London getting hit by terrorists

Discussion in 'Politics' started by listen to screw, Jul 7, 2005.

  1. shaba

    shaba Grand Inquisitor

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    "The Coalition of the Willing"
     
  2. Bobinbed

    Bobinbed Visitor

    Mossad behind Al Quaida? *laughs in hysterics* That was the most stupid thing I've heard. The evidence presented is utter bullshit. It doesn't take a lot of intelligence to work that out.

    My boyfriend works at Victoria Station in London. Luckily it wasn't blown up.
     
  3. fat_tony

    fat_tony Member

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    Tony Blair is not having any popularity problems, he's fresh out what is still one of the largest election victories ever in the UK. He wont stand to be PM again infact hes said he wont even finish this term. Having just won the Olympic games for London and holding one of the most important summits of his career, this is about the worst conceivable time for it to happen to him. I dont understand this need to assume everything is a conspiracy especially one that makes so little sense.
     
  4. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Another Interesting Point....When I first made my post about possible MI5 and Mossad Involvement in the attack, I had posted a link (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/...htm?POE=NEWISVA) about an Israeli GOvernment official who had been warned not to proceed with his schedule and to stay put right before the blasts in London today, his schedule had called for him to be at the scene of the blast and if he had not been told to stay put he would have died, this story was up and running when I posted it, right from USAtoday.com, but less than an hour later, i visited it again and the story had been pulled, coincidence?

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  5. Sera Michele

    Sera Michele Senior Member

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    Glad to hear you and your family are okay.
    I don't understand this kind of stuff...why make innocent people victims just to make a point? There has gotta be a better way. Unfortunatly it seems to take a disaster to get the world's attention these days...and that's not good for anybody.
     
  6. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    "Below are several news reports inclduing the White House Bulletin, AP and CBS News which suggest that British police authorities might have had advanced warnings of the attacks and had informed the Israeli Embassy. The time at which these warnings were received is not known. If these reports are correct, it raises some very serious questions. We also provide an excerpt from the Jerusalem Post, which questions the validity of AP report."

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050707&articleId=657
     
  7. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    This country defines stoicism. To change anything is to give in.
     
  8. deadsilence020

    deadsilence020 Member

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    that sucks man... could have been alot worse..Fountainsofnay... im diggin those glasses.. niiiice lol.

    I think the UK had it comin, but oh well, better then another 9/11
     
  9. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    mmm YEAH 50 plus people deserved to get blown up indiscriminatly by bastards . Ok whatever.
     
  10. Maggie Sugar

    Maggie Sugar Senior Member

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    Balbus, I woke up in the middle of the night last night worried about you and your baby and your womyn, before I saw this thread. My hopes and prayers are for your safety and for the safety of everyone in your area. Are you all alright?

    I am so sorry this horrible thing has happened. :(
     
  11. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Innocent death is horrible everywhere Matthew, but I wonder if you share the same outrage for the thousands we firebombed and snipered in the streets in Fallujah, to name but one venue of our ongoing distruction in the region?

    Who do you suppose they consider to be the bastards whilst weeping the loss of their loved ones and neighbours?
     
  12. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    you have two imperialisms a 1400 year old religous one, and our western one .

    I think the problem we have is that the left in general can only see one of them, either that or they can see the non western one and want to support it as a tool to try to take down western imperialism .

    I thought it was really sick to see that bastard the lord mayor of london who has been giving the red carpet treatment to top islamists (who want to kill homosexuals ect ) nearly crying on the news .

    also the british muslim spokesmen the bbc choose to say they are sorry about the attack.

    if you know anything about the detail of the groups they represent .

    They had a guy from the The Muslim Association of Britain saying how sorry he was about the bombing, well the Muslim Association of Britain is a branch of the muslim brotherhood .

    The MAB was founded in 1997 by Kamal el-Helbawy, then the London-based spokesman in Europe for the Muslim Brotherhood, a pro-terrorism group that has been largely responsible for the rise of militant Islam in recent decades, and claims to have taken part in most pro-Islamic conflicts including Afghanistan and Kashmir. The brotherhood's objective is: "Mastering the World with Islam", and its motto concludes: "Dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope."

