If you are with a man and he tells you he has every intention of being with you, wants to marry you, wants a future with you -- how long is it okay to wait for him to make up his mind, get his stuff together, make the move, etc.? A year, two years, ten years? Should a woman continue to be with her man, if she believes he loves and cares about her, even though he won't make a gesture of permanent commitment? Especially, if he wants all the trappings of a complete relationship? What if she has an engagement ring, but has been engaged for five years? What if the two of them live together, have purchased a home, comingled finances, etc.? What if they have children?
Never ever ever force marraige on anyone. Better to be a girlfriend with jewellery than resented for having forced something that someone's uncomfortable with. Probably, he likes having you around but doesn't want you turning into a cross between a nagging shrew and his mom, which you will become when you marry him.
it depends i get very fed up when no effort is made as opposed to no commitment. commitment takes self sacrifice that one may not be ready for but effort just takes time and pre planning but if a guy doesn't want to put in effort then i dont want to commit myself or my time because im 23, and that sure as shit isn't a time in one's life where they should stay with someone who puts no effort in.
I know a couple that have been together for 14 years and aren't married yet. Personally, I think that's a little ridiculous...on the other hand...maybe there is something to be said for it. Marriage makes someone feel FORCED to be together, while, if they are living together, sharing things, WITHOUT the commitment of marriage, at least you know your significant other is there because they WANT to be. I just feel like the couple that I was talking about previously aren't the type of people that think in the manner in which I stated. The gentleman is a complete jerk and too lazy and self absorbed to propose to his S/O. I think it all has to do with the type of people we're talking about. I think there could be arguements for and against marriage.