circumcision

Discussion in 'Body Modification' started by peacelovebarefeet, Jun 12, 2005.

  1. sag aloo

    sag aloo Member

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    religiuos reasons? bit funny that - so god fuckd up & made a mistake ??? actually also sorry to tell old spoil sport god u can still whack off - better cutting a babies fists off if that the plan
    social reason - wtf does that mean? keep up wif the jones
    hygene/health reasons - cum on we no thats a crap myth this day n age- more risk healthwise doin it - u don't cut other bits of a baby for that reason - cut little babies legs off - it wont ever get bad knees or ankle cancer at least!
     
  2. celtgrrl

    celtgrrl batty woman

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    my son is not circumsized. when he was born i just couldn't bring myself to do it. i thought perhaps he might want to be circumcized b/c his father was and it is the majority still, but i couldn't do it. when i told my stepmother she said, "but why? it doesn't hurt them". and i said,
    "they piss on an open wound for weeks. tell me that doesn't hurt". she didn't say anything else.
    my son is now 17 and he has never complained about not being circumcized. he does get irritated when he goes to the doc and they go on about him pushing the foreskin back and making sure it's clean..."i know, i know!" lol
     
  3. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    I think I really need more infomation that what you just said to give an accurate response, but it sound like its wrong. This is completely different that cutting of intimate parts of girls. This has a reason I understand. All I did was encourage individuals to make their own decision. What you've just said is offensive, you have no idea how I think. If you want to go depict something as thought for your own purposes, do it on television like all the others do, so I can ignore it.
     
  4. Green

    Green Iconoclastic

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    Oh and yes IronGoth, it is those parents choice to cut off their childs limbs. I never said if it was right or not, nor do I care. We don't get to govern people in Sudan.

    Here should we give the parents authority? The parents aren't going to cut it off for some damned psycological reason, so why not?
     
  5. steffan

    steffan puffin

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    its a barbaric custom,
     
  6. tommyboy487

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    lol... funny.
     
  7. Gr8fulyDeadicated

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    ok, i wasn't gonna comment cuz i'm a woman, but i do have 3 sons. so my first son (almost 13yo), my ex wanted him circed to 'be like him' - what a crock. i didn't really want to do it, but didn't have any good reason not too, so we did and it was horrible. no, he didn't have any complications or infections or get his pee pee cut off, just the 'normal' circ was awful. he was such a good happy baby until afterwards... my second son (almost 11 yo) escaped because his urethra was downturned(?) it's been a while, i can't remember exactly what they said it was (looked normal to me!) - anyways, i woulda had to take him in when he was 2 to get it done. no way in hell was i gonna do that to my boy by the time he was 2 - and can you just imagine what hell he woulda put me through? plenty old enough to understand that mommy took him to get it cut. he's fine, never had one minute of problems with cleanliness, gettin picked on, whatever. so now we have a new baby - well, he'll be a year old next month - and i asked my new (& improved!!!) husband what he thought about it. his response? "it's barbaric & unnecessary." god, i love him... anyways, we didn't do it, the baby never has any cleanliness problems, and he is always happy.

    ok, so i googled it and came up with an awesome site: http://www.historyofcircumcision.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=54

    Chronology of the foreskin and circumcision
    here's a few excerpts, but it goes from 10,000 bc to 2003 - with tons of links to all the supporting material.