    It has branches in 70 countries, often under different names. In Palestine it is Hamas, which pioneered the use of suicide bombers .

    if you remember what arafat used to do he used to condemn terrorist attacks in english and then make speechs praising them in arabic, the term for this lieing is kitman its concealing your true intent for the sake of islam .

    do a search for what kitman and taqiyya is all about on islamic sites and see how you should not take what is being said at face value

    http://www.ci-ce-ct.com/Feature articles/02-12-2002.asp


    http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=178

    it all flim flam
     
  13. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    If you don't consider the people that bombed London to be 'bastards' fair enough . Clearly the allowed exodus of 70.000 people before the insurgency was attempted to be removed is not going to enter your mind. I have no idea were you get 'thousands' from and the notion of a ramboesque attack on Fallujah is pityful.
     
  14. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Of course I consider them bastards Matthew. I simply consider the "them" to be the same one's advancing and directly profiting - both materially and politically - from the continuance of a perceived boogieman threat that maintains the fraudulent "WoT". No foreign shadowy contrived "masterminds" necessary to plant bombs within one's own general public infrastructure.

    That said, thanks for showing how you can respond in a way that completely avoids the question asked of you.

    Perhaps your town/city should be allowed an "exodus" before your home and street and quarter is bombed to rubble, taking everything you value with it because of lies. Many people did not leave their homes no more than many of our own would do so if threatened. Not to mention the many who were snipered in the streets or shot dead without question on the spot in house to house mop ups, all by trigger happy psycopaths who were "just following orders".

    That you fail to condemn it for the war crime it was (by clear definition according to the Nuremberg Principles - which again I suggest you bother to familiarise yourself with), only confirms my assessment of your callous armchair-cheerleader nature.

    Cheers.
     
  15. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Because i knew you would turn it around the way you have. In your mind you just continue believe that our goverments did this. wich is ridiculous. Like i said in another thread i am not going to waste my energy on your conspiracies anymore yeah i am joining the world of the sheeple once more

    bye.
     
  16. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Your continuing suggestion that it is simply "ridiculous" without any concrete defense of that notion only demonstrates further the simplistic naive subscription to the myth of "my government is good and would never intentionally seek to harm its own citizens". That dear boy is what is truly ridiculous.

    Seems you have no real comprehension of just how institutionalised the mechanisms to maintain the status quo truly are nor the extent to which they will go when given the opportunity and the lack of transparent scrutiny. Obviously the magnitude of public perception management necessary to maintain a "war which will not end in our lifetimes" escapes your surface understanding of affairs of state.

    Perhaps one day you might actually get the impetus to inform yourself of much that mainstream media never tells you and thereby come to appreciate that what I focus on is not "theory" but political reality which by nature IS conspiracy.
     
  17. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    Here's some good news as far as the investigation:


    London Police Find Two Unexploded Bombs

    Published: Friday July 08, 2005
    zaman.com



    The US ABC Television reported that timing devices used to control the bombs and two unexploded bombs were discovered by London police.


    The report, based on sources from the US authorities who contacted the London police said the devices were found in packages and bags. The report further said the London police discovered two bombs among the wreckage of the four blasts and defused them.


    The unexploded bombs and timing mechanisms will help discover the identities of the perpetrators of the attacks. According to ABC, the London blasts were similar to the attacks committed in Madrid last year.


     
  18. fountains of nay

    fountains of nay Planet Nayhem!

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  19. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    This is precisely what I have been arguing though. The very bent of that report is fully slanted to reinforcing the presumption that it must have been arab terrorists, even before any leigitmate investigation has even begun. All the easier to facilitate the announcement in a few days or weeks that sure enough it WAS the phantom Al Qaeda (or some heretofore unknown faction thereof).

    And those who truly gain from the maintenance of this "trauma-insinuation-proclamation" process fuelling the "WoT" smokescreen of unilateralist war of aggression (and untold MIC profiteering) sit back and reap the budgetary and political benefits of the charade, free from the ever increasing public scrutiny they should be experiencing.

    The cognitive dissonance of the public in its inability to see through the contrivance is astounding.
     
  20. deadsilence020

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    Im not saying I dont have sympathy... but I am sick of hearing about it. We know we know... its a tragedy...

    The usa had a massive attack on their ground that killed thousands, (not to be a prick) and the UK shed a tear. Now that they got an attack on their own ground, and killed only 50 people (not that I dont value the importance of a life), they are ballin and its ALL im hearing about on the forums everywhere, not just HipForums.

    EDIT: Dont get me wrong, but I just dont see how this is a huge thing... its really not, there has been so much worse things. When ure involved in dumbass country's war, ure gonna get some of the bite, so Id stop bitching cuz it aint doing any good
     
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