Suicide & Pain

ihmurria:

Thank you very much for passing by my thread

 

Dude this is a forum. i will not keep my opinion to myself. what would be the point?

 

Death:

Misunderstanding
some members when they say their opinion they want the others to accept it not just to say their opinion ,that what happened to me , when I said an opinion which isn't like them they started cursing and saying swear words?

 

well i dont do that unless i have reason to.

Do they think that a couple of fuck yous and eat shits will make you change your mind?

 

Death:

see,

 

Let me tell you something, telling a person that's in pain that their problems are insignificant or the same as everyone eles's doesn't help. Telling people that have committed suicide that they were dumb doesn't help. (Too late anyway)Telling someone depressed that you love them and being there to support them and see them through their hard time, now that's helpful.

 

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Suicide Causes



Over 90 percent of people who die by suicide have a mental illness at the time of their death.

And the most common mental illness is depression.

Untreated depression is the number one cause for suicide.

Untreated mental illness (including depression, bipolar disorder, shcizophrenia, and others) is the cause for the vast majority of suicides.

Also, some people are genetically predisposed to depression, and thus they may not appear to be undergoing any negative life experiences, yet still become depressed, and may die by suicide.

So, some people die by suicide because of a depression that was caused by genetics. You probably have heard about some indivuduals who died by suicide and did not exhibit any symptoms or appear to have any serious problems. In these cases, it is possible that the person had depression that occured because of this genetic factor.

It is very rare that someone dies by suicide because of one cause. Thus, there are usually several causes, and not just one, for suicide.



Many people die by suicide because depression is triggered by several negative life experiences, and the person does not receive treatment, or does not receive effective treatment for the depression. (Some people need to go through several treatments until they find one that works for them.) Some of the negative life experiences that may cause depression, and some other causes for depression, include:

• The death of a loved one.
  
  
  
• A divorce, separation, or breakup of a relationship.
  
  
  
• Losing custody of children, or feeling that a child custody decision is not fair.
  
  
  
• A serious loss, such as a loss of a job, house, or money.
  
  
  
• A serious illness.
  
  
  
• A terminal illness.
  
  
  
• A serious accident.
  
  
  
• Chronic physical pain.
  
  
  
• Intense emotional pain.
  
  
  
• Loss of hope.
  
  
  
  
  
• Being victimized (domestic violence, rape, assault, etc).
  
  
  
• A loved one being victimized (child murder, child molestation, kidnapping, murder, rape, assault, etc.).
  
  
  
• Physical abuse.
  
  
  
• Verbal abuse.
  
  
  
• Sexual abuse.
  
  
  
• Unresolved abuse (of any kind) from the past.
  
  
  
• Feeling "trapped" in a situation perceived as negative.
  
  
  
• Feeling that things will never "get better."
  
  
  
• Feeling helpless.
  
  
  
• Serious legal problems, such as criminal prosecution or incarceration.
  
  
  
• Feeling "taken advantage of."
  
  
  
• Inability to deal with a perceived "humiliating" situation.
  
  
  
• Inability to deal with a perceived "failure."
  
  
  
• Alcohol abuse.
  
  
  
• Drug abuse.
  
  
  
• A feeling of not being accepted by family, friends, or society.
  
  
  
• A horrible disappointment.
  
  
  
• Feeling like one has not lived up to his or her high expectations or those of another.
  
  
  
• Bullying. (Adults, as well as children, can be bullied).
  
  
  
• Low self-esteem.
  

Again, the above causes may trigger depression, and, untreated depression is the number one cause for suicide.

I could answer yes to about 18 off the things on thatt list right now.

 

mystical_shroom:​

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I don't know how strong was your relationship to them or how did you deal with that in its time. But if I were you I will do my best to stop them from committing this wrong decision or I think I will not let him to do it somehow. ​

YoursSincerely,​

CatStevens​

 

Bellfire01 :​

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What is insignificant to us doesn't mean it is insignificant to others.​

The big problem sister that some people unfortunately, when any depressed person come to them and tell them about his deepest feelings , they didn't deal with that seriously , or they make jokes!! Which make the depressed person never express his feelings in the future to anyone or feels that he is really alone and nobody wants to listen to him seriously, he will feel estrangement and this is a big problem.​

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Thank you very much Bellfire01 : for your polite reply and for sharing us your opinion.​

YoursSincerely,​

CatStevens​

 

come_do_drawrings:​

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Why are you angry that much young lady? I have my own style . I am thanking them because they read what I wrote . that's all. Calm down calm down. All you need is a cold lemonade make it fresh at home it is better.​

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YoursSincerely,​

CatStevens​

 

squawkers7:​

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Definitely, they have to treat it.​

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1) Myself, I think if this is true (the genetically predisposed to depression), the scientists will find a treatment for that one day or perhaps there is the treatment in somewhere (other countries). ===è(RE:Some people need to go through several treatments until they find one that works for them.)​

