do you girls care if a guy has a job or not

RE: You can bet if the government offered me money I would take it. Those bastards owe me money anyway.

That's a really bad attitude. Where's the money gonna come from? It ain't "other people" it's you.

Second of all, he never said a THING about reparations, and I did not say or imply that.

But while we're on the subject, I happen to be of British extraction and our people were captured and enslaved by Africans in slave ships long before the British went after Africa. So we can either call it a draw, or we can just pay reparations to each other I guess.

This isn't a race thing. This is about Joker looking for any excuse to justify him lazing around all day smoking weed on public money.

I'm no snitch but it'd be interesting to see if they ever instituted drug testing for welfare and SSI recipients, with continuing aid being dependent on clean tests how many of em would fly right.

 

Joker isn't doing anything different from many other people. You can drive by any high school and see cutesy little girls with cars their daddies gave them. They then go off to college with their parents paying the bills, maybe they have a scholarship in addition which helps, and all they do is party and study for stupid tests (requiring mostly memorization) and once they graduate (having lived for 8 years, from high school through college, like parasites) get better offers because their resumes look better and because of the contacts they established in college. The game is rigged from the beginning. The same goes for a lot of the frat boys.

The reason why people like Joker get criticized and not those I mentioned is because some forms of parasitizing are "legitimate" while others are not. In one case, the public purse is replenished because the daddies of these girls pay taxes. It seems like a utilitarian and relative morality to me.

 

Long thread I refuse to read this but I will say if she has a problem with it she's probably one of those people who think according to standards rather than her own feelings, either that or she's really uptight. Either way you prolly don't want her, if she cares about you she wouldn't want you to do something you dont wanna do. So don't get a jobto look more elible or attractive to a girl, you might miss out on a few, but the one that really matters will come anyway. Besides I'm sure the social workers are encouraged to endorse employment.

 

fucking christ not everyone one on ssi or welfare is a junkie. i'm a recovering drug addict i havent touched alcohol or drugs in 6 years you monkey!!!


look i'll say it again ssi and welfare is different. welfare you walk in a crackhead with a bill and say your hungry they give you food stamps and a check. ssi they have you fill out 5 billion pages of paper work they look into EVERY DOCTOR YOU HAVE SEEN since you were dignosed. they send you paperwork checking on you every few weeks asking how you are doing repeating the same questions over and over that are 4 pages long. You have to go see the doctor every 6 weeks it takes them 4 months to come to a decision(which i'm waiting on) and usually disability isnt forever at least this kind they review it every year. I just had , well we could say a mental break down ,and i'm going to school to get training to get back on track, and it was suggested by my doctor to do this. Anyways so don't think SSI is just handed out to every mother fucker. Almost everybody that appies is denied. Its only given to those who really need it. I like joker but i don't agree with using him using his money to buy drugs and alcohol but to each his own, that i say because i don't use those things. So its not like welfare which is given to every junkie that walks by.

Anyways back to the topic, LIKE I SAID, joker if a girl dosen't like you for you then whatever, i mean honestly women we are material and we like things and if you can buy her something once in awhile pay for your own things and seem productive i don't think it would be too much of a issue. but i would really try school if i were you music class you might dig it.

 

how are you ever going to take your girl out to eat or buy her presents? you might have to stop buying musical equipment or cigarettes if your welfare check isn't enough to cover it.

 

Joker,

Don't listen to these people who tell you not having a job won't matter. It will. Women will discriminate against you at least as bad as any Klansman. I promise.

Women are materialistic. Those who don't have money can compensate with fame or popularity. You have neither. So the truth is that women will leave you cold.

Maybe if you become a famous musician or build up your career you will get your groupies. But prepare for many lonely nights for the time being.

-LSD

 

Very interesting thread, yes I read every post!!!!

I do care if a guy has a job. No, I'm not materialistic. I come from a huge family. Out of my 14 uncles & aunts on my mom's side of the family, I was the first daughter to even graduate from highschool and then college. All of my first cousins (20+), dropped out of school and are either living on welfare, SSI or selling drugs.

It makes me sick when I go over to my cousins house to see brand new furniture, big screen tvs, new cars, new outfits, etc.., however they are living on section 8, paying $5 or less for rent. Meanwhile, I'm making a full mortgage payment. Sometimes I ask my cousins how in the world can they afford those things and they say because they got a hookup or bought it hot.

