Fallen Angels (this is the correct thread.. deleted other)

Discussion in 'The Whiners' started by Orsino2, Jun 24, 2004.

  1. Orsino2

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    Why must people act differently​
    When they are just the same​
    They always act like someone else​
    And putting themselves to shame​
    They care about only themselves​
    And never help any others​
    I'm sick of seeing this arrogance​
    Of betraying their own brothers​
    Whatever happened to humanity​
    To that little shred of innocence​
    There are few people out there left​
    To fill the empty abscence​

    How would you like me my friend​
    If I was at the bottom of a pond​
    Would you even care my friend​
    If I was in the great beyond​
    What would you ever do if I was​
    On the edge of a cliff my friend​
    Would you ease and comfort me​
    Or just sit and watch my life end​

    Someday you'll find everything you're looking for​
    Surely, Dubyas had his fun​
    Declaring war on an innocent nation​
    Wars are never won​
    Yes, that's right el presidente​
    You did complete one task​
    But as far as I can see​
    Your reputation's metaphorical ass is grass​
    History surely is a mystery​
    This is the dawning of a new age​
    And as far as I can see, we've ruined our blank new page​

    How would you like me my friend​
    If I was at the bottom of a pond​
    Would you even care my friend​
    If I was in the great beyond​
    What would you ever do if I was​
    On the edge of a cliff my friend​
    Would you ease and comfort me​
    Or just sit and watch my life end​

    I'm sick of the world and its people​
    They act like they're exceptional​
    Nobody can be trusted anymore​
    No one ever enjoys being loyal​
    Nobody actually cares​
    They never help you through​
    Your troubles or nightmares​
    This world has gone down​
    Down deeper than hell​
    I feel like i'm the only one​
    That's trapped in this shell​

    How would you like me my friend​
    If I was at the bottom of a pond​
    Would you even care my friend​
    If I was in the great beyond​
    What would you ever do if I was​
    On the edge of a cliff my friend​
    Would you ease and comfort me​
    Or just sit and watch my life end​

    What is the point of living anymore​
    When nobody cares that you're alive​
    The only reason I'm still here​
    Is to help my closest friends survive​
    Nobody else wants to care for them​
    And I am trapped on this lonely world​
    Nobody gives a damn about anyone​
    All this pain and agony is swirled​

    How would you like me my friend​
    If I was at the bottom of a pond​
    Would you even care my friend​
    If I was in the great beyond​
    What would you ever do if I was​
    On the edge of a cliff my friend​
    Would you ease and comfort me​
    Or just sit and watch my life end​

    And they fall once again​
    Yes my sweetest friend​
    And they fall once again​
    As they do now and then​

    How would you like me my friend​
    If I was at the bottom of a pond​
    Would you even care my friend​
    If I was in the great beyond​
    What would you ever do if I was​
    On the edge of a cliff my friend​
    Would you ease and comfort me​
    Or just sit and watch my life end​


    ~ George ​
     
  2. VanAstral

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    I'm sorry that is your view of people... most of them are really pretty cool.
     
  3. Orsino2

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    "Cool" and compassionate/caring are two different matters. Cool is merely an opinion. Yes, this is my view of many people, on the whole. I've been trying to work in this thing for like three hours... lmao. I haven't gone to bed yet and it's 6:00 am.
     
  4. VanAstral

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    well, semantics: my definition of cool includes compassion/caring. If you were drowning I would save you, and so would any one of my friends. you're exposing yourself to too much controversy. people act differently because we're very different. this arrogance you see could be your lack of accepting others views. you want everyone to be the same? you should surround yourself with better people and less controversy.
     
