You're dreaming...

This is all your dream. Nothing more. There is no karma, god, or trees or people. They are all illusions. Even I am an illusion. Every dream I have or every waking experience is all just a dream.

It's a very powerful dream, and a very strong illusion.

The love and pain and fear and tremendous intensity of the places the dream take you are still just a dream.

You have already died many times. Even within this lifetime. Each time you die, you are reminded of the illusory nature of experience and existence, but you always forget. You make things up to come to terms with the experience and you try to cling on to the belief in reality you get stuck in a new spiral with memories holding you back.

You call these things spirit and God and Karma, but they are all illusions, just like the people in your life. They are all a part of your personality, your dream. Every death is a reminder, and even though you are still dreaming hypnotically, you will wake up from something. The wrong career, the wrong partner, or old negativity you weren't able to get rid of.

Facing your fears is metaphorically killing yourself. Death is the big fear, the one that keeps us on our toes all our life, so facing any fear is a metaphor of facing death. If you wake up from your fear of spiders, you have woken up from the small illusion that spiders are scary, and you are reborn as a new person.

Understanding the illusory nature of the dream is a step toward having a Lucid Dream, or becoming buddha, or knowing you are the god of your own dream, and all the pain and pleasure you give out is giving to the dream, and all the pain and pleasure you experience is self-inflicted by your psyche. Then you can follow the story of your life creatively, treating existence as an art form and surfing it right through.

There is no wrong or right, that's personal. The dream will keep you right, because it's your dream. Enjoy it...

 

the matrix has you! no i'm just kidding, but what happens when we wake up form that dream? and secondly, i don't think it's very much of a lucid dream; more of a controlled nightmare with periods of calm.

 

thinking that what each one of us are experiencing is an individual dream that is connected to every other dreamer located within the same universe is entertaining,
especially since that train of thought would lead you to believe that one day you, and possibly everybody else living in the same dream state of mind would eventually wake up and leave the reality of this 'dream world' behind.

nothing could feel more real .

 

MrFantasy

You have a good theory there, reminds me of this movie where some computer or somthing was making everything looks as though it wasnt.

Well i'm sorry to say i dont believe in that myself.
i believe that each person has there own life to lead, like an own road to follow, some people will take the normal life of getting a family and settiling for the normal job or some people take a spiritual path, and there are many other paths but i'm just going on here, lol but i believe that its not a dream everything is real and your own decsion on what you do.

Dont be trapped inside the thoughts of what is real and what is not, you can only tell yourself what is reality.

peace and love

 

Solipsistic, ehh? I've got a cure for you.

Hit yourself with a hammer. Tell yourself it is just a dream. Hit yourself again. Tell yourself it is just a dream. Hit yourself again. Keep repeating until you realise you are lying.

 

Here is a quote from Hobbes Leviathan:
The most difficult discerning of a mans Dream, from his waking thoughts,
is then, when by some accident we observe not that we have slept:
which is easie to happen to a man full of fearfull thoughts;
and whose conscience is much troubled; and that sleepeth,
without the circumstances, of going to bed, or putting off his clothes,
as one that noddeth in a chayre. For he that taketh pains,
and industriously layes himselfe to sleep, in case any uncouth and
exorbitant fancy come unto him, cannot easily think it other than a Dream.
We read of Marcus Brutes, (one that had his life given him by Julius
Caesar, and was also his favorite, and notwithstanding murthered him,)
how at Phillipi, the night before he gave battell to Augustus Caesar,
he saw a fearfull apparition, which is commonly related by Historians
as a Vision: but considering the circumstances, one may easily judge
to have been but a short Dream. For sitting in his tent, pensive and
troubled with the horrour of his rash act, it was not hard for him,
slumbering in the cold, to dream of that which most affrighted him;
which feare, as by degrees it made him wake; so also it must needs make
the Apparition by degrees to vanish: And having no assurance that he slept,
he could have no cause to think it a Dream, or any thing but a Vision.
And this is no very rare Accident: for even they that be perfectly awake,
if they be timorous, and supperstitious, possessed with fearfull tales,
and alone in the dark, are subject to the like fancies, and believe
they see spirits and dead mens Ghosts walking in Churchyards;
whereas it is either their Fancy onely, or els the knavery of such persons,
as make use of such superstitious feare, to pass disguised in the night,
to places they would not be known to haunt.