Yes, I have a job and I support my kids. And most of the time when I do have a free paycheck, somehow, I find myself always giving or lending money away to family members.

If I want to go out on a date, I have to at least pay $25-$30 & food, just for a babysitter. Sometimes, I have to buy cigerettes too. Anyway, if I go out on a date, only to find out that I have to pay for everything, because he doesn't have a job, I will be pissed.

So yes, I find it a complete turnoff when a guy doesn't have a job, sell drugs or have a criminal record.

 

wow i wish i knew all this about you sooner i think you and i would have gotten along well. congrats and i completley agree i dont have kids and dont have to hire a baby sitter but i would be pretty pissed if a guy didn't pick up the check-it would be insulting. its not like i dont have it and financialy speaking i think its important to be financialy independent untill marrige (good deal dfor the guy huh? hehe why do men even get married?...kidding) but its a courtesy thing.

 

There were some good points made by crystallstarr but besides her I think the only thing you really need to be listening to in this thread, joker, is this.

"Don't do things to impress girls. (period)

Most of thm are actually really stupid (and most men too)"

Now im gonna say what I think... in my favorite, quick, sloppy, long, drawn out essay form. I think a lot of people in this thread who were so quick to knock you down were so quick to call you a "leech" living off your "welfare check"... well duh, these people haven't known what they were talking about sense they started replying to this thread... they havent been able to distinguish between a welfare check/program (which you cant live off of forever ANYWAY) and social security (money which you earned which you are getting back for disability), so why should you trust their opinions on how to live your life.

The majority of society would like you to work two full time jobs mostly all your life and in your old age, still be left with nothing. This is reality to many workers living in the US.. a lot of people have worked hard full time jobs all there lives, and they still dont really have much to show for it...

You are taking a different route on the path of life... and don't let anyone tell you there is only 1 way. There are many paths to life, and each have their own advantages and disadvantages. In a western society, you can only expect most of society to hold western ideas. Materialism, Capitalism, Social Darwinism, Christianity are all components of what makes western civilization what it is, especially in America. It shapes what society will think, how they will react to certain things... You are suggesting an alternative route around what is the basis and foundation of many peoples lives in the society around you -- you have to expect people to shun you for it... but you have to realize why people think this way about the idea of life you are proposing.

Like I said earlier, these concepts shape peoples lives... people grow up with the traditions of their family and the people surrounding them... what is the result of this? It makes people what th ey are, it makes people react the way they do. Your life basically suggests that everything their lives have been made up of, working check to check, is not really that grattifying... you would rather live doing what makes you happy instead of live like everyone else (like a slave and depressed) would like you to.
This is a threat to those whose lives have been based around Material Wealth, rather than, should I say, knowledge of self?

People need to recognise how they value life, and act accordingly. People value other things differently than one another... Some value having massive bank accounts, lots of lose income to spend, lots of material possessions, cars... these people will take high paying jobs, usually manual labor jobs, or if they were gifted with parents who could send them through college, other more professional jobs. Other ppls values come from their internal beliefs... ethics... morals... things like that... Some people in here are telling you, you can't live a prosperous happy life with the choices you've made so far... But this is coming from them, not you, they don't interpret things the same way as you do... to them, in order to be happy, they need lots of material wealth and possesions.. you obviously wouldnt have posted this thread if you werent already determined that the quality of your life is not going to be defined by your wealth, that you will not be chasing the "american dream" (which many believe, and rightfully so, is impossible)

Basically what im trying to say is live life how you want to, don't listen to us, or anyone for that matter... do what you feel is right, what makes you happy... set goals for yourself, whatever those goals may be, and try to achieve them... All that matters in life is the state of mind you are in while you go through the journey of life... if you live happily there is no way someone can say you've made bad life choices. Find out what makes you happy, and do it, that is the meaning of life... find out what you feel your purpose in life is, which you obivously have (music), and persue it..

You can work, you are a capable person, don't let people tell you you aren't... dont let yourself tell you you arent... but i think it isnt about what you can do, i think it is about what you want to do. If you give anything enough effort, metal focus, you can do it, whether it is be in a successful band or whether its get a great job...

