Christianity for Retards

Aint that the truf. Sharing is caring.

 

yeah, like i think some of the stuff in ergards to your first post, may have been a little bit of flammig [the retard part, and the cartoon] and then possibly in a few of your posts where you state things as fact, and not opinion, but other than that, its just really strongly opinionated stuff...i dont claim to know a lot about much stuff in many religions and whatnot, thats why i usually stick to trying to keep things a little bit civil...

 

l00t and plunder... give me your booty.

 

What a fun thread.

 

Some of you people truly shock me.

Perhaps the title was of poor choice, however, I do beleive it was posted with the intention to debate/whatever and not to antagonise.

I get the general idea that some people think that you may only post in this forum if it isn't something negative about Christianity. If you are sure about your beliefs then you shouldn't worry about something negative being posted.
If it is about Christianity, it goes in this forum..no where else.

I find it highly irritating, and I can imagine others finding so too, when people argue with "Then again, you've never had a covenant, so who can blame your poor soul and dead spirit?" and "Because we know it's true."
To me this is extremely arrogant, and it really does piss me off to have a 15 year old, or anyone of any age for that matter, act like they are superior because they follow a certain religion, and then go "boo hoo you don't like my religion and you posted something that discredits it! you meanie!"

And then you go and bash Catholics because you think their churches are "boring" and "no presence of the holy spirit". Who the hell do you think you are to pass judgement and then condemn others for doing the same?

It is a trend I've noticed with many Christians I have spoken to. Some bitch about Anglicans, some bitch about Protestants, about Catholics, etc etc. All bitching about each other and saying that they are wrong because of bla and bla. Well get stuffed is what I say. Can't even get along within your own religion, and you are suprised when you don't get along with those outside of your religion.

Get a reality check


I suppose I should expect a flame or something along the lines of "you haven't been touched by the holy spirit or save by jesus". Whatever, I don't care. If it brings you personal satisfaction and an increased e-ego then by all means..

 

Judge not, lest ye be judged.

Thou shalt not kill.

 

You should make a thread out of that.

 

waitaminute....???

when someone has an article or something to say pertaining to christianity, whether pro- or anti-christian, it clearly belongs in the christianity forum.

this forum is not a church; those who post here do so because they are interested in discussing the christian religion.

i have posted many times here and i am most certainly not a christian, but i find the discussions very interesting as my environment is indisputably a christian one, having been born in the west and raised among a dominantly christian-identified community. a large number of my friends and acquaintances are christian, as well as family members. articles pertaining to the christian faith are therefore interesting to me, and it seems obvious that i would look for them in the appropriate forum.


by the way, i found the article amusing, mui... sort of cringed at the title, but it discussed a lot of good points.

peace,
sophia

 

I am not Christian, but I respect them enough to say that they are just as smart, and just as correct, with a real, true, valid faith that is no better nor worse than mine. The whole 'joke' is just plain insulting and disrespectful. It is not more acceptable to diss Christians than any other group. Try posting a similar thing about Judaism, Islam, or about African Americans.... then you might see that the whole motivation and tone of it is unkind, derogatory, and rude.
imho.

 

yes, i do agree, blackguard.... and in truth, any article that intends to portray some kind of intelligence loses credibility as soon as it lowers itself to petty insults and displays that kind of sweeping disrespect. the article posted, no matter how many interesting points it brought up, would probably have gained respect and discussion had it have displayed more cool & consideration.


sophia

 

With 'no presence of the Holy Spirit' I meant 'boring' and well...'dead'.
Most of them are, they're very old-fashoned and modest there. HOWEVER, there are so-called 'charesmatic(sp.?) catholics' which are more up-to date, and not as old-fashioned.

And I don't pass judgment upon fellow christians that bash protestantism, including catholics/orthodox, as long as they're saved it's good.

Christianity got a bad rep. among youths nowadays because they think it's 'boring', that's because christianity's often diplayed 'boring' thanks to thinking all churches are like catholic churches.

And with 'poor spirit and dead soul' I was basically saying it the way God sees it. poor soul (mind,will, and emotion) because of disbelief, and 'dead spirit' ( connection with God and relationship with him) because your spirit's DEAD until you get saved from sin.
Hey, I was just combining the things the Bible says in one sentence!
Yeah, I knew you wouldn't get it the first time.

Nightmarehippygirl: I already reacted to something like that in one of the previous posts...

This thread's getting old...
I'm surprised that it's still alive. We've come far off topic.

 

i think the catholic church is exciting, and quite non-boring...the only reason i think lots of the services [if you are even mentioning that] is that the servieces are just naturally long, not to mention they say/sing basically every thing 3 times [to represent the trinity] ...well at least at the wedding services i have attended...

i love the Ukrrainian passage for "Lord have mercy", specially fun when sung 3 times

 

Well...it's true that they sing nice psalms...but it's really hard to understand a word the Pastor says...that's mostly the boring part.