From this ignorance of how to distinguish Dreams, and other strong Fancies,
from vision and Sense, did arise the greatest part of the Religion of
the Gentiles in time past, that worshipped Satyres, Fawnes, nymphs,
and the like; and now adayes the opinion than rude people have of Fayries,
Ghosts, and Goblins; and of the power of Witches.

 

Now then must I say if all is an illusion whats the point of being in it. If I am an illusion than the illusion must be real. Because then all is real and illusion at the same time. So all is real except our preceptions so that blows your theory out of the water. Illusion if it is all then its real because the illusion is real.

 

sounds a little pesimistic...

 

The world is not an illusion it can bite you pinch you kill your beloved give you unspeakable sorrow and sublime bliss

alan

 

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I'm pretty sure that in Mysticism, life is a physical journey, and we are all spirits in a physical body. Therefore, this is not a dream, this is a physical life given to us to experience and grow with.

 

I think "This" is the collective "dream" we are tuning into.
Because we are really everything, everything is like a mirror. The illusion is the smoke in between preventing us from knowing that we are.

 

i've given this alot of thought in my life and the more i thought about it, the more the words "reality" and "dream" have become synonymous. to say this is all a dream, to me, doesn't mean that it isn't also reality, so i prefer to say that my dreams are real. this one, the ones i have when sleeping and the ones i will continue to have when i leave this place.

 

If you're going to call the idea of what God is an illusion then the same applies to what a Dream is and to what an Illusion is. Basically, there is no sense in speaking for one who doesn't want to lie about what reality/the dream is. We converse to alter the dream, but that doesn't mean that what we're saying makes perfect sense.

But you're in reality whether you speak or not, and it isn't any more or less real or illusory either way. Everything that exists is real and true for what it is: God, the Dream, the Illusion, the Reality.

But I agree that nothing really matters. I have wondered if the objects seen in dreams, if you could hold on long enough to study them, would seem to be made up of atoms.

 

a total dream, i agree...but ý disagree that there is no god or celestial being... i believe there is "nothing but god."..we dream that we come to "being"....but as the great sufis say " there is no universe, merely a scenary where the only being performs his existance"....the subject is god and the object is god..we just perceive as if we exist , as if other ppl exist...if one can exhaust his being, then there remains the only being "god"...the curtain over our eyes is our "self" perception, our being a "self"...the only "self" is god...one can only realize it when he gets rid of himself. then, the percieving one is also god, in other words,one percieves by means of god when he gives up his very limited means.. a very delicate subject, can easily be understood like pantheism.but it isn't. pantheism says everything is god. sufis say; nothing is god but nothing is out of god. he is closer to everything than everything. he does not resemble anything, also his being close is not like the being close of anything...anyway.... long subject...i may go on later.

 

if this were true and you sincerely believed it, in theory you would have supernatural powers or the ability to do as you please not unlike lucid dreaming. "The Matrix" is a movie based on this philosophy

 

perhaps it is our perpetual internal dialogue that keeps us glued to this particular dream's drama.

perhaps the "effort" or "time" that it seems to take to continuously remain inwardly silent is too much for most of us.

there seems to be an enormous amount of collected data from various cultures throughout history that implies we are on some lower, or middle level of consciousness and that the "gods" and "prophets" of our past were the ones who let us in on that "truth".

lucidity may be attributed with the ability to willfully alter the world around us; to create new worlds, new dreams...

 

he chose the red pill!

 

this shit is wierd, all of it. im goin to sleep.

 

It's not the Dream itself, but the ability to dream. We came to experience, to feel, to breath in this 3 dementional plane. We came into the physical to be physical. We came to feel emotion and we came to experience love in the flesh. We are not illusion we are flesh and bone. We are tangible. We are part of a bigger existence then what we imagine ourselves to be.

There has to be thought to imagine/dream, where/how are we forming thought into matter unless we are real. We have to have a base for thought to arise..

We are Spirits enjoying the flesh as a vacation, When the vacation is over we go home. We can come back if we want or go to another demention and vacation.

A vacation to Spirit is a lifetime in the physical but just a small amount of time in the Universe. There is no death only returning from which you came.