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2) did not exhibit any symptoms or appear to have any serious problems. Many of people when they felt sad one day and wanted to cry but they didn't they ignored their feelings and jailed their tears and they don't want to solve their problems seriously , day after day there will be a huge pressure on them which appears in depression form consequently they will not know the real reason of their depression ,ignoring the feelings and avoid expressing the deep feelings in the right way is too bad and there will be its negative results in the future(guaranteed)=èIt is very rare that someone dies by suicide because of one cause. Thus, there are usually several causes, and not just one, for suicide.=è Many people die by suicide because depression is triggered by several negative life experiences,​

3) Or a person who doesn't have a goal in this life , he is just living like animals ' life (eating, drinking, sleeping, having se..) that person will feel depression without knowing the real reason.​

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4) As the body hungers , the soul hungers too , soul's food is religion, a real relationship with God. ​

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5) being a Muslim , Allah stated:​

'' But whosever turns away from my reminder (i.e. neither believes in this Quraan nor acts on its teachings) verily, for him is a life of hardship… '' I.e. but he who turneth away from remembrance of me, his will be a narrow life,​

Chapter: 20, verse: 124​

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• RE: Being victimized (domestic violence, rape, assault, etc).
  A loved one being victimized (child murder, child molestation, kidnapping, murder, rape, assault, etc.). Sexual abuse.

Here I want to say something about the animal males Who are looking for their temporary happiness at the expense of others happiness, health, feelings…… etc. have they ever thought about that?? What they caused to others?? How selfish are they. Let them put themselves in their victims' shoes?? May God infect them with palsy.​

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I heard and read that there are many of gay suicides (homosexuals)​

Again:Definitely, they have to treat it.​

Thank you very much for the information.​

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YoursSincerely,​

CatStevens​

 

catstevens, i'd just like to say that it's nice to see someone so sincere and compassionate as your postings makes you to be. i wonder how old you are? you seem like you've maintained a sort of innocence..

it is clear that english isn't your first language; come_do_drawings was out of line to show anger towards your calm reply to her post.

for the record, i think you are trying to say "thanks for visiting and posting in my thread" when you say "pass"? i could be wrong.

i find the idea of suicide an interesting one. society, at least western society, tends to view the act of taking one's life as an evil or pathetic act. i believe there are instances where suicide can be a noble and decent act.

peace

 

uh, excuse me but do you know anything about the people who i know killed themselves, no..
i love how people assume im a cold hearted bitch just because of some post on the internet... i was their for them, you know nothing about the situation so i would not make such a judgemental post... and try to act like im horrible when again you know nothing about what happened or why and that is something i chose not to share...
if you dont like my post, then thats fine but we all have different opinions about things so dont tell me my post was wrong when it was merely my thoughts and feelings about incidents that happened in my life..
people need to not act like im a cold hearted person when no one here knows me anyways...

 

Woa I don't care to relate to how many of those I fall under... lets not forget mass confusion over ones state of being. WHEE. what a thought provoking topic. wish i had answers too.

 

^that should totally be on there after drug use.

 

Ok dare I say this. I seem to be going through one of those suicide contemplation things. tho this time threw it seems to be taking a much more objective pov. not so much depression. a little to begin with and maybe a steady ankle deep sensation. but nothing one isnt use to dealing with. however it just seems like the appropriate path. if everything is illusion to begin with then why not prove the theory? but dont go to the light... thats a trick. I heard that on coast to coast am one night. what kind of advice do our different perspectives have? ooh this curiosity alone is enough to keep me goin for a little while ^_^. wait.. no... lost it.

 

yeah, bobulon... i can totally see where you're coming from. there was an interesting thread on this subject in the philosophy forum awhile back, i seem to remember...

taking one's life, the ultimate freedom... it's what it all comes down to: life, or don't live.
yeah, but curiousity of this life is too much at the moment to threaten any foreseeable self-inflicted end.
hm!

 

woa hey lets throw a new sabo in to this topic... I just found out my bros in bad shape in Iraq... gee... sure hope he doesnt die for a dieing resource..
This is gonna take some time to sink in maybe?

 

nite mare hippy girl :​

Oh, thank you very much, peaceful girl. ​

Can you Guess?​

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I wrote thank you for passing by my thread or thank you for everyone who passed by my thread, for the replys (posts) which is short and not giving new information … etc in their reply , its just like somebody who passed by something i.e. in this forum I feel that I am in a big café full of people with different ages, there are many of groups , each group is talking about a topic ( which is thread here) so when I post my thread , In the beginning when I posted it I was alone on the table , when some members reply with short comments and then go it is like they passed by my table (my thread) ​

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Thank you nite mare hippy girl for your polite comments.​

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YoursSincerely,​

CatStevens​