Father, "jehovah".......period.......

    Our Father! yes HE is! more than a title, The Truth!

    "The Only True GOD, Father of ALL".......period.......

    peace, even as war rages....... francisco
    http://ASpiritualJourney.Org
     
  5. Art Delfo

    Art Delfo It is dark

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    how about Yaweh(which Im sure I have misspelled)
     
  6. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    How about neither? How about Invisible Sky Daddy?
    Or maybe Bog (as in Clockwork Orange)?
    Or what about Santa? Easter Bunny? The Great Pumpkin?
    Baal? Buddha? Krishna? Allah?

    Frankly, I worship the Sun since I believe that all religions came from sun worship to begin with.
     
  7. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    Father Help! and HE does.......

    we are to pray to "Our Father".......

    The Messiah called The Only True GOD, Father! and HE is.......

    i choose to call "The One GOD, Father of ALL", Father also! and HE is.......

    a personal, spiritual relationship. no longer a need for a
    physical temple or laws fulfilled in the fleshly minds of
    religious hypocrites.

    and the pharisee's? their legacy is "catholicism" and her
    adulterated daughters known as "christianity".

    "Our Father"!

    oh, what a wonderful story of Love!

    narrated, taught, and lived by our Brother and Master, The Messiah!

    and for those who know not Our Father?

    well, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope
    that many would come to know and "see" The
    One GOD, Father of ALL..

    all HIS Children will trust HIM to "supply all their
    needs richly as they dwell in The Messiah". such
    Children will Love Their Father with all their heart,
    mind, soul and strength. such Children will cry to
    Their Father for Help! and HE does.......

    and they will have peace, even as war rages....... francisco
    http://ASpiritualJourney.Org
     
  8. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    very sad that you know not "Our Father":-((((((

    of course "catholicism" and her "christian" daughters
    have so perverted "The Way to The Truth of The Life"
    that "The Truth is evil spoken of" and "Truth lies dead
    in the streets of this wicked, evil world(babylon)".

    and you can use that as an "excuse", however that
    will not profit you in any way.

    "set your affections on things above", on The Creator
    not that which HE created.

    the Hopi indians believe:

    "a simple and spiritual life is the only life that will survive".

    and i take the liberty to add "forever".......

    what the Hopi believe is in perfect harmony with the
    teachings and The Life example of The Messiah.

    and while there is breath(spirit) there is hope,
    hope that you would experience "The Messiah
    and The Power that resurrected Him".

    hope that you would experience "Our Father".......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
    http://ASpiritualJourney.Org
     
  9. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    The Invisible Sky Daddy clan strikes back!

    Jesus Skywalker is coming back!! 2,005 years late, but hell...what's time to an all-self-contradictory invisible, intangible, self-existing, SPIRIT (i.e. breath, wind, air, etc.) ???

    Stay tuned. The End is Nigh! And it has been for 2 millennia.

    Now back to regularly scheduled programming...
     
  10. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    strange, i did not think your thoughts would be liken unto the "christians".

    as for The Messiah. He did return just as He had promised.

    the destruction of the old physical, earthly kingdom way was
    accomplished and the new spiritual, heavenly kingdom way
    began. simply, the old covenant vanished away and the new
    covenant commenced in fullness. and so it was that the Faithful
    were to "set their affections on things above", heavenly things,
    that which is Real, and that which is Real is forever.......period.......

    when The Messiah returned the Faithful of that time were taken
    up to Our Father in the "first resurrection" and the Faithful of this
    day, and days gone by, patiently await their deliverance from this
    evil, wicked world.

    it has been revealed that "The Creator is going to destroy them,
    who destroy HIS Creation(earth)"!

    as to when? can you not "see" the destructive processes of this day
    and time? soon and very soon you will hear "time is no more"!

    may you be of those who quit serving "time" in the
    prison that is this world.

    be of those who will not allow pagan "christianity" to
    pull the proverbial "wool" over the "eye of your
    understanding".

    be of those who "see" The Light midst the darkness of
    this world and it's religious systems.

    while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
    http://ASpiritualJourney.Org
     
  11. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    The spiritual, heavenly kingdom was always there and always is. Sometimes you do not realize it however.
     
  12. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    your words testify of your desire for a fleshly, sensual, earthly kingdom,
    so what would you know of a Spiritual, Heavenly Kingdom?

    in one sense your statement is correct, yet The Messiah came to
    reveal The Way to that Spiritual, Heavenly Kingdom.

