"fake" lsd

Someone I know is selling hits of blotter that he claims to be lsd. It takes three hours to trip, and when you do, it last for up to twenty hours. I was wondering if there are any rcs that would fit onto one blotter hit. I can't figure out if this is lsd or something else. I am thinking a research chem. but i dont know. thanks.

 

If it truly does last 20 hours with ONE hit of blotter, it is probably dragonfly...

 

what is the chemical name of dragonfly? I don't really know anything about it. But everyone that I had talked to said they tripped hard, and it took a while before it hit. I'm kinda weary of purchasing it, im trying to get some white blotter, but all he has is this shit for right now.

 

bromo-dragonfly is (1-(8-bromobenzo[1,2-b;4,5-b']difuran-4-yl)-2-aminopropane


The dose is 100ug to 300ug per hit

There's a mention of it here too>
Scroll down to the 16th post.
http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92236&page=2&pp=10

and at this site>
http://www.bluelight.nu/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=204996&perpage=25&pagenumber=1
cheers

 

I have see 1.5 mg hits of DOI on 1/4 inch paper hits

 

More on "bromo-dragonfly" (God, I HATE these "cutsey" street names for these things! ) here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromo-DragonFLY

 

The actual hit itself tastes really bitter too; if that gives anyone any idea. One substance that i thought of is 5-me0-AMT. But I'm not really to positive if a active dose could fit on a blotter. These blotters are smaller than I have ever seen before. A cupple friends have taken them and said they have never tripped harder off of one hit of "acid" before.

 

Yes i know that Lsd is tasteless, that's why i am asking about the bitterness, i have never heard of it before, or tasted it on blotter.

 

Michael, no, you haven't. Drfly was discovered in 98.

 

Do you think it is a possibility that i have some?

 

Yes, I do, it's a possibility, but you never really know what you're getting with street drugs. If you take ONE hit of quarter inch blotter and trip for 20-24 hours, and the come up is 3-6 hours, it's probably drfly. You can't fit enough 5meo amt on a quarter inch hit to make you trip that long, but you can fit DO* on paper like that. So chances are its either drfly or like dom...

 

Yeah, LSD definitely has a certain flavor...comparable to the taste you get when you lick the positive end of a battery, IMO.

 

Learn something new everyday. I always figured it was the ink or some bs since a bunch of literature says LSD is tasteless and odorless when they were talking about the freebase.

 

In DARE they taught us that crack cocaine was odorless, but if you've ever been around someone smoking the shit you know that's BS.

 

hey man, where are u from and what does the blotter look like? i got the exact same shit, and that waht it did it took about 3 hours to kick in and lasted 18 hours. it comes in crazy waves that u think ur comin down and then bam, ur blasted again. weirdest thing is it was most intense in the last 5 hours of the trip, most visuals. besides that man, it was pretty foul, back ache, head ache, weak visuals and really easy to get caught up in that "im gonna be tripping forever" mindset, cuz it actually seems like it... i definitely was not at baseline even the next day.... i was told it was dragonfly, but it could have been another rc. the blotter was THICK, and a little bigger cut... it was black with little like blue lines i think and little pictures of some dude with blonde hair and sunglasses, and the back of it was dark blue.

 

really small hits, i have never seen any blotter this small, like half of a normal hit of lsd. the print was red frogs on one side, and on the other it made a dragonfly. Coincidence maybe? Yeah it definently comes in waves, but the viisuals are not weak at all. tripped pretty hard actually. The person i bought it from said it was a "different type" of lsd. Didn't quite buy that, so i am led to believe after some research that it is the infamous 'fly. personally i would much rather have some lsd though.

 

shouldn't one be able to tell the difference between real LSD and something like dragonfly? i mean, are the effects the exact same? i can tell mushrooms from acid--that's easy. but i've never done RCs--are they THAT similar to LSD that one may not even distinguish the difference?

 

The effects of most psychedelic drugs differ mainly in onset and duration. There was a study done back in the '50s or '60s where subjects experienced with all 3 drugs were given LSD, mescaline or psilocybin without knowing what they were given, and they were unable to detect any significant difference in effects.

If you notice a difference between psilocybin and LSD (beyond the onset and duration of effects), it is primarily because you KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TAKING, and subconsciously adjust your expectations accordingly.

 

that's interesting--the mind is obscenly powerful.

BUT

what about perceived differences in the visuals, for example. when i take mushrooms i almost never get detailed visuals--instead i see patterns and larger images on top of everything, it seems like the world is just being painted over. on LSD i'll see very intricate and vivid detail in even the most distant objects. also the body feeling: LSD feels very inside my head and my body feels a "buzzing" and wavy feeling whereas on mushrooms the body feels much more loose and less "invaded."

i understand that some of these things could be due to the mind, but i don't see how people could be given LSD as mushrooms and not notice the difference. older friends of mine who have eaten mescaline have said that the visuals are so distinct and beyond LSD--how could people not perceive this in the lab?

although, one interesting (personal) point:
i regularly eat acid at a certain spot on the beach of florida when i go surfing. then one time i ate mushrooms there instead of LSD. interestingly, the mushroom trip was MUCH more acid-like that i had ever perceived it to be, presumably because i had only experienced the beach previously on LSD, so my mind re-created the "LSD" scene through my mushroom experience (?). many of the acid-like visuals appeared on mushrooms. not surprisingly, it was the strongest and most incredible mushroom trip i've taken.

 

IMO, 450 mg's of mescaline doesn't hold a candle to ~500 mics of LSD. However, I definitely agree that different compounds produce different visual effects; I never make expectations of how one drug's going to "feel" before I try it, yet there's definitely a noticeable difference between the visuals on 2-CE vs. LSD, or on LSD vs. psilocybin, etc...I find LSD and mushrooms have the same general body buzz, but the bodyload on many of various recent designer drugs absolutely couldn't be mistaken for LSD or mushrooms, or even mescaline, for that matter...