    • 1860s Circumcision as means of curing or preventing masturbation in boys becomes widespread medical dogma in Britain. For the next 100 years (and in the USA 150 years) doctors insist it is a scientifically proven medical fact that the foreskin is harmful to the physical and moral health of males and must be surgically removed before they even become conscious that it was ever there.
      [*]1877 (USA) John Harvey Kellogg MD (1852-1943) publishes the first edition of Plain facts for old and young, in which he promotes circumcision as a cure for masturbation. He writes that the operation was to be performed "without administering an anaesthetic, as the brief pain attending the operation will have a salutary effect upon the mind, especially if it be connected with the idea of punishment."
      [*]late 1880s The newly formed American Academy of Pediatrics supports Lewis Sayre’s call for routine neonatal circumcision. Determined to lower the nation’s infant mortality rate by reducing often-lethal diarrhoea, the AAP argues that the foreskin irritates the penis, which irritates the nervous system, which hampers digestion, which causes diarrhoea. Simultaneously, the AAP also condemns breast milk, claiming it is a leading cause of infant diarrhoea.
      [*]1999 (USA) The American Academy of Pediatrics issues new policy on routine male circumcision which states that the potential medical benefits of circumcision do not warrant performing it routinely, but that paediatricians may perform it at the parents’ behest for "cultural, religious, and ethnic" reasons, but that analgesia is essential.
    During 20th century, more than 120 million foreskins were severed from American penises, more than in any other country in the world. (throw THAT fact out for conversation at the dinner table!! lol!!)
     
  8. Trickster

    Trickster Misfit

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    They say that a circumsised guy is cleaner, maybe technically as in they wash in less time. It's not a big deal thought to be unsnipped. It just takes you a second longer to wash a little more skin. What's the big deal.

    The blokes i've dated have been uncircumsised. Look at it this way. Every penis is unique whether cut or not, long or short, tanned or dark. The man is the important thing :)
     
  9. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    1. this isn't common, in adult men
    2. it is often caused (the phimosis which is caused by and complicated by scarring) by prematurely and violently retracting the foreskin in a child whose forskin hasn't yet been ready to retract on it's own
    3. it can be dealt with if and when it happens, in a full grown adult, under general anesthesia, not "as a precaution."
    4. By "phimosis" we are talking about pathological phimosis in an adult male or adherence in a child, which effects urine flow, where the forskin is either too tight after the age where it would have naturally retracted, or blocks the urethra, causing problems with urination or erection, not the normal "sealing" that the foreskin is supposed to do with a small boy.
     
  10. Maggie Sugar

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    Yes. The male's decision, when he is an adult, and old enough to make the decision for himself. Most adults would NOT choose to do this to themselves, I would think.

    My dad's mama was from the Old Country and didn't circ him. My mom was always trying to get my dad to get it done (she thought it would give her cervical cancer, which is not true, but that is what she was told by some idiot doctors) and he kept canceling the appointments. It was his, and only his decision. He will go to the his grave with the foreskin he was born with. Thank God.
     
  11. Kitaro

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    Ok, I'll be honest. I have it and it kinda sucks. What are the options?
     
  12. stonr

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    3. it can be dealt with if and when it happens, in a full grown adult, under general anesthesia, not "as a precaution"

    ask your doctor about it would be a good idea imo
     
  13. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    You have phimosis? Are you cut?
     
  14. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    RE: You have phymosis? Are you cut?

    That's like asking if you have arthritis in an amputated foot.
     
  15. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Well, some circs leave some tissue attached, these are more likely to adhere than normal non cut males. I have seen phimosis in men who were given a circ as a child. Some docs, either by design or not paying attention, leave some tissue. This tissue can scar up, and adhere, and cause a from of this condition.
     
  16. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    True... very good.
     
  17. parnell

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    Topical Steroidal creams are the correct treatment for phimosis - no cutting is neccessary - they will grow the foreskin so it is not so tight.
     
  18. gaudetm2

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    I got it done last year when I was 21, I would of liked for my parents to have got it done for me when I was a baby but oh well it's done now. :p
     
  19. Gr8fulyDeadicated

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    ^^ so is sex better for you now? did you have any GOOD sex before & after, so you can compare? (not all sex is good, ya know) i'm just curious, cuz all the literature says that most of the feeling is in the skin that gets cut off. how long did it take to heal?

    inquiring minds want to know.... lol!!
     
  20. Trickster

    Trickster Misfit

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    You brave, brave boy :)



     

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