You cant judge the quality of life by material possession, or jobs for that matter... many things which make peoples lives great, are free... music is one of them.
Do what you please!

It is obvious to see that a lot of people will disagree with you, because that is the opinion they've formed early in there life.. a lot of people cant imagine life without electricity, but people do it all the time... its the same as people who live without jobs... people do it all the time, they are happy with it... but for a lot of people, that kind of life wouldnt make them happy... but if it makes YOU happy, than that is all that matters.

Most girls will see it as a turn off, but I have a very good feeling that you dont want "most girls" anyway, that you want someone who thinks differently, that is more like you... and for this reason you shouldn't care what the majority thinks, because the majority isnt who you are looking for in the first place... to hell with them... so many humans have such a distorted view on the purpose of living, happiness, relationships... what scale and benchmarks are we to use when we determine the quality of life?

A lot of women think beards are a turn off, a lot of them think long hair is a turn off, or smoking weed is a turn off, or being poor is a turn off, or not being in college is a turn off, or being short is a turn off, but you will never see me once care at all about these women or their opinions, never do i ever feel the need to change myself to meet their demands... im not going to shave, cut my hair, become a straight edge blindly nationalistic christian so some ignorant, shallow-minded girl will go out with me. No chance in hell... Im going to be me regardless of what others think...
and to every girl who thinks beards are a turn off, there is one who thinks they are a turn on... or if there is a girl who cares about guys having lots of money and gifts to spend on them, there is also a girl out there who cares about a guy who has values in his life higher than his checkbook. To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction... so what does that mean? Find someone who thinks like you do.... the opinions of those who don't is worth less than nothing to you. It may take you a while to find someone out there who shares your views, it may seem like they will never come, but a moment may come when you find someone like that... its worth the wait... those girls who wouldnt want to date you arent worth your time anyway. what women dont understand is that we dont have to be with them... We have choices. we dont need to live up to their demands, their incredibly long lists that they have what they want in a man (and trust me, they have these long lists, just check the threads "what are you looking for in a man", women will rattle off posts longer than this of things they are looking for in a man)

So once again I will summarize by quoting the only thing you need to read in this entire thread

"Don't do things to impress girls. (period)

Most of thm are actually really stupid (and most men too)"

I did a good job extrapolating on this quote for a long period, to the point where i've wasted lots of time.
Toodles.

 

You people disgust me. If like someone said all women are materialistic, fuck them all. You don't need anyone like that. To the person that said hippies are about being independent, hippies are not about being materialistic. Joker if I were you I would ignore this entire thread, its full of a bunch of posts by uptight money whores. (with a tiny few exceptions)

 

hehe right on mui and honeyhannah i was waiting for the leftys to come in

 

That doesn't make any sense.

But anyway, Mui knows the way!

 

i just want to make another comment about the whole not wanting to work because businesses make you cut your hair, wear certain clothes, shave, things like that... i totally agree and can relate to that... it is reasonable and understandable to not want to work for these businsesses... it is very scary the fact that these corporations want to shape and mold people into all looking nearly alike... it is scary that these corporations have gone out of their way to define "decency", to the point where they are invading other peoples lives and personal choices and telling them how to wear their hair, what clothes to wear, the appropriate number of peircings to have(zero), where they can be... all those dress codes are completely bullshit... I will never work in a place like that again...
But not all jobs are like that, its ez to find places that will let you work without having to drastically change your body image into being the perfect christian conservative working businessman... lots of mom and pop chains dont care about things like that...

 

uhm it doesn't make sense to want to make sure im in a family with someone where i can contribute in other ways as opposed to spending someones money when they aren't sure im going to stick around? i think it makes perfect sense.

 

You gotta ALSO understand that people dont just get disability checks, you gotta have SOMETHING to get it for.

 

Okay I think I read you wrong. Were you being sarcastic?

 

ding ding ding we have a winner!!!!

 

i'd just like to add that i could careless whose laughing at my way of living. i'm laughing at the fact that most of you keep saying i'm on welfare when i'm not. i don't know how many times i gotta keep tellin ya that. i did get paid today and i bought some booze. i do think that it is funny that i'm spending money of the hard workers as well. and for all the judgemental assholes u can suck my dick for all i care.

 

Wow, you definently aren't a very good person at all.

 

reading this, i hope you die a virgin