Mother who lost son in Iraq discusses private meeting with Bush

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by Pressed_Rat, Jul 6, 2005.

  1. squawkers7

    squawkers7 radical rebel

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    My so has been in Iraq since the first week in March.


    I hugged him as a boy.
    And through the years he has become
    My greatest pride and joy.


    I love him more than I can say,
    His life more precious than my own.
    But gone are the whims and notions
    Of the little boy that I have known.


    For the years have passed so quickly
    Since the time it all began,
    And now he stands before me
    With the convictions of a man.


    He wants to serve his country
    He states aloud with pride,
    As I try to sort out the emotions
    That I'm feeling deep inside.


    A union of the uncertain fear,
    Which I cannot control,
    And the allegiance that lies deep within
    My patriotic soul.


    I trust that my years of guidance
    Will serve as a strong foundation
    As he perfoms the duties requested
    From his beloved nation.


    God, please guide him as he travels
    To the places our Military have bled,
    And walk with him through pathways
    where those heroes' feet have tread.

    Oh, Sweet Land of Liberty,
    Humbly I give you my son,
    Praying you'll return him safely home
    When his work for you is done.
     
  2. BlackVelvet

    BlackVelvet Members

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    squawkers that was beautiful! :)
     
  3. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Keep living in your bubble of self delusion matthew until your precious leaders remove all you rights and liberties. Maybe when its too late youll wake up and realise who you should have been railing against all along. I won't put money on it though.
     
  4. squawkers7

    squawkers7 radical rebel

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    1. her son was 24...he could join the military even without her permission & approval.
    2. Most people are born with 2 parents, 4 grand-parents, and if they are lucky have lots of uncles & cousins..What makes you believe that his whole
    family agree on the military/war issue? Maybe his mother was he only 1 who hates war & didn't brainwash into thinking "to be a man...you HAVE too go to war"
     
  5. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    Actually, saying that in a "perfect world" the children of your political opponents would be shipped off to be tortured is generally considered vicious.

    Please proceed to rationalise and excuse this all you want, because it makes no difference, I have to wonder who would be surprised to hear you say it.
     
  6. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    To be labelled vicious by the arch apologist for war criminals and proponents of ongoing torture is rich indeed!

    Thanks for the laugh!
     
  7. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    Please find and quote one post where I have said I support torture. You can't, because I have never done any such thing.

    I will show one thread where you have specifically and explicitly said that in a perfect world, the children of your political opponents would be shipped off and tortured. That thread is this one.

    There's no getting out of this one Lick.
     
  8. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Your apologies for the Bush admin and its war crimes carry with them an innate defence of all they continue to do in the name of maintaining that status quo, including the indefinite detentions without trial and torture of innocent prisoners.

    No need to get out of anything, little warmonger. Those who perpetrate such crimes teach the same to their progeny and thus the cycle continues to keep sheeple like yourself content. A taste of what they visit upon weaker nations and peoples is called justice.
     
  9. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    Thank you for confirming that

    A) You are unable to cite any instance where I spoke in favor of torture, and

    B) You stand by your statement and explicitly and specifically affirm that in a perfect world, the children of your political opponents would be shipped off to be tortured.

    That will do.
     
  10. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Yes point, we know the concept of "principle" escapes your simplistic notions. Those of us who recognise you for the apologist for criminals that you are understand that your specific evasion of condemnation for such acts is assent by all universal ethical norms.

    Its only to be condemned when it performed by those in other sovereign nations you wish to see the US juggernaut invade and decimate even further.

    Sing us a new song hypocrit.
     
  11. Pointbreak

    Pointbreak Banned

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    There is no evasion of condemnation. I condemn torture.

    Again, you are saying that I support torture without providing any evidence that I have said anything to that effect, because there is none. I don't care what you induce, infer, assume, deduct, triangulate, speculate, guess or posit. If you cannot provide a post where I said so, you have no basis for your claim.

