salvia + bong= ?

Discussion in 'Salvia Divinorum' started by millownotme, Jun 6, 2005.

  1. millownotme

    millownotme Member

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    any one try ripping salvia in a bong?

    does it work? :confused:
     
  2. deadonceagain

    deadonceagain mankind is a plague

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    ive heard salvia works best in bowls, bongs and bubblers
     
  3. redgreenvines

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    sure
    What is all the fuss about Butane Torch lighters? Well, more flame per second means more igniting ability and more heat.

    Apparently if you try to vaporize pure salvinorin off of a metal or glass plate, you do need the heat of a torch, but if you adjust the micro environment such that the pressure is lowered, then the Boiling Point of the salvinorin is lowered – this is what happens when smoking a pipe, so, for a pipe, which the person is sucking on one end (lowering pressure – creating “draw”), a torch is not required to achieve Boiling Point, or vaporization of Salvinorin-A. This is akin to the phenomenon of water boiling at lower temperatures at higher altitudes, where air pressure is lower.

    However to get effects from plain leaf, at least 1/5th of a gram has to be consumed quickly, and for this a torch can help as more will be ignited faster. Personally I advise against this approach since such an amount of heat is damaging to lung tissue. Some salvianauts swear by their torches, and enjoy using them, and have started to use long-tubed pipes and water pipes, this I also do not recommend since up to half the active material condenses on the long cooled surfaces of the pipes. If you do use a torch, then I think it is more healthy for your lungs to have a long stemmed pipe or water pipe or bong, and the gravity bong will also work with the torch. Using the torch and these big pipes will involve some condensation, so it becomes impossible to calibrate dosage, except to say “this is how much I need with this pipe and this lighter”.
     
  4. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Bongs have always been nicer and easier to use, for me, because there is no heat associated with them, and because it's easier to take bigger hits.

    I'm one of the "Salvianuts" that Redgreenvines was talking about, that swears by a torch lighter. ;) But when you use a torch lighter in a bong, the heat doesn't transfer to your lungs at all, so it isn't any more damaging than a regular lighter. That isn't the same for non-water-cooled pipes, though.
     
  5. millownotme

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    thanks. I have a tripped out friend who is going to bring some by some time, it's my first time though. I have done lots fo research on it and i just want to expirience all that it has to offer. I'm looking foreward to it :)
     
  6. Hikaru Zero

    Hikaru Zero Sylvan Paladin

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    Let me give you possibly some of the best advice that would have helped me my first time.

    OPEN YOUR F***IN' MIND.

    That being said, you really have to remember to remain calm, if you're going to smoke a lot. Salvia has a tendency to come on really fast (within the first 30 seconds to a minute) and since it can completely overwhelm all of your senses and thoughts, it could scare the crap out of you, which is pretty much food for a bad experience.

    But as long as you relax, and let go of your grip on reality, you'll be fine.

    Good luck, man.
     
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