  5. Orsino2

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    Fact is, nobody ever understands what the hell i'm trying to say and it may be more on the comprehensive part. No. I've always wanted people to be different. I tell people this all the the time. Diversity, diversity, diversity. You may not be seeing it as deep into the average person as I am. It's that people have so much in common and people following these bullshit trends. Even this nonconformist crap, it's all a damn trend. But of course, everything is a trend in one way or another, but by trend, I mean a deep trend. I mean hippie, stoner, goth, grunger, prep, townie, wigger, wanker, catholic bible thumping conservative republican, southern fried conservative working man republican, the ku klux klan, the international chop off our penises and worship Martha Stewart cult. Get what i'm saying? Everyone is a cookie cutter copy. Not as an ethnic background. But just who they behave, listen, act upon certain situation.. (again, this ties to behavior), hobbies, automobile, music genres, what kind of clothes they where. This all defines a person but that really isn't what I am trying to get into. Yes... I know, if someone was drowing, would you save them. I'd do my best, but the one time I did try to do, I jumped off of a fishing pier with the pier manager dude who I hung out with there and both of us got sucked over a sandbar and out with a rip current........ nobody came to save us though.... but if they did try to, they might end up being in the darwin awards. Anywho, aside from drowning, I wasn't really talking about that. I was mostly poking at simpler things... I just think people are too damn insensitive. When I state all of this, I do mean overall, people just couldn't give a shit about some things. That's like someone who is too lazy to register or too lazy to care to get their sorry ass up and to the voting booth. I respect and accept the opinions of people, but what I am talking about is much more complex than accepting a simple opinion or belief. Just because someone has a theory, belief, opinion, or ideal, doesn't make them a genius, nor does it make them an idiot, but that doesn't mean they aren't full of shit. Look at all the typos... lmao. Falling asleep... :p

    ~ George
     
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    one of my best friends is clearly a facist. He believes that all weak people should die, all stupid people should be like slaves to the «real people». Like you, he says all the time he's sick of people. All the time, saying life sucks, life's a shit, people are so ridiculous, whatever.
    He's very intelligent. He's 15, and he has read the Antychrist, Mein Kampft by Hitler and he probabily knows more about the II World war and facism than her history teacher.


    At first I admired how he held those ideas that well, that knowledge. So I started reading and reading... I realised that he can't call stupid to people and saying that «them» (the superior people) must me sacred. I realized he has no fucking right, just like me, to say that that's good and that's bad. I discovered that we must love and respect everybody, even if they hate us.
    I read about Jesus. We talked about Jesus. And then I discovered he was simply a maniac (not kidding). He'd continuily believe in his facts forever and not to give oportunities to people he calls «stupid», even if I presented the real facts about these people. He now doesn't give a fuck about that.
    He continues that hating has for the world. He's dream is dystroing it. I talked about happiness and giving happiness to people. He said he wants to give happiness to people, by killing them. He sometimes says he's happy. But he is, for sure, one of the most unhappy people in this world. Everyday he says life sucks. Everyday he says he wants to kille everything he sees. He says it gives him power. I called him coward; because he only gets happy when he kills something; wich is not even true!

    He doesn't believe in drugs, optimism, he says it's just an illusion. I said, thanks to those illusions, i'm one of the happiest guy in the world, and that that helps me understand and face reality. He calls me a dreamer, sometimes a junkie (I don't even do drgus, just pure tobacco once in a while, and I don't like alcohol).

    Do you know he's still my friend? Because he says I'm special, I'm superious like him; he says I will change someday. I allways say: Never. I'd prefer being one of those «loosers» you call, and still being happy. He says «whatever»...

    Please, don't be like this guy. Believe me, it won't bring you anything good.
     
  7. VanAstral

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    Fact is, nobody ever understands what the hell i'm trying to say and it may be more on the comprehensive part.

    (I know why.. maybe, of course: It’s because you’re all over the place. Let me show you…

    You start on one idea, (diversity and stereotypes) then say, “that really isn't what I am trying to get into.” Okay…

    Then you start on another idea (drowning metaphor), and then say “I wasn't really talking about that.” Okay…

    Then you start with the “simpler things” paragraph, which ironically is the most confusing bit... all over the place on that one. You continue...

    I've always wanted people to be different. I tell people this all the the time. Diversity, diversity, diversity. You may not be seeing it as deep into the average person as I am. (that’s kinda condescending) It's that people have so much in common and people following these bullshit trends. Even this nonconformist crap, it's all a damn trend. But of course, everything is a trend in one way or another, but by trend, I mean a deep trend. I mean hippie, stoner, goth, grunger, prep, townie, wigger, wanker, catholic bible thumping conservative republican, southern fried conservative working man republican, the ku klux klan, the international chop off our penises and worship Martha Stewart cult. Get what i'm saying? (Sure…there’s a group for everyone. Individuality is dead. Every personality has been identified.) Everyone is a cookie cutter copy. (people deep down want to relate to something – being defined is really a good thing, it means your exist - it sounds as if you have a problem with stereotypes) Not as an ethnic background. But just who they behave, listen, act upon certain situation.. again, this ties to behavior, hobbies, automobile, music genres, what kind of clothes they where. (yes it does)

    This all defines a person but that really isn't what I am trying to get into.