    You, in contrast, have specifically and explicitly expressed support for the torture of the children of your political opponents. Right here. in this thread. And then you CONFIRMED it, and went on to call it "justice".
     
  12. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Once again for the simple minded, your apologies for exposed war criminals and authorisers of torture in US installations from Gitmo to Baghram makes you an apologist for all their actions. Your evasions carry no weight.

    Anyone who respects consistency of principle sees you for the liar you are.

    Just keep spinning it like Rove little warmonger.
     
  13. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Oh and by the way dear liar, now that I can be arsed go do a bit of digging let's just see how selective your memory is...


    In the thread "Thumbs up to Torture, it's OK to use it"...
    http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=697440&postcount=30

    Oh and then we have a brief flash of rationale only to watch it retreat back into the bubble of media-fed relativity. Note that the torture you admit to and then seek to make apology for has since been exposed, like those of us you regularly rail against in your defense of war criminals have said all along, as being more widespread, ongoing, and intentional than you gullibly claimed it to be in your routine apologetic...

    http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=851918&postcount=21

    Well we know what standards those for whom you make apology abide by, any that will excuse their actions and their onus to abide by international law. Guilty by association once again!

    Keep on waving the flag and claiming your heros are exporting liberty and democracy.
     
  14. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Please keep up LIck' i firstly called you 'vicious' wich i then changed to you having a 'spiteful tongue' ..you prove this to be true in almost all of your posts.
     
  15. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Oh I am quite happy to admit my utter loathing of hypocritical bandwagon apologists for our corrupt criminal leaders. I merely return to such ilk the same spite with which they flood communities of concerned citizens like this one.

    Of course, since the quote in your post wasn't addressed to you but to our longtime resident master of derision himself, it seems you have issues of your own that need sorting before you point fingers at anyone else.
     
  16. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Well i first mentioned it Lick' as i did not take up your goading as much as you liked, you just transfered you 'spiteful tongue' to some one else. We are prety much interchangeable i suppose (all thinking/feeling the same way) . I am sure we all fall under the same cliched headings you trot out almost daily.

    I have not been spiteful to anyone apart from you Lick', as you deserve it for your loathing of any other truth but your own.
     
  17. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    The truth is not mine Matthew, and thats the mark of true cognitive dissonance for all you bandwagoneers who refuse to apply consistency of principle or undertake any real investigatory research beyond what mainstream media programs you to accept. The truth of the operative geo-political agenda and the extent to which it will go to maintain the present paradigm of fraudulent terrorist threat (by perpetrating its own cullings in its own backyard) simply is.

    Dismissing it with childish allegations of "your truth" towards those who open their eyes and decry it, especially when those such dismissal ultimately defends have themselves been repeatedly exposed as wanton liars, only demonstrates a desperate need to cling to herd mentality myths of the goodness and faithfulness of our leaders and our governing institutions.

    Unfortunately for the herd, the elite and their institutions serve only their own ends. Nationalistic motifs and references to representative democracy are mere affectations to pacify sufficient portions of the public so as to facilitate their ongoing concentration of power at home and extension of globalist hegemony abroad.

    In this actual context, which you seek to deny (and in some respects ignorance is bliss, I suppose), the perpetration of contrived "terrorist" attacks is the most expedient means of further marginalising dissent and managing public perception in their favour.
     
  18. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    I appreciate the time and effort you put into this, but i have heard it several times before.
     
  19. LickHERish

    LickHERish Senior Member

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    Just as you hear "Al Qaeda" and "War on Terror" and their associated repetitive assertions on a daily basis. The problem is, you prefer to cling to the PR rather than see through it.

    The truth bears repeating as often as the lies to which you and your ilk subscribe. Expect to hear it ad infinitum.
     
  20. matthew

    matthew Almost sexy

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    Yes i believe i probably will hear it ad infinitum, even when i am in iraq on holiday enjoying the sun and the culture.
     
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