Perhaps people with depression

i strongly disagree, i was severely depressed not too long ago but now i've gotten out of it... hopefully for good. but the world is actually a wonderful and beautiful thing, it's just the people on it that blow for the most part.

 

yeah it's a nice point of vue but ...why not push our revolt at his borderline...

the borderline of a revolt is for exemple made bombs and put them at night in economic center and other kind of things...

this is goin far away in our point of vue
some said it's a demented point of vue...
But i think that it's a good idea too get back those fights that everybody forgot since the viet nam war was over... strangely the Iraq crisis don't push enough people too think deeply 'bout how crazy is your governement (i'm not yankee)...

If we don't want to feel guilty as a passive citizen who always see the trains pass...
we've got to run at the borderline of the counterculture...

 

i think that depression CAN be an illness. but WAYWAYWAY more often than not, its just a normal person in angst, in a society where its 'alright' to be depressed, 'its not your fault, its an illness'
i think thats BS. the real depressoids often keep it to themselves and so you dont know about it till theyve built it all up and are trying to kill themselves.

our contemporary liberalism towards depressed people BREEDS depression and makes it seem OK, whenits not, its a serious problem for some and only the people who really have a chemical imbalance should ever be treated for it, otherwise it devalues them to the same level as all the FUCKHEADS who say theyve got depression (and, granted, often believe so) when theyre just being pessimistic and self-pitiful

 

That is such an intelligent quote, wow

 

oh and that quote... its not true one bit. just because you see the world for what it 'truelly is' doesnt mean you have to be so insecure that you have to mope about it. You obviously dont see teh world for what it is, because then you would realise crying does nothing but bring down people around for your own selfish reasons. if you never impose it on anyone of course and people dont feel your sadness then clearly you are depressed, but otherwise unless you have a condition its just being weak. not weak in the way a white supremisict would say, but in the way sensei would say!

 

Ignoring it wont help.

 

Ignoring what?

erm...

What I'm basically saying, as far as dealing with 'depression', is that more time should be spent on digging deeper and really finding out what is wrong rather than just popping pills. I found out why I was 'depressed' and I made decisions and plans to get out of it.

I mean, If more people feel like me, as far as why they're depressed, I can totally see why there would be a campaign, with funding from the government, to convince us that we have disorders.

The older I got, the more depressed I got because I saw where they were leading me and every part of me rejected it. I started hating the world, focusing on everything negative, making suicide plans, ect ect. When I found out that there are ways to live outside of this system, and saw that other people were doing it, I was suddenly cured................

I do really believe that 'they''re trying to make us all into drones. Like I said, our socitey keeps getting faster, more systematic and standards keep rising. Notice how mental disorders are becoming more and more of an 'epidemic'.

 

Yeah, there seems to be an epidemic of depression, and it has to do mostly with the greed out there and the resulting stress on everyone. Rather than acknowledge the human costs of that greed, they would rather prescribe a pill so they can charge you for it, thereby making even MORE money.

But sooner or later it's all going to fall apart, we will have too many burned out people and no more money to milk out of anyone, and we will then have one HUGE mess on our hands. The Japanese have been paying for their own greed for years now (they rode high in the 80s and things fell apart in the 90s), and we Americans are the next in line.

I'm not so sure about a deliberate government conspiracy, that's giving them WAAAAY too much credit. More likely the whole government circus is being used as a distraction by those who are REALLY in power...

 

You cant just get out of it....

 

If this was directed at me, kindly fuck off sir. You don't know me and you don't know how I act in real fucking life. Why such a condescending rant?

 

Hendrix was Bi-Polar?? WHOA... That's very interesting.

 

you sound like a judgemental asshole. and the real depressed people are open about it. some even committ themselves to mental hospitals to get better dumbass. maybe u outta pick up a book. it might help u back up ure pointless views.

 

I've known a lot of depressed people with no insight into the truth whatsoever


depression is not some mystic lifting of a veil imo

 

Lets say you can't figure out a specific reason why your depressed, and how do you pull yourself out of it even if you do know?

 

That is a very good question. I have bipolar of a tyype being the most difficult to treat. Bipolar with mixed states and mixed episodes. The deep feelings of sadness come over me without warning, no reason while the mood when the depression is not as intense mood/moment is that of mania or hypomania.

I am tired and so far down and depressed now at the moment while wide awake and would like to sleep. The depression and mania togther keep me from getting a job and working full or even part time. I am chronically mentally ill and recieving social security disability benefits.

The question of 'specific reason' this is something I do have problems with as I try when not too depressed to research and my mind going thousand thoughts an hour to find a reason for the depression. I can not find an answer and mostly feel even more depressed as many people do not understand mental illness at all including me. They call me lazy or a bum, burnout or what. The depression reminds me I am not able to work every day. Looks can be decieving. I know at times depression at the worst, for me to get hungry and weak only to stare at a simple can of soup and think to myself I dont even have the will to open up a can. So I at times just dont eat.

My only option are meds. Ive been on hundreds of combonations over the years and when they are not working and feel like want to die I have and do at times 'self medicate' using my other meds or abusing them to cancel out the depression only to run out and then be miserable from the withdrawal and not having the abused for a week or two and it all adds up and equals that what I feel or anyone feels is unable to be felt by another, so I cant say I know how someone else who is depressed feels because I am not them and will never be. Just as right now no one on this planet knows how I feel and have not walked or walk in the shoes I have worn or the bare feet under this desk or the fadeing mind inside my head.

PPeace RRx HHead

 

Hey RX, I really do appreciate that you're trying to help yourself out to the extent that you are able, even if you feel like nothing is working. I think that the biggest reason that I haven't yet committed suicide is that I've been so depressed that I'm unable to even take my life -- sometimes I'm unable to do anything at all except stare at the ceiling and not even be aware that I'm doing it.

Depression really does drag down your will and personality like a two-ton ball and chain, and trying to do even the simplest things requires you to fight through all the crap inside your head before you can lift so much as a finger. There's also no pleasure left in life, you simply cannot feel it just the endless pain of even existing. Even being able to feel sorry for yourself is an improvement, it's better than feeling nothing at all except that vague dull ache.

I'm doing reasonably well right now but I also have to collect disability as I'm unable to maintain under the job stress for more than 4-6 weeks and that's when I'm doing well. I am trying to see if there's something I can do that won't be too stressful and that I can work around my bad times when I have to, possibly as an artist or the like. But though I'm now in a good mood I'm still thinking of suicide especially before I get too depressed again to pull it off. I don't think I have a hell of a lot to look forward to anyway especially as I'm getting on in years and I don't want to live in a nursing home.

 

yea, i know. i'm just saying that it's wayyy overdiagnosed. i'm not saying that everyone has an outside reason but most people probably do.

but then again... if someone goes to a doctor saying that they're depressed and they work a cubicle job full time and they feel like they're not living a full life and they just want to quit and die (or something, you know), chances are that the doctor will put them on drugs so they can continue living their unfulfilling life and keep contributing to society like a good little citizen.

 

Very cynical, and unfortunately very real too.

 

Depression can definitely happen in groups... if people get stuck dealing with everyone's drama and there's no space where they can be themselves and be recognized for being themselves, of course they're going to get depressed. Our whole culture seems depressed in a way... where's the optimism and love? It's not nature that's bringing us down, it's the way people relate to each other, the way people show acceptance or rejection, and the way people build meaning out of the events of their lives.