anyone watch the Bush speech about Iraq tonite?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by shaggie, Jun 28, 2005.

  1. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    Thoughts? Comments?

    Sounded like the same rhetoric to me. Lots of references to 911 (about 3 in the first three minutes). I didn't listen to all of it.

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  2. I like harry reid but his response was weak....
     
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  4. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    Bush is getting great PR by holding it at Fort Bragg. There's a town hall meeting on MSNBC right now and everyone is supporting Bush. Just about everyone in the audience is a wife of a troop who supports Bush and the war. They even showed a pic of a troop who's a father holding his two little toddlers.

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  5. m6m

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    Mainstream America always bends-over for these ra-ra speeches.

    Mainstream America is a sucker for anyone who will flatter us that our motives are as pure as our snowy complexions.

    Religious Terrorists, Redskin Savages, anything that will convince us that we have a right, and even moral obligation, to invade and occupy other people's homeland.

    You want to see the true face of a global terrorist? Just look in the mirror!!

    Will we ever change? LOL, We're the same as ever!!

    The polls say we're against the war.
    That doesn't mean twat!!

    We're the same nation of cowards that voted for this guy to begin with.

    The same people who are going to let this guy ram this war up our asses for as long as he wants; just like the 10yrs of Vietnam.

    A nation of gut-less wonders.
     
  6. LickHERish

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    Actually it was 14 years of military engagement in Nam and 25 years in total counting the political wrangling that began with Truman.

    Our public, sadly, are by and large insulated misinformed sponges who soak up whatever they hear or read in the compliant media/press without any real clue of what is really going on in our name outside our shores. Can't learn from history when the PR flies thick and fast on a daily basis intended to keep the drones mindlessly beavering away to earn their pittance to spend at the mall.
     
  7. HuckFinn

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    I don't think Bush's tiresome stump speech is winning anybody over. If he would level with the public about past mistakes and future costs, he might actually convice people that "staying the course" is preferable to leaving Iraq in shambles, but continually insulting everyone's intelligence by invoking 9/11 as a rationale for this ill-conceived invasion will only further damage his already strained credibility.
     
  8. seamonster66

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    I completely agree with Huck Finn, maybe the second time thats happened;)

    One commentator refered to him "going to the well 1 too many times" regarding the 9/11 link. I think even the most trusting supporters of his must see through that by now.

    It didn't disagree with every single thing he said though, its logical that Iraq needs to be more secure prior to pulling the troops out. Nothing would be more cruel than bombing a country back into the stone age unprovoked, and then leaving them in the lurch.
     
  9. shaggie

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    Bush could invade and occupy any number of countries (Iran, Pakistan, etc) which would cause insurgents who are 'the likes of those who were responsible for 911'. It's an absurd argument, as it works for just about any invasion. :)

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    "The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human." -- Aldous Huxley
     
  11. sm0key42o8

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    While i cant stand anything Bush does, I do hafta agree what he said about a exit date for our troops and that the insurgents would only sit back and wait for us to leave. But at the same time it seems to me Iraq is taking its time getting to where is cant support itself. And why shouldnt it, let all of us pay for their freedom, with our money and lives...
     
  12. shaggie

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    What about accountability and progress reports? There were Pentagon people at a Senate hearing a while back who wouldn't answer the question about how many Iraqi troops have been trained. They said it would give too much info to the insurgents. People should know what they are getting for $300 billion.

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  13. seamonster66

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    I absolutely agree that there should be. It seems that there is no financial accountablity whatsoever.

    I've heard people saying that there should be checkpoints, goals that can be targeted and checked off when completed...I agree.

    I don't think a timetable can really be set, but let the public see where we are anyway.
     
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    I can't even stand looking at a picture of bush's face. The Last time I heard & saw him on TV was when when said: "we are not going out of Iraq until the job is done". What bothered me the most at that moment among of a lot of other things about the idiot was that he used the word job in the subject of War.


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