    Yes... I know, if someone was drowing, would you save them. I'd do my best, but the one time I did try to do, I jumped off of a fishing pier with the pier manager dude who I hung out with there and both of us got sucked over a sandbar and out with a rip current........ nobody came to save us though.... but if they did try to, they might end up being in the darwin awards. (they're funny)

    Anywho, aside from drowning, I wasn't really talking about that.

    I was mostly poking at simpler things... I just think people are too damn insensitive.

    ( I agree. Easily observed in the forums) When I state all of this, I do mean overall, people just couldn't give a shit about some things. (they only care if it concerns them, yes) That's like someone who is too lazy to register or too lazy to care to get their sorry ass up and to the voting booth. (is your beef with people who don’t vote?) I respect and accept the opinions of people (you don’t come off that way toward omnivores), but what I am talking about is much more complex than accepting a simple opinion or belief. (expound… we won’t understand if you can’t tell us what you’re on about) Just because someone has a theory, belief, opinion, or ideal, doesn't make them a genius, nor does it make them an idiot, but that doesn't mean they aren't full of shit. (sure, aren’t we all full of shit?)

    I think the problem is that you don’t know enough people. At your age you simply haven’t had the chance to meet many people. Not til college will you meet people with the same interests... the same life-long interests, which are different from teenage interests. Over the net like this you might, and probably will, meet like-minded individuals, but conversing on a keyboard is way different than talking in person... few people can communicate effectively. So if this is this case, do nothing about it, because it sounds as though you're doing too much as it is. 14 comes once, get stoned and get laid while you're young and good looking, don't waste it on existentialism. Act like you're pursuing a music career... it just might happen, dream come true, no more worries aye.
    And maybe eat more meat.
     
  8. VanAstral

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    I try not to go to bed until I've hugged a fascist... it's a daily agenda thing.
     
  9. acetonephish

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    Yes, destroy all your brain cells and contract sexually transmitted diseases. Yeehaw! Y'know, so you can have a fun childhood.
     
  10. VanAstral

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    Oh phishy, not you again...
    I have made an honest attempt, and provided your friend with a semi-intelligent reply, advising that youth is a time to satisfy your desires, a series of enjoyments... I’ll tell you what freedom is, it’s being your age, living in a prosperous nation. Enjoy it.
    You, phishy, bore me. Your conduct is mean, you deject diversity. Talk of wisdom is a source of confusion and denial, unless it agrees with your narrow agenda. You don’t think, you'll never be wise, your course of life is one to be ashamed. May you live forever in perpetual fear and uncertainty. You need serious meat.

    and arsenio... stereotypes dissolve in numbers. you know, or are bombarded with, an easily identifiable number of people. but in 10 years, if you move around, you'll find that it's harder to identify... maybe that means individuality is not dead.
    (i hope we're talking 'bout the same thing... ha!)
     
  11. Orsino2

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    You seem to appear to be in need of a steaming hot cup of shut the fuck up. I love you van astral (that name reminds me of vasectomy)

    Aside from that, :p (whee... I felt good when I said that... yay.. self esteem boost, watch it drop... aaaaah... there it goes, anywho)... you can define prosperous any which way you please. But it's the simple, yet, not often so simple, yet, still simple to most people type of things that matter. Stereotypes dissolve in numbers, but I could care less about stereotypes. I care about people. I have moved around quite a bit and know that there are good people out there. I just thing the world is full of shit

    And no, I am not a facist. Nor am I a homosexual or a German or an Austrailian nor do I drive a pimpmobile.

    I mean. I IS JUST KEEPIn IT FO REAL HOMIEEEEEEEEES.

