sorry, haven't read the whole thread. it never ceases to amaze me that there are people, well sheep really, that are lead around so willingly and obtusely as to put bush/cheney stickers on their cars! why not just paint "I'm a stupid feck who has never had an original thought in my whole life!" across your bumper? it says the same thing, really. and remember the Christian directive to love thy neighbor, remembering all the while just how small the world has become. Peace.
Somewhat driven? Are you kidding me? I had posted about my support of the US role in Kosovo. Your response "How has our involvement in Kosovo made sense? Just because it happened under Clinton, a democrat?" Which I responeded, "Everything in life isn't about which political party you support Danip. In case you really wanted to know I'm a registered Independent as I realize the ass of both the Donkey and the Elephant stink and unfortunately due to our bipartisan system I'm forced to pick which one stinks less. If I was old enough at the time do you think I would have voted for Mondale?" Look at your signature picture. Your posts are only somewhat by the political party you represent? See that's the thing - you have this whole mentalitity of Republican vs. Democrat. I honestly could give a shit about political parties - I put that aside and look at the issues - maybe you should try that for once.
One could say the exact same thing about a John Kerry sticker or just about any other stupid political sticker. Don't think that I do not look at the issues. For quite some time I did not take much of a stance on the war or who I was going to vote for till I knew a little bit more about the issues. It has not been very long that I decided Bush was my man. Kerry cant keep a story straight, he has so many different versions of one story. One second he is a war hero the other second he anti-war peace at all costs bastard. And I will not throw my vote away and vote for nader or some other small party member. The presidential race will come down to Kerry and Bush and I do not think anyone can deny that. If Kerry gets into office our country will take a landslide. He is to willing to kiss ass and appologize for evertying. The US has NO reason to appologize for what we have done.
You're obviously blind if you can't recognize that our country already has taken a landslide. What has happened under the Bush administration - the greatest amount of lost jobs by both numbers and percentages since the Great Depression - a Budget surplus turned into the largest budget deficit ever - included in the deficit is the depletion of the a huge portion of Social Security Funds - Alienation from all world allies except Great Britian - an improperly planned war that is costing far more lives and money than predicted. Why? Because Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz planned this war in 1997, well prior to 9/11 I'm not saying Kerry is the greatest man out there for the job, but there are 100's of people who could do a better job than Bush and Kerry is one of them. As great as our country is, we cannot continue to prosper without international support of which we have essentially none at the current time. What issues are you looking at Danip? Tell me about these issues?
If I'm not mistaken, there has been a marked increace in the number of jobs created over the past few months. Plus, it's not really in a president't power to control job creation/reduction. They can influence it to an extent, but no politician has ever had real power over the economy. I can't dispute the other 3 bullets though. My big problem with Kerry though, as Danip says, is that he is willing to kiss ass to make the US the UN's bitch, and that's not what I want. The UN will not look out for American security interests, so we should not weaken our foreign policy to appease the international community.
This is true to an extent - ultimatly the president isn't the job god however.... As I had said - greatest loss of jobs since the Great Depression. But then again, there was this thing called 'The New Deal' that was initiated by the president back then, which seemed to help quite a bit. Instead of doing something positive to spur job growth, what was Bush's response? A tax cut - here everyone, here's a few hundred bucks - go to Walmart and this whole thing will turn itself right around (pssst don't tell anyone I'm giving the rich millions in tax relief while you receive your measly check). Same basic economic policy as Reagen's. What happened then, well everyone remembers the recession of the early 90's.
This is going to piss alot of people off and I know that I am going to get flammed for this but here it goes. I know that I am not the first to say this but Clintion was a disgrace as a president. I do not care that he slept with some fat lady, that doesnt matter to me. But because of his horrific 8 years our country had our deficits. Things a president does DO NOT affect the country imeideitly, they take time, sometimes alot of time. As far as our international relations. Im glad they hate us. I hate them. I do not want to be allied with Europe they are peace loveing pussies along with the U.N. They will benifit us none. We already took over Iraq with no help, and we took over fast with minimal loss of life. We do not need international support. U.N.American.
Bush should raise taxes on the rich and lower them on the poor and middle class that the right whay to Start.
What about the 125,000 some-odd British troops that fought in Iraq? The rich already pay most of the taxes, the ones we call "poor" pay almost nothing in taxes. Yeah, because Bush dosen't have anything better to do than sit around on a hippy forum right?
Um, what's wrong with loving peace? I'm rather fond of it myself. Yes we do. We did take over Iraq swiftly and with little trouble, but maintaining that control in Iraq, and trying to get out of Iraq is a different story, and plainly our government didn't plan this out well past the invasion phase.
That's because they're poor... Hehe that would be a treat though, Bush coming here so all of us could rant at him. I'm sure he'd be instantly recognizable by his trademark Bushisms, unless he had his speechwriter post for him.
Nothing is wrong with peace. Peace is the best thing. But Europe has become a "peace at all costs" continent. There are times when war is necessary, you cannot have peace at all costs.
It's not really about punishment. The wealthy are the ones who can best afford to pay the brunt of the taxes.
The way you guys are wording it, you could just as well say that you're "punishing" the poor by taxing them. I don't see why it's so hard to do the math in your head. It's not like we're forcing the wealthy to sell their homes and live in garbage bins. They're still rich even after they pay their taxes. That's because they are rich and they can afford it, and that's why it makes obvious sense to place more of the tax burden on the rich.
