Sick Fundy Christians - 'Child sacrifices in London'

Like I said (as well as epiphany), they aren't Christian, -they don't even obey the Bible, so how can they be Christians??

Are you a Budhist if you don't believe in reincarnation?

 

You are foul-natured, world-of-dan. There is no reason to be that way. So you read an article - good for you.

However, Scotland Yard could have been in error to place the 'label' of fundamental. The writer of the article could have been in error to promote the term.

And unless you are a member of that church, I don't see you as able to prove what they are, or allegedly are.

The argument may be reduced to logic. If what is done is non-fundamental, the individual is not a fundamentalist. If what is done is non-Christian, the individual is not a Christian.

 

quote: No, I believe you are blind - blind to what Christians can do and have done, both in the past and the present - and this is a perfect example of it...

Well Dan, I'd imagine you consider yourself an Englishman, following the general societal rules of the area, but you would not have to take responsibility for every murderer who considers himself the same.

A person can only be in charge of their own actions.....if someone considers themselves Christian and does something like this, its not the entire religion's fault.


I'm not a huge fan of fundamentatlism, or organized religion in general, but I would certainly expect other Christians to be horrified by this too...I think enough of them to believe that they would not be in favor of the sacrificial murder of children!

Come on, they aren't THAT bad are they ?!

 

*Sigh* more generalizations... Here is my boyfriend's profile.

http://hipforums.com/forums/member.php?do=getinfo&userid=573

Take a gander at his religious preference and then try to make another Pagan-bashing statement at my expense.


A person can claim they are a Christian until they turn blue in the face. However, if their actions do not reflect their claims, then their words are in vain.

It is quite sad and pathetic how you continually state that I am supporting their actions. Apparently, you have missed my rants about the evils of such institutions, such the Catholic church in association with the killing of many men and women in the name of, "religion" (The Crusades).

It would not matter if it was at the hands of a church, an ancient tribe of New Guinea, or the boy next door. I DO NOT support murder.

 

I've always thought it was a shame the apostles didn't copywrite the name "christian".
As it is anybody can use it and alot of sick folks have and do.

 

I'm upset because I post something, and she starts to attack me - she started the fight, not me - she's the one that started out by insulting me telling me i should get a dictionary - and yet all of a sudden I'm the bad guy...

I mean, I didn't even post any comments with the orginal thread, except to call them bastards in the title - now surely that's something she would agree with me on? but no, she has to attack me. insults my intellegence.

PS, if these guys call themselves christian, and follow the bible using their own 'intrepertaton' what's to say they're not christian? There are diffrent forms of christanity all over the world, each suited to the local culture - what makes you so sure that your brand of christanity is the correct one? You can sit there all day, until you're blue in the face, and say 'oh, they're not real christians', but I can damn well be sure they'd say exactly the same thing about you.

The bible says not to kill, right? that's a commandment, but it also says "Shall not suffer a witch to live" - and they were classing these children as witches - so YES, they were following the bible, and were christians.

Again, I'm not saying all christians are like this, as i said before, that would be like saying that muslims are terrorists, but that's not good enough for her, no, she has to attack me, then play all innocent and get everyone else to attack me too.

i mean, fucking hell guys.. what have I done wrong?

 

From the way it looks up here, just about everything.

 

Once again, the Bible says that murder's a sin, that sacrifice of babies is sin, and that JESUS WAS THE LAST SACRIFICE (before that they sacrificed innocent animals).

*sigh*
My seconed to last post must be invisible...

That already disproves their 'religious act'. ^^;

 

I dont see where you have done anything wrong, you only stated the obvious facts. Obviously these people were Christian and they sacrificed children, it's fucked up. This is a sensitive subject though, especially for people that are followers of the same religion, and i'm not surprised at all that people are getting defensive about it. I would be just as quick to point out Pagans practicing child sacrafices are far removed from what is generally practiced and what I myself practice.

 

what's so obvious about it?!

 

Like I say anybody can call themselves christian, doesn't make them a follower of christ.
If you look at some of the worst examples in history you have to wonder if these "christians" ever heard of the new testement.
I read about christians blowing up abortion clinics and I think the same thing "bastards!".
I think about some of the christians who've picked me up hitchhiking, or taken time out of their day to man the soup kitchens, or gone out looking for homeless people on a freezing winter night and I think something completely different.

Maybe we should start distinquishing by calling the latter "followers of christ" in as much as that's what they seem to be trying to do, and the former "bastards" in as much as they obviously don't know who their father is.

 

But in some peoples fucked up view of reality a witch would be considered spawn of Satan and it would be their religious duty to kill the person concerned.

 

How is stating your defition wrong a personal attack? This is a forum for debate.

 

You don't understand, that is YOUR intrepertation of the bible - but that's not the only inrepertation, there are many, based on your culture and lifestyle - why do you think there are so many diffrent types of christian - baptist, methodist, catholic, 7th day, prostitant, etc.. - each with diffrent views on the bible.

The bible clearly states that that you should kill witches, and if you view witches as the spawn of satan, therefore not-human, you're not doing anything wrong by killing them - you're doing god's work. - Yes, I understand that you intrepert the bible in a diffrent way, but that does not change the fact that these christians were christians, following the bible in the way they intreperted.

 

Exactly!!!

 

Oh, all christians agree on the same thing, -the Bible.

But some say the gifts aren't for today, while others say they are.
Some like to yell and shout, others like it silent,
Some say dunk the baby into the water, others say sprinkle the baby with water.

The witches one is of the OT. This was changed in the NT.

 

I think your still missing the point Dan was trying to make. There is no one set way to interpret the bible. Is it literal? Is it symbolic? It all depends on the person thats reading it. Not everyone excludes the old testament in their beliefs, so the witch verse holds as much water now as it did when it was originally written to them.

 

Thank you... I'm glad someone understands.

 

and yet, the crussades still happened.

 

Today's Christians may not be held accountable for the crusades.

Why beat a dead horse?