 

thats the best part...singing everything 3 times in Ukranian and just the grand scale of everything, and the staunch devotion to what they are taught [though i think lots of it is poorly taught] really inspires me

 

ryupower, I would rather burn in hell than spend the rest of eternity in heaven with someone as condescending and insulting as you! People like you are one of the reasons I will NEVER subscribe to a religion as I feel my mind will be twisted into thinking I am better than other people.

I am quite happy with my "dead" soul thank you, I am an extremely happy person who lives a good life. I don't need you are anyone else to tell me I do otherwise.

I am glad you are the way you are, it reminds people like me why it is best to steer clear of organised religion and gods who are portrayed poorly. I am in your debt, thank you very much.

Have a nice day!

 

It may be me, but this article addresses the bible as the entirety of the Christian faith. The bible is/was a tool meant to give people a guideline as to how to live. The bible wasn't written by one person, but by several people spanning several hundred years. The messages that were/are in the bible may not be the clearest and may seem to contradict one another in places, but the authors were trying to verbalize the inspiration that they felt from God at a time of brutality and darkness. You can't really fault them for not knowing how to completely express concepts that were totally foreign during the time period. It is true that the original works were interpreted incorrectly as there were often no words in the European languages that had the exact meaning given in the Hebrew text. For example, the Hebrew word maiden was translated incorrectly to virgin giving way to one of the largest misunderstandings in history. King James had his own alterations to make because the bible was being read more and more by the masses (improved education) and the church was losing influence. The point that I'm trying to make here is that if you're going to pick the bible apart, you need to quote the original hebrew text, and if you do quote the original text, remember that it wasn't written by God...it was written by man. Several men, and believe it or not the sentiment felt when touched by God can hardly be expressed in words. They were doing the best that they could.
Just as a side note to the original post. God didn't kill his only son, nor did he allow his son to be killed. If Jesus had wanted to avoid the crucifixion, he could have very easily. He was/is an enlightened being not bound to the laws of this physical world. Jesus allowed himself to be crucified, not for our sins, because Jesus did not preach sin. Jesus preached love and acceptance. The entire point of the crucifixion wasn't to guilt trip people into "being good", love and integrity comes from within. Not from a guilt trip. The point of the crucifixion wasn't the crucifixion at all, it was the resurrection. When he resurrected Lazarus, he sought to show his followers that death is an illusion. The body is just a vessel for the soul that is eternal. Lazarus wasn't the only person that he brought back though. In his life, Jesus was responsible for healing and saving many thousands of people. When he allowed himself to be crucified, he was saying "Do what you will to my body, for my body is the illusion.

Despite many references in the bible that seem to be threats and warnings, the teachings of Christ were of love. True Christianity and the bible conflict in many places, but again, for the time period they only had references of fear. I have met self proclaimed atheists that were better Christians than those attending church regularly, and I've met people that attend church regularly who had the faintest idea what Christ stood for. For those people in church...at least they were trying. To the atheists, they will know God one day. They are mostly angry at the churches that abuse the power given to them by their followers and are reacting to the church, not to God.

Peace, love, freedom. Chose as you feel inspired in your heart, don't worry, Jesus loves you...even if your priest, preacher, etc... dosen't.

 

Kid, you better go back and reread your Bible, I think you missed a few points.
Because we nolonger have those sexual taboos, we got Aids spreading all over the Earth which is killing men, woman, and children by the millions. But it's great how inlightened we are now, now that we don't have those taboos. Boy, we sure showed God what stupid laws he wrote about not sleeping around.
Oh and about the Jews not being Gods choosen people. If you even had a clue about Bible prophecy, you would of understood that when Christ came to this world the prophecies stated in the Old Testament that His own people would reject Him. But then you would of had to of read the Bible to know that. But why do that, when you can just shoot your mouth off about something you know nothing about.
And I think their is a little more to the flood story than you could possibly understand. But who cares, facts are not important to you anyway, right.

The 144,000 have nothing to do with the number of creation going to heaven, but who cares, just throw it out there anyway. Facts aren't important.
And those retards you talk about. Many of them are the one's who are going over seas to give their life, and to help the poor and down trodden of this world. And we need them more than ever, now that we don't have those stupid sexual taboos.

 

campbell, what of the worth of women?

"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man;.... -1 Cor. 11:3."
"Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man -1 Cor. 11:9."
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husband, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife.... Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husband in every thing -Eph. 5:22-24."

you may be married. if so, does your wife submit herself to you? do you rule over her as god intended?

 

There are some husbands no wife in her right mind would ever consider submiting herself to. This law first of all is for a Married couples who are Christian and who's husbands truly love their wife. Second, it follows the trinity. The three in one God has three persons yet all have different rolls to play. Jesus was subject to His Father's will, yet this did not make Jesus less of a member of the Godhead. As far as my own family is concerned. Final decisions have been made by me from time to time, but I listen to my wife especially when her logic makes more sense then mine.

 

There is a kind way to make the point without being condescending. Regardless of his belief, or the manner he chooses to express it, the Bible was intended to convey love and brotherhood. When you respond with love instead of judgement a little might rub off.