    The Messiah came and revealed The Way to an eternal Heavenly home
    prepared for those who believed He was sent by The Only True GOD,
    Father of ALL. He revealed "The Way to The Truth of The Life" both
    in what He taught and in His Life example.

    it was not a fleshly, sensual way. until The Messiah came again the
    kingdom remained on and of this earth until that "which waxed old"
    did indeed "vanish away" with the destruction of jerusalem and
    the temple.

    it was then that The New and Living Way began in fullness of Spirit!

    while jerusalem and the temple yet remained, The Messiah, when He
    walked the face of the earth, and His jewish disciples yet kept the
    traditions of judaism.

    thankfully The Messiah came again and destroyed the final vestiges
    of the old covenant and The New and Living Way began for all peoples.

    and The Way is narrow, so narrow that fleshly minds will not enter
    in for they desire those things of their flesh more than they do
    things of The Spirit.

    self-gratification, that's what your words testify to khar......
    rather than "denying yourself"(denying "I") you seek to fulfill
    the desires of your fleshly mind.

    needs be one makes a choice, and your words testify that
    you have chosen for your flesh......flesh=death, Spirit=Life!

    sad for you :-((((((

    yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
    http://ASpiritualJourney.Org
     
  13. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    What God has taught me. What else would I know?

    A fleshly, sensual, earthly kingdom sounds great as long as I have a good bit of power within it. Just like video games are fun sometimes, especially when you can kick everyone else's ass if you want too, but you can always get knocked down by some young upstart like Luke Skywalker. Me, I never attacked people (back in the Diablo II days- pre expansion-pack) unless they were assholes, but it was always satisfying to kick some assholes ass.
    Finally you understand one of my statements!!! You get a star. Or at least a planet that the bible called a star, cuz those primates lacked both technology and knowledge: Venus, the bright and morning star (also called Lucifer, or The Light Bringer). I saw Venus above the moon at 5:22 am yesterday.

    Dumbass. Your earthly desire for spiritual life blinds you that the ways of the flesh are the ways of the spirit as well. Are you not in the flesh as we speak?

    Once again fool, I tell you that You do not know me. Flesh= Spirit.

    And God does not give me the option of death. If God offers it, it is a lie, even if it appears to be true to fools who do not know God.
     
  14. Francisco

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    once again khar, your words bear witness against you.......

    you serve a "god" khar, but not The Only True GOD, Father of ALL.......

    flesh wars against the spirit, just as you do now khar for you
    are yet of the flesh.......

    yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope that you would see how "poor and needy" you are.......
    it is then you will begin to receive from Our Father.......

    peace, even as war rages....... francisco
    http://ASpiritualJourney.Org
     
  15. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Wrong.
    All... Do you really believe that my speaking the truth is against God's will? God has enough liars and people who believe the lies that I can know and speak the truth without corrupting this world. Don't be a fool, trust me- I wouldn't speak the truth if it was not the time.
    If you believe the words you write, you are a fool through and through. You do not know yourself, or at least you portray yourself as one who doesn't.

    Ohh, I am very poor and very needy. Guess who I received poverty and need from? God.
     
  16. Francisco

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    you are yet of the flesh khar, of this world(babylon).......

    yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope that you would "see" "poor and needy"
    as Our Father would have you "see" it.......

    peace, even as war rages....... francisco
     
  17. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Ok. Then why do you tell me to stop hassling you about wanting to move to the next? It's like you say this world is bad when it is good and if I say it is bad you say I am harassing you. I think you just like to tease me.

    Yeah. Umm. I am poor and needy a million dollars. When do I get it?
     
  18. NaykidApe

    NaykidApe Bomb the Ban

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    Because a farmer who grows wax fruit can only gloat at his nieghbors from a distance.
     
  19. Francisco

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    you are very confused khar.......

    and i believe your confusion is caused by your
    own desire to confuse others.

    obvious that you only care about your fleshly life.

    "tease you", ridiculous!

    i only respond because "while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!"
    if there was not hope for you, there would not have been any
    hope for me!

    hope is Real, specially when believed and received.

    receive of Our Father.......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco
     
  20. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Yeah. As usual, when you say something, I respond.

    That's not fair. You can confuse me and I know I can't confuse you. It's totally uncool. Weanie.

    Yeah. I wish I knew what you meant by my fleshly life- if you mean all that god gives me and you as well... then I guess I do only care about you and the life I have been given.

    Of course not sensai. You would never do such a thing. I am sorry to have ever written those words.

    Ok buddy.

    So is pizza, but hope satisfies when the pizza hasn't arrived yet.

    A million bucks. That would be great. I am telling you... if you can ever find it in your heart to stop teasing me and treating me like a dog that is begging for pizza and actually hook a brother up.....
     
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