Hey, I'm new here and I've got a question. I've heard a lot of negative things about datura but I've never heard why it's so bad. What are the the effects of datura and what is the substance that causes the trip? Thanks.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura.shtml after you read everything in the vault & grokked it fully, come back and ask another Q about jimson weed, mmmmmph? sheesh, i wonder if anybody has ever asked this question before... and i wonder if we can UTFSE... naaah...
Basically all you need to know about datura, or as people around here refer to it "the bomb diggity", is that it's a drug that some people have complained about before, but those people were most likely just pansies. There's really not much that can go wrong on a datura experience, and because of this I prefer to do it when im at school (helps me concentrate) or family functions. You can pick the plain old datura stramonium, but that stuff's only strong enough to give you a head buzz...and that's only if you eat like 4 pods worth of seeds. For a starting dose I recommend eating AT LEAST 5 of the large leaves from the "tree datura" variety (erowid should have more info on this). It takes about an hour to kick in, so what I usually do during this time is go for a nice relaxing drive. The best way I can describe the effects are a combination of MDMA, the body buzz of heroin, and the visuals of blotter about as good as orange sunshine. Well, have fun man...and be safe. There's a lot of bad information floating around these days...
No, there is nothing in the world that can compare to Datura. The kid who just compared Datura to MDMA and a bunch of other relative softies should not, in my view, be listened to. First, with a strong enough dose, Datura can be DEADLY.* When I took it in high school my skin actually turned green, and my lips had changed color. Second, Datura literally makes you into a schizophrenic. You are completely in a delirious state, and end up talking to inanimate objects or even plants as though they are people. You talk incoherently and people think you belong in jail or in some ward. Third, the hallucinations are not accompanied by profound spiritual revelations (IMO), since you are literally in a schizophrenic or quasi-schizophrenic state. You will brush your hair as if you have a comb or drink as if you have a soda when there is nothing in your hand. The plant makes you very thirsty, makes you behave irrationally, with no regard for social norms. And the hallucinations are very powerful. I am not talking kaleidoscopic color patterns or trails but you talking to people who are not really there in a totally incoherent manner yet who appear very vivid. To conclude, this is a drug to be avoided. Stick to safer psychedelics. This is a drug that is just plain not worth it. The potential costs far outweigh the benefits. *Numerous young people and adults have died from this poisonous plant. Potency, of course, varies by plant, which makes the experience like playing Russian roulette.
A pussy? Why? Because I have 1) a lack of Datura resources, 2) have other things readily available which seem much better than Datura, 3) have heard MANY more negative stories that FAR out way your measly one response, or because 4) I actually care about my body and am smart enough to not do something that potentialy dangerous? If that makes me a pussy then I guess everyone on this forum is a pussy except you. Seem logical? I really would expect more from someone five years older than me.
Hahaha, sounds like fun! When I'm sober people think I belong in some ward or jail. LOL So WHERE do you get ahold of this stuff anyway???
Paintballer, for a while I was in the same situation. I really wanted to try devils weed, after reading the teachings of Don Juan, which details the plant greatly. After a month of research, mostly on erowid, I came to a conclusion that this plant cant give anyone a good trip. For anyone looking to try datura or belladonna, dont. First off, the physical discomfort is unbearable, I read some kid had such bad dry mouth his tonsils began to bleed. Most people end up in the physch ward at the hospital. Plus it can last for like 2 or 3 days. Bad stuff...
Good post(s) LSDSeeker. Dautra is not something to fuck with. Please nobody listen to what RoBoWaLkEr said in his post.
Let me explain this like this; When your on Datura, lets say you ate a pods of seeds. You really don't know your hallucinating, when you are! you may think your talking with your buddy, who just entered the room. He may smoke a joint with you, too and You'll feel it! Believe me, been there. The only way you realize you had an hallucination is If something, some sound would distract you, away from the vision you are/where having. Now your taking on another vision, but you soon remember your friend, and the room you where just in. So you turn around to find your friend and the room gone! It's then that you realize your tripping. confusing indeed! You can also walk around outside thinking your going to the park and really you my be walking onto a freeway, and not know it!! thats why you need a trip setter with this one and keep out of the publics eye! Oh yeah; Water can not even come close to quenching the thirst and dryness Datura produces. Peace
The way I see it, what's the point? I took Datura as a teenager because I did not have access to acid. If I could choose of course I would have taken acid. I almost got arrested for rifling through a poor woman's beat up car, thinking I'd find something in there. Of course I had no clue what I was doing, and when the officer arrived I explained I meant to hurt nobody and told him I had smoked some weed that left me a bit crazy. I told him that if I really wanted to steal something I'd go to the mall or some store instead. He apparently had sympathy for me because he let me go, after threatening to detain me. I had a difficult time finding my way home, but eventually I reached it. When I did I was talking to plants and a relative of mine who wasn't even there. When my parents came home boy were they upset to see my intoxicated state! If you want to trip, do some acid. Datura may kill you or get you arrested.
I don't know about Robowalker. I've never known anyone who had a good experience with jimsonweed. It's fucking poison. I had a good friend, "Jim", who ate some seeds years ago. He ended up barricaded in his house. He called up the police and told them that space aliens were in his front yard, barbecuing his neighbors on giant grills. The cops were not amused, and showed up at his house with guns drawn. Jim ended up spending a couple weeks in a psych ward. He later told me that for a month, the only word he could read was "Pepsi". After that, he couldn't even smoke a joint without hallucinating. He ended up losing his wife and kids over it. A couple years ago he laid down on a railroad track.
A huge patch of it grows in a swampy area just up the street from my mom. She pointed it out to me and told me a story about some dumb kids who did it when she was in HS. They chewed a few seeds, got impatient and chewed a bunch more. Three or four of them had HORRIBLE days long trips, one ended up insane in a psych ward and one DIED. Don't screw around with this shit, it is powerful.