supreme court rules marijuana illegal for medical purposes

oh...I also meant to say "welcome Tess"....

 

actually the supreme court ruled that federal laws are stil enforcable. However it is unlikely the lFBI will seek out medical marijauna users. if your state and local cops already chose to no longer enforce federal laws on the subject, nothing has changed. from my point of view, the ruling equals "DUH!!!!!"

 

Very sad when peoples health and well being is jeopordized in the name of greed.
They didn't like it when we were going over the border to get scripted meds...squashed that.
And now they don't like that if this is continued and more states pass their own legislation for it, the big boys stand to lose money by more and more people NOT taking their synthetic...expensive...invasive...meds.

Yes, some of those meds are good and life saving, but if this can be smoked or ingested I know for me I would rather have the weed than the other stuff.

Too many good things about it.....

 

And that, dear friends, is really the reason marijuana is illegal in this country - the pharmaceutical industry wants ALL your money. It is also the reason that so many herbal remedies are now going to be controlled and distributed by script or OTC (at one bitch of a mark-up, no doubt).

The good ol' U.S. of A. - owned and operated by Standard Oil and Eli Lilly.

 

Why they don't legalize it and tax the holy shit outta it like they do everything else (alcohol and cigs) is beyond me. Isn't the "health" of the nation where pot is concerned just as bad as the "health" of the nation would be if they tried prohibition again, just on a different sector of the population? Pot is here to stay just as much as booze and whatever they think they are doing about it isn't going to change that fact.

 

Did you see people getting cancer from tobacco at the turn of the 1900s? No. It was organic. Now you have radon in the fertilizers and shit they spray on it... tar my ass.

 

I never said i don't like it, i smoke the stuff myself. No i don't have unbearable pain, and if it aleviates the pain (wich i know it does) why not extract the the part that performs the interaction with the body that relieves pain; Sythesise it and put it out there like every other drug.
Their are drugs on the market that note all the side effects you mention, who gets those side effects ? a miniscule amount of people..
Thousands of years of research, well grinding up whales testicles is a practice done by chinese medics for thousands of years, the benefits from that ? well thousands if not a few million people swear by it. I am sure you can name a few other 'alternative' medicines. I don't realy wish to draw comparisons because one is not killing animals i suppose. Not realy my point anyway, my point is so what if this has been used for x amount of years.. shamen and white wiches medical exellence is well documented, but still flawed in many ways. If it was possible to restrict this for medical reasons only, great. I am not disputing teepis information 9even if it misses out the negative effect and points out benefits bloody Teas has on the system), only the fact that there is a multitude of legal drugs that are clearly better and a multitude of natural medications that have been professionaly tested and are legal..

It might be taxed into oblivion (cigs) , but the cost to any health care provisions (in our case the NHS is starting to cripple it ... Why is there a restrictions bans and goverment sponsored health drives to get us all to quit. Same with alcohol..we are all drunks so we bring the decay to our body quicker than realy needed. alcohol in small amount is good for you.

Your right about the huge mark up, but you have to admit pharmaceutical company pioneer far more than cough mixtures or such like. they also finance cancer treatments and all kinds of drugs that save lives every minute of the day.. unless we are prepared to finance all that research ourselves we have that double edged sword of 'greedy pharmaceutical copany' a bit of a well oiled myth on a lot of occasions as most make huge losses due to failed researh projects or uncertifed drugs never making it to the market.

I smoke roll ups , just because of all the shit they put in fags.. if i make it to my 90th birthday with out getting any side effects.. i still can't put it down to all the chemicals they put into it.. It is the natural shit found in it that does as much damage as the chemicals themselves..ignoring that is stupid..

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Alchohol may be good for you in small amounts, but we are talking about people who are ill and in pain, a small amount to ease their pain for a few hours isn't good for them? I am sure these people who are ill, have glaucoma, in pain are not going to be sitting around smoking bowl after bowl, they want enough to ease their pain.

 

I know that. I was never trying to say people will become drug feinds.

 

I worked for a few years as a pharmacy tech and there are people who don't seem to suffer side effects from meds that others suffer so greatly from...actually ending up taking other meds to alleviate the side effects from the first meds.

There is synthetic,However manufacturing THC is a very expensive, and thus cost-prohibitive, process. The encapsulation procedure also requires elaborate and expensive chemical processes that use fairly common preservatives like methylparaben and propylparaben, as well the whitening agent titanium dioxide, in a sesame oil capsule. The once unstable synthetic THC compound now has a long shelf-life in the sesame oil capsules, although all Marinol products are marked with 6 month expiration dates for added safety. Obviously, reproducing marijuana’s therapeutic effects is no easy task, even with today’s most cutting-edge technologies.

