psych ward and obsessive compulsive disorder

I've been up alnight with this on my mind. I've been hospitalized four times. I'm going to keep the reason why I was there to myself, but I've been having some nightmares about it. I don't plan or want to ever go back to the psych ward, but I can't help but doubt that I'll return. I've been thinking of asking my therapist and social worker if I can double the visits. I just have two questions. Is there any vitamins that help treat depression? I can't take antid-depressants because I'm allergic to them. What's the symptoms for obsessive compulsive disorder?

 

I'd like to add to this that when I realize that now I'm older when I get in the negative state of mania. I seem to be able to control my destructive behavior. I remember as being younger I would flip out on people and it was hard from me to walk away from a fight when someone was pissing me off. Now days when someones instigating me I seem to be able to walk away, but it will be on my mind a lot. I can't seem to let it go and how I express the anger is two ways: I write poetry or if I get destructive I break something and kick shit around. I haven't been going out in society lately because I fear that I might not be able to control my anger when someone pisses me off and I could make a mess of it. I don't know if I'm dealing with this the right way.

 

The symptoms you described in the last post are traits common in Bi Polar Disorder and Social Anxiety Disorder. Rather than simply pushing medication, Psychotherapy is needed (Cognitive behavioral therapy in particular) to learn to control these behaviors.

Repeatedly washing hands, checking door locks and faucets, counting, ordering/arranging, etc. are all symptoms of Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

 

I don't think Social Anxiety Disorder is a clinical term yet is it?

Also, I don't see anything bi-polar about this behavior; sounds mostly like depression.

There is OCD and OCPD, OCPD is a personality disorder, where your personality exhibits obsessive compulsive traits, while OCD is a behavior disorder.. I haven't been to school in soooo long I am starting to forget some shit...

 

i agree w/ epiphany. mental illness can b really hard! i have obsessive compulsive disorder and it plain out sux. if u want u can email me or im me. i no wut its like man ur not alone.

 

bi-polar is where someone has two poles. also the common name manic-depression. some days i'm depressed and i feel worthles, useless, suicidal, etc. that's the downer pole. there are positive and negative traits of mania. some of the positivity is laughing a lot (psychotic), friendliness, sociable. i'm not going to list the negativity because i don't want to get judge or flamed. if u want to know pm me and i'll tell you privately.

 

Yea, bi meaning two, polar meaning poles heh.. at one end is mania while at the other end is depression. There are actually two types of bi-polar, the first one with the extremes of both mania and depression, the second with only the extreme of depression, but still with some mania. This means that for people with bi-polar #1, there is no 'in-between' in their moods. I hope I didn't mix up the numbers on there, someone correct me if I did. I dropped out a while ago, and I smoke mad pot... it's easy to forget unused knowledge.

As you said, you didn't really wanna get into the details, which is probably why I didn't notice anything you described really resembling mania.

 

well mania is feeling hyper and at times you can want to do something destructive. My social worker was describing some negative traits of mania such as a persons moral can change. i'd have to be around ya so you could observe me. do you read psychology or own the dsm. the dsm can explain it a lot better than i can. it has all the disorders in there. some of them are pretty wild in my opinion.

 

Yea, I was a psychology major, I have shitloads of notes that are basically copies of the pages in the DSM with the qualifications for diagnosis from this one class that was heavily about the DSM. But like everything else I do, I started college and did not motivate myself to finish.

In one of the above posts I asked if "Social Anxiety Disorder" was a clinical term yet, cause one of my professors used to always bitch about those commercials throwing around that term, because it wasn't in the DSM. Anyone know if it is now or what?

 

I'm not sure. I don't know too much about Social Anxiety Disorder. i just got into psychology. The only disorders I know a lot about are schizophrenia, bi-polar, and antisocial personality disorder.

 

From what I know psychologists are using the term more often now.

By the way, it's never too late to finish school, even if you think it is. Instead of depending on a job that may end up in India or China in a few years, you could be counseling people with drug problems or doing some kind of research on drugs. The pay wouldn't be too bad either.

 

Dude, you went to the roo by yourself? You should have said something, I'm sure you could have found someone to go with, if not even to go with to meet up with down there and get funky.

Anywho, I know a kid who has anxiety in social situations like that too, he gets very sick to his stomach when a girl talks to him, or when he is at a party with lots of people. It's almost like the mental health field is trying to label everything as an illness; this just sounds like anxiety to me.

Obviously the problem exists, but I don't know why they're trying to label a symptom as a disease. Last I heard they were thinking about adding "Internet Addiction Disorder" and some other laughable ones to the DSM...

Yea, I might go back, but I hate school. I had psychology as a second major but went from computer science to writing as my first. I mostly took psychology classes instead of doing all my prereq's.. None of it even matters cause I just stopped going and probably have either all incompletes or all F's. I get bored really easily, and I think the school being filled with goofy preps probably added to me hating it.

 

What is considered an illness or not is somewhat arbitrary. I don't consider myself "sick," just not as adapted as most to society. I suspect that extreme shyness might have served humankind some survival function: perhaps every tribe had the introvert who sat and thought up ideas or served as a peacemaker. It's interesting that people with my psychology type come in all races and ethnic groups, despite the different environments and cultures all over the world.

The truth is you can label anything as an illness; human society as it currently stands is an artifact of the last few decades, and civilization has been around for maybe 10,000 years, whereas evolution has been going on for millions of years.

 

I hate school too, but I realize that this society is heavily biased and I had to mold myself somewhat. The trick to make it through school is to develop good reading habits; if you are already reading a lot on your own you have what it takes to make it through psychology for sure.

Psychology is not that difficult; it's only when you go on to graduate school that they make you write a lot.

I will be honest with you and say I am not really interested in my majors (I am a double major student). But I did learn some interesting things along the way: my logical skills are a little sharper (especially with the new concepts I learned), my mind is a little more curious, and my self-confidence is up.

Think of all of those poor souls with HPPD or whatever fuck ups because of drugs who don't get sympathy from the medical establishment. Think of the research you can do and the greater audience you will impact if you make it through the mainstream at first.

 

you can't control mental illness people, been there done that, it only works so long then it comes back and bites you in the ass. Meds and therapy seems to be the only thing that has only worked for me and many people i know.

 

OCPD does not involve obsessions and compulsions (as OCD) but it is a personality pattern that involves a preoccupation with rules, schedules, and lists, similar to OCD.

Yes, Social Anxiety Disorder is the techincal term. It is located in the DSM-IV.

 

Uh oh.

 

I never said obsessions and compulsions were involved- those are behavioral problems. I specifically pointed out that OCD is a behavioral disorder while OCPD is a personality disorder, exhibiting "obsessive-compulsive traits" :

"a personality pattern that involves a preoccupation with rules, schedules, and lists, similar to OCD. "

Owell whatever, isn't the term in the dsm just a social phobia? I don't have access to one anymore. :-(

 

I never stated that you did. I was just making a clarification on this thread because you happened to mention it.

 

O ok, sorry for the misinterpretation ;-)