emotions...

My emotions need a beer and a sandwich, preferably while watching baseball

 

Fair enough and I thank you for your thoughts and wisdom....Life is learning and we do.....so that is how it should be and is.

I trust that your journey will bring you what you need and seek....be it single or not.

I think that knowing what you do not want is probably more important than knowing what you are seeking.

Life is just like that.....we never have it figured out further than where we are.

 

hogwash! i have been privy to many of your minds happenings and your hearts whispers.... you redheaded dork

 

RE: i dont know so much if its a sharing of all your emotions so much that we want as just a porthole into you guys.

We're not that difficult to understand, really we're very simple. Watch "Spike TV" and you'll get the gist of it

Things that explode = good
Sometimes, some people need a good punch to the face
Beer = good
Good looking people = good

What else do you possibly want to know?

All you need to do to understand the guy you're with is figure out what he geeks to. Some geeks are geek geeks - Star Trek, computers, whatever. But the jock who laughs at him can remember the ERA over RBI ratio to the CGA for Brockenshleimer the Ham Fighters catcher in the 1978 National League whatever. Chances are you will hate it and want him to stop, because it consumes time and money you want spent on you.

Sorry, but "a porthole into you" is something that makes a lot of guys wary.

 

Again, this is overexaggeration to make a point. Most of the guys here will be much more enlightened, yeah?

 

not enlightened so much...i think you speak wise and of the general populus but i think it seems as if you have no desire to let someone know the real guy inside. all the things of which you spoke are mere distractions not what truly is what makes you tick

 

Its really hard for me to expres smy emotions to people. I really am just not comfortable expressing my emotions, the only person i can really express my emotions to are my therapist and my girlfriend. And also i havent cried since the third grade, its not that i make my self not cry, its just i cant cry, its kinda wierd and upsetting.

 

If you do, can I watch? And can I be the guy?

 

I have no interest anymore in letting any female know "who I am". That only seems to be ammunition so they can figure out how to change it all.

 

sure though i have never been with a woman so i might get a bit jealous, so it can be solved by me being the play toy

 

You'd make a cute play toy! Nobody usually gets jealous about the sex, it's usually talking about it afterwards, people say the wrong thing, especially the couple involved. So it's mainly the emotions everyone's dealing with, not just the sex, unless they are punch-in & punch-out porn stars who do this for a living. Men are notorious for the insensitive comments & women are known for fishing them out of us. It's like the loaded question, "Does this outfit make me look fat?" So it's good to be around somebody who has experienced these emotions & has been in this type of situation before. I've seen a lot of jealousy & I've seen people get over it. But it's usually before or afterwards, not during. And it's a hard thing to get over. But it happens.

It seems like women are much more affected by other women's opinions than even what men think of them. It's almost a given that they are more interested in what other women are wearing at a gathering & that they try to outdress one another. Well, this is just the opposite. They are trying to out-undress each other. Most of the time they can be shy & this goes best when everybody is quite fucked up. There are ways to keep everybody happy as you said & make them feel included & that is one way. Unselfishness is practiced between two people & then they can truly include someone else.

The French use this noun ménage, meaning a household or housekeeping relating to a married couple such as jeune ménage meaning newlyweds. But the verb ménager, means to economize, to be careful of, or be considerate of another or include them; to treat with respect or bring about. (à trois means to or for three) A ménager quelqu'un is to be considerate of someone. This word extends to being considerate with speech. If men are often guilty of spoiling it through insensitivity to the women involved, then women are often guilty through jealous speech or digging for too much information from the guy about the enjoyment of the other woman or if he has feelings for her. Il ne ménage pas assez ses expressions, means he is not careful about what he says. So this is a cute term for three people doing this very discreetly & it involves sometimes a female housekeeper, la ménagère (which leads us to wonder about where the whole French Maid Fantasy originated).

This is where the word 'menagerie' originated, meaning a collection of wild or foreign animals kept especially for exhibition (a real circus!) —stemming from the word meaning 'household.' I think the ‘men_nag_er_ie’ pronunciation is somewhat relevant here; meaning a household where men are nagged. That's what we get for wanting more than one woman because they certainly don't get on very well. Check out the TV Show, ElimiDate, if you want to see women catfighting one another to the verge of violence. And they do it for spite over shallow, jocks & one-nighter guys, so it's never about him, but always about being the number one bitch & getting the prize, even if it is a dead rat they drag to the doorstep. This is evidence that proves their prowess & powers of seduction are superior to all other women in the domain. This makes them the most vicious of the species, actually establishing their territory immediately & an immediate pecking order amongst other female strangers. A bunch of guys & one woman obviously doesn't work in the same way for TV ratings, since they would rather get drunk & take turns than bludgeon one another.

But long term threesomes are difficult. Yet I've seen several happy working ones. You're not cheating if the other person knows about it, are you? And if you love them you want them to be happy, so it has to be applied fairly & equally between both parties. That usually works. Jealousy more or less defeats love because love is giving & sharing while jealousy is rooted in selfishness.