    I love the world.
    I dislike the people.
    Some people, that is.
    I find some people who I like.
    And by the way.

    You,van sectomy, flatter me in the most ignorant way possible. Your conduct shows your ignorance and utter jackassiveness, you deject stupidity. Talk of semi-intelligence is a source of metrosexuality that is concealed within never to be revealed and the sign of an abnormally large ego and an abnormally small groinal region organ apperatus thingamabob, unless it agrees with your narrow criminal mind. You have never thought, you never will be able to sense differences between apples and bananas, your life is already one to be ashamed. You will live forever in perpetual motion in the ocean and . You need a salad. If you have a grudge against anyone I relate to, be prepared to make myself look like a babooshka. I have been up for 29 hours Geoff!!!! 29 hours!!! With a layover in D/FW!!!! I lost my baggage. I lost my baggage Geoffrey. Now i'm late with my meeting with Prometheus and Jonathon and my limo hasn't arrived. Someone get me a bottle of Evian before I blow!!!
     
  12. acetonephish

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    Couldn't drink the henny straight, I needed somethin to chase. Buy my glock used, wit bodies on it, let me know anybody want it? Tight classy on the wrist. Now that I got too popular to cop them pies and I'm asking my dog for advice so when he can't say shit. I'm the focal, point like Biggie in his prime, except at the bar alchoholing her up. And baby girl if it's Hammer time, then hide your toes. The fuck y'all thinking?? Can you feel me growing baby?

    Wazza. I ran to the spot, store to add some more features to my phone
    to see if I had bugs and leeches on my phone. Get fly, let em defy gravity. You likely to see Jigga in a widebody. Put his ass in the studio, let him cook up a cake. Now what I look like? Givin a chick half my trap. Jigga, nine-seven shit, next millenia. Chick faked me one-two cat. Did you know about the crabs in the barrow.

    BLAOW!
     
  13. Fractual_

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    i'll say it again











    your stupid
     
  14. acetonephish

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    psst, druggy boy. The correct spelling is "you're." It is a contraction from the two words "you" and "are." Your is used to show possessiveness.
     
  15. Orsino2

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    I could not drink the alcoholic beverage as straight liquor. I needed something to wash the straight liquor down with. I have a classified ad out on my Glock which has been fired several times. People contact for more info. I have a fine watch on my wrist. Now I am a celebrity and can get away with pieing cops and I am asking my shih-tzu for personal advice so when he is not able to speak. I am a self centered bastard. Like Biggie during his most famous phase of his career, except while at the public intoxication house trying to get women drunk for his advantage. And young woman, if it is time to commence and engage in sexual intercourse, then hide your groinal region. What must you be thinking. Do you see my erection?

    Good day sir, I ran to the cellular phone store to upgrade my cellular telephone and calling plan service. Pay $20,000,000 to visit the international space station, let them engage in physically defying the gravity of the Earth's atmosphere and surface. Would you care to see a gigalo in a large car? Let him produce a studio recorded album, let him attempt to create a best selling record. Look at me, i'm not a woman, i'm Michael Jackson. Giving my fellow female ex-spouse alimony and child support. Gigalo, uh oh.. that was a police code for I think, prostitution, let's speed away in my Mazda Millenia. The woman faked it 12 times!!!!. Did you know she has crabs?

    !WOALB
     
  16. Kitaro

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    You racist. Shut up and don't criticize them; you're just like them. AREN'T you?
     
  17. Orsino2

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    I know! That's just like what I was talking about.
     
  18. Kitaro

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    Lol, another troublemaker. Go smoke some pot, and then come back here. To see if you get a little happier, heh?
     
  19. Fractual_

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    i'll say thisagain too actetone:

    the map is not the territory, so get off of the fucking linguistics, it is incredibly dumb. really man, as most of us all probably(and hopefully) know, you have nothing to say, no argument, nothing, at all.

    and you can't call me druggy boy since i don't smoke pot anymore, although i did eat some mescaline(which grows naturally upon this planet) last night :D so yeah, i probably won't be doing any more drugs for a while.
     
  20. acetonephish

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    actually, I had a great point to make. People who have done drugs, or currently do drugs, have fewer brain cells than those who havent allowed toxic shit to enter their bodies.
     
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