In 1980, the National Cancer Institute (NCI) began experimenting with itMarinol, giving it to cancer patients in San Francisco. Simultaneously, six states conducted studies comparing smoked marijuana to oral THC in cancer patients who had not responded to traditional antivomiting medication. These state-sponsored studies revealed that thousands of patients found marijuana safer and more effective than synthetic THC. Meanwhile, the NCI experiments showed that some patients responded well to Marinol.

Confronted with two different medical recommendations, the government chose to dismiss the state studies and give Marinol the green light. In 1981, the government sold the Marinol patent to a small pharmaceutical company named Unimed based in Somerville, New Jersey. By 1985, after one unsuccessful attempt at FDA approval, Marinol was finally approved as a Schedule II drug (a relatively quick approval by FDA standards). Thus, Unimed, with government backing, began targeting terminal cancer patients in order to accumulate profit.
Unimed still specializes primarily in niche pharmaceutical markets, namely AIDS drugs. However, among the few drugs manufactured by Unimed, Marinol easily garners the highest profits, drawing in over 90% of total revenues. Unimed has reported greater sales nearly every year since 1985, reaching a high of $9.7 million in 1995. I don't know sales figures beyond that.

gotta go back later...........

 

My little rant, probably covered up the small humble of my first post..justify it, well i tried.

 

Marinol may cause the following side effects: feeling "high" (i.e. easy laughing, elation, and heightened awareness), abdominal pain, dizziness, confusion, depression, nightmares, speech difficulties, chills, sweating, and even psychological and physiological dependence. Some of these potential side effects seem quite serious for any legal pharmaceutical. Even less comforting, the product insert explains what to do in case of accidental overdose:

"A potentially serious oral ingestion, if recent, should be managed with gut decontamination. In unconscious patients with a secure airway, instill activated charcoal via a nosagastric tube. A saline cathartic or sorbitol may be added to the first dose of activated charcoal. Patients experiencing depressive, hallucinatory or psychotic reactions should be placed in a quiet area and offered reassurance."

While weed may produce such side effects as: euphoria, laughter, anxiety, dry mouth, red eyes, sleepiness, clumsiness, increased appetite; these conditions pale in comparison to those attributed to Marinol.

The THC content in Marinal is like 98% where in weed its around 8-10% I believe.
But Marinal sales being what they are, proves that our goverment is truely in charge of our bodies when we are sick. We tend to be at their mercy in a traditional setting.
Like I said before the basis is greed...
Ask 100 people whatthey would vote for presented the facts...and quite a few probably more than 50% would say its silly NOT to allow these patients more control over their treatment.
Thus the FEDS taking the voting power of the states away.

 

HI LUV!!
How true.......

 

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I'm glad you find some enjoyment....and If you don't have pain like I stated then you CAN"T sate that there are "BETTER" drugs available....they make me VOMIT. I can sense that your not trying to make anyone angry ,your just passinate,which is healthy but......I am slightly offended that you speak of what you do not know. There are so many (spelling here) canabinoids? and particulars in mari' that to synthisize would ruin the potency and effectiveness.It would change the whole point. Also one of the main points is if it where legal not just for med' purposes then our young would hopefully be regulated away from harder drugs.They would not find themselves in back ally meth shops trying to score weed and ending up trying somthing new. It would at least work with a good majority.Not to mention the "legal" stuff has been more of a problem on the black market then pot. Our youth is our future...hmmm.....whale testicules?? maybe I should try it.And for the drives duh.....They want you to believe they care,they do way more harmful advertizing that counteractsand contridicts.

 

I thanx you for the welcome also Teepi.
And I also wanted to say that ....with side effects I don't really care how often or not they happen.....I don't want to be a guinea pig.I'll pass thanx. I do somtimes have to take them yucky's but I don't like too.

 

Very true....really nothing has changed....just be good with it....don't abuse it or your bad. Stay kewl and know your love.

 

Yes, on my TV yesterday the crawl along the bottom of the screen while the news was on, said something about the ruling then it said "Don't Panic"...Larry and I cracked up.

 

my old man has been using marijuana to alleviate pain from MS. It has made him feel better and I've noticed a big change in the way he lives while puffing.

 

It's all BS in my opinion. How can we call our gov't. a democracy? U.S. citizens voted to pass the medicinal MJ acts. Now the supreme court overrules it? Does voting for anything or anybody mean anything anymore? Apparently not, especially with gwb at the wheel. Politics have become so corrupt, and politicians have become so far removed from their constituents that it seems more like a dictatorship than a democracy. The only thing the politicians care about is their own agendas and greed. The states are supposed to have the final say, not the federal gov't. I think too many people ignore the constitution and believe what they are told. Remember "By the people, and for the people"? Now, it's "Fuck the people, and for the politicians". Enough said. Peace.