I don't push for this type of thing because of the emotions involved & people all have to get along for the living type situation to happen, particularly the women who are the key to it all. If the guy just likes both women but they don't see eye-to-eye, then you have a real problem & might as well forget it. Unless you are exceptionally patient it's a hard road anyway, because two people already have enough problems without a third. I can't see that just the sex would be that way, but I'm sure women being the creatures that they are would feel a lot differently to have another woman in the same bed with her man. But I've seen that work & I've also seen two guys & one woman work. They were both straight guys having sex with the same woman. I don't mind women having sex with each other. I think it's beautiful if they are both feminine (which is often not the case in reality although portrayed as such.) I think very differently about two women together than two men & I know most men would agree if put to the test. I know what the bleeding heart equality freaks are going to say about that, but I'm entitled to my own opinion, which is that most men don't see any beauty in other guys when it comes right down to it.

I have been in relationships where women were made jealous by the previous guy & so they just automatically never trusted men nor me, even though I towed the line. It was something of an insecurity in their view of self & others. I can understand trying to help people get over it because it can really take hold. But they have to want to get over it. You have to have cooperation from both parties. But some people do not or will not or cannot get over jealousy. Certain people are prone to this to some degree or another, more or less. A lot of it has to do with their own self-esteem.

 

you know sky...you could have stopped that post at "you would make a cute play toy" and i would have been fine with that. now i have lost 10 minutes of my life learning another language. i took 4 years of French in school and don't remember a lick of it...so i will most likely forget the middle paragraphs you wrote here.
This subject must have really excited you....lol.
Anyway, I agree it definately has to be a mutual desire or else it will not at all work. Don't know if it's really my bag though. I am more of a one on one intimate person. Yes the other could be alot of fun but it's just a place I would rather not explore. Have I thought about it? well hell yeah. I dream of being with chics all the time...or used to at least...its just not written in my programming to go out there and try though.

 

RE: Check out the TV Show, ElimiDate, if you want to see women catfighting one another to the verge of violence. And they do it for spite over shallow, jocks & one-nighter guys, so it's never about him, but always about being the number one bitch & getting the prize, even if it is a dead rat they drag to the doorstep.

I will refrain from comment. People think I'm a troll as it is.

As for menages or whatever, it seems to me it'd be like bigamy - the only self punishing crime. Dear God I can't deal with ONE other human being in my life never mind two.

There was that guy in Saudi Arabia who took the back of his head off with a shotgun cause he couldn't take having the four wives around, if I remember.

 

I wouldn't mind tapping into your female side (backside that is) You perky little wench!

Get your ass over here and sit right in the middle of my lap baby!

 

oh how could i resist

*goes over and sits on shitheads lap and farts*

 

Do not make a post like this again or I will remove it. Uncalled for.

Heat

 

Well, in all honesty, I actually had that last, but I pasted it up front to make the thread have more continuity. This was more like a language lesson. I took it in school too, but I lived there a few years, so then it clicked better. Native-speakers really bend & sing most languages, which is something my French teacher couldn't teach us -ha! It's more surprising though, how most of our words originated & although we think we are speaking 'English' when you do learn to speak other languages, the words form bridges back to their origins of which most of the time we are completely oblivious. It's funny how many of them we even use in their natural form.

No, not really, but typical of most guys thinking, or so they claim. Sometimes we seem to be the scapegoats for sexual thinking, when truthfully women think about it too. I think it depends on the person as some people try to shut it out & others indulge their thoughts. Growing up as a Catholic kid, I found it was impossible to shut it out like you were supposed to & it could drive you nuts. (Maybe that explains my problem

Perhaps it's just the way males think about it. (I think that's necessary for functioning in reproduction or it wouldn't have to be like that.) I always wondered about the psychological statistics about how much sex is supposed to occupy our thoughts, so many percent of them. Who comes up with these numbers? I think Freud was obsessed. Au contrare, this was purely academic because I've had threesomes & they weren't all that. It's a bit overrated & people who haven't been there don't realize what an emotional maze it is.

I learned a lot from putting this in type. A little soul searching. Je m'excuse for using your quip as a segway, but it was an issue I couldn't resist. I thought it only fair to echo your playful comment & this certainly does not have to mean with me —lol: (Insert favorite images into this fantasy.)

Sometimes it's late, and my mind is running way too fast for my body, so it's not really about the physical. Then the thought patterns meander through my subconscious & things in other parallel worlds, like languages, can surface. Ask any insomniac. It's a whole other universe when things are quiet. Some people dread the quiet, but I crave it. It sometimes reminds me of those experiments Thomas Edison was doing with early radio & tuning in between channels. I don't know if his name came up in the Movie, 'White Noise,' which I missed, but I read that in an English bookstore in Siam Square one Sunday afternoon, something about him doing experiments with the paranormal.

I didn't get back here in time because of private affairs I had to attend to. But, to return to the language of love, it does qualify as one of the strongest of human emotions, and causes us to do good things & usually not things that are bad & if it seems like love that does, then maybe we'd better go back & examine whether it is really 'love' for a fact. That connected to the whole issue of jealousy & why it is considered a virtue by some, when in fact it is quite the opposite. Most people find it very smothering. It's possessively selfish by definition, especially if people would rather destroy something or someone than risk letting anyone else have part of it.

I think this subject is related to the hippy lifestyle, but not dealt with much in movies about the hippy movement. There are a lot of films & documentaries coming out about it now that it's retro, trendy & there's an emotional cushion of time in place to mask any negative realities. But most of these are pretty shallow & only deal with surface issues. Did you ever notice how we tend to look at the past through rose-colored glasses? That might explain our fascination with it.

 

I guess it would depend on the wemon. I really think its ridiculous to have more than one partner though.