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CONGRESS DEBATES NATIONAL DRIVERS LICENSE with ID TRACKING CHIP... and CONTROL through a VIRTUAL NATIONAL ID




Update: October 21, 2004 - The 911 Commission recommends a National ID Card with armed checkpoints around America and a National Driver's License. And Congress seems to be going along with the recommended legislation.

October 12 2004 DOJgov.net Newswire ©

UPDATE: The House of Representatives has passed HR10 with the national ID database provisions in tact and mandating a standardized National Drivers License throughout the United States. The national identification system has begun. This falls in line with recommendations of the 911 Commission that called for a National Identification Card and armed checkpoints throughout America.

In accition, provisions of what was previously known as the Patriot Act II are being passed under the guise of implementing the 911 Commission's findings. Many of the legislative measures, particularly S. 2845 introduced in the Senate by Senators Collins (ME) and Senators Lieberman (CT) are bi-partisan efforts in response to the 911 Commission. They include:

Establishment of a national ID card, disguised as national standardization of drivers licensing;

Establishment of a national electronic database for birth and death certificates, with permanent identifying information assigned to each individual, such as a national ID number;

Biometric identifiers - including fingerprints, face recognition software photos, iris or retinal scans, and other private physical identification - for travel documents which would be used for security in domestic air travel as well as overseas travel;

Expanded secret eavesdropping and search powers to be used against individuals suspected of terrorist activity. At the same time, "terrorist activity" is so broadly defined as to include virtually anybody critical of government. There will be no federal court oversight.

Enhanced "material support" provisions allowing guilt by association.

May 1, 2002 DOJgov.net Newswire ©

Legislation to standardize state-issued driver's licenses across the United States and use them as virtual national IDs is looming over the horizon. The Card will be mandated to hold a programmable ID chip with biometric patterns as yet undefined. The bill would also mandate that state databases be linked.

The Driver's License Modernization Act of 2002, sponsored by Reps. Jim Moran, D-Va., and Tom Davis, R-Va., directs that the chip be capable of accepting software for other applications, including those of private companies. By doing this, it paves the way for becoming "the only card you'll ever need," as it could replace ATM cards, credit cards, employment ID, library cards and virtually all other plastic ID media.

The stated object of the legislation is to prevent identity fraud and enhance national security by making driver's licenses a better way to establish identity. "The intent of this legislation is to correct flaws in the driver's license standard that states currently have," Moran's spokesman, Dan Drummond, stated.

"Right now there are inconsistent requirements between the states for initial identity verification. There's also insufficient verification of identity documents that people present when they go to get a license."

The bill would earmark an initial $315 million in taxpayer funds to help pay for the transition to the new licenses and to set up links between state computer systems. It also opens the way towards linking to hundreds of national information databases, exposing all personal, financial, medical and other information to one source of law enforcement and corporate retrieval.

In theory the cards could also be structured in such a way that revocation of driving privileges would be done electronically without damaging other uses. On the other hand, having a driver's license reviewed through a scan by law enforcement could reveal an enormous amount of personal information. And confiscation of a "universal" card in the future world could render the former holder invisible to features needed for simple survival.

The Patriot Act, passed late last year after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, appears to open a way for federal, state and local databases to be linked. The bill authorized $150 million for the "expansion of the Regional Information Sharing System" to "facilitate federal-state-local law enforcement response related to terrorist acts."

Rep. Harman, a member of the Select Committee on Intelligence and an acknowledged expert on counter-terrorism, said the identification needs to be connected to national databases to check on the background of driver's permit applicants.

"I think this issue must be looked at. We don't automatically have to call it a national ID card, that's a radioactive term, but we can certainly think about smart cards for essential functions, but we need the database to support that."

Asked by a member of the audience if she felt there was political support for this technology, Harman said, "I think most people are really there. Keep in mind that if we have a second wave of attacks. The folks who are raising objections will probably lose totally.


Initial use of the enhanced driver's license for private-sector services would be voluntary, but given the growth in power of new bureaucracies, it may not be long before a piece of plastic in good standing is the control mechanism for compliance or starvation.

 

Outrageous. Fortunately, I don't think this kind of legislation has any chance of passing due to the widespread opposition and controversy it would cause.

 

Sadly, it has already been passed. It's called the 'RealID Act'. It was thrown in with a bunch of other proposals for border control and the oh-so-popular terrorist prevention.

There is no tracking device on it as far as I know, but it's only one step away now that there's an ID created by the Federal Government.

The funniest thing about it is that (like almost everything it does nowadays) the Federal Government has no constitutional power to create an ID card. Imagine that, the government acting outside of its boundries

 

"has no constitutional power to..."

Surely they just did? So they must have the power to do it...

 

they're clamping down on us, slower but surely. prepare for revolution.

 

The scariest part of this proposed legislation is that all your info - your new national ID number, your bio data, your social security number, driver's licence, address, name, date of birth, etc. is all in one handy little package --- and the proposal includes RFID.

RFID is what you find put into stuff so that it can't be stolen in book and record stores. That's right - it's gonna signal this info.

Good for cops - they can wave wands over the crowd and "read" everyone, looking for folks who don't have their papers or folks of interest. Of course, it also allows identity thieves to quietly "scan" the crowd harvesting tons of data.

You can't get a new SSN nor a new set of fingers, once stolen.

 

Just because the Federal Government does something doesn't mean they have the power to do it. It is the responsibility of the citizen to check up on the Government to make sure they are within their boundries. The "If they have done it, they have the power to do it" logic will lead us right into the palms of the most oppresive government you could imagine.

Article I, Section 8 of the constitution enumerates the very specific powers, and the only powers, of the Federal Government.

I see nothing about the creation of an identification card for citizens of the States in there, do you? Always question what your government is doing.

 

.......Anyone want to move into an underground bunker?

 

Yeah, I'll join you. As long as the bunker is well sheilded from the SATELLITES THAT ARE STEALING MY THOUGHTS!

 

Hahahhaha, alright, we could start an underground village.

 

fraggle rock out my brothers.....



just realized that fraggles were hippies this year......

 

If that underground village ever happens....count me in.

This national ID card thing sounds far too '1984' for my taste....

 

No. Dont start an undergroud village. Revolt against it rather than running from it. I wish I had enough people to make an army. Just a small one. We would make stuff alot better. But only using violence as a last resort.

 

They wouldn't stand for that. They'd shoot a couple of us, and then if and when we retaliated, thats when they'd turn the cameras on. We'd be viewed by the world as violent and aggressive. Then they could shoot us all up, and nobody would ever give them dsaf about it.

In war, the second person to shoot is the one that the others will attack.

Because its one countries word agianst another, so they just kill the country they don't like the most.

I was only using countrys as an example, it works with any of that type of senario, especially with just a few people.

Same in football, the second punch is the one the judges see.

 

"UPDATE: The House of Representatives has passed HR10 with the national ID database provisions in tact and mandating a standardized National Drivers License throughout the United States. The national identification system has begun. This falls in line with recommendations of the 911 Commission that called for a National Identification Card and armed checkpoints throughout America."


Armed checkpoints?! Are you fucking serious? This is fucking insane.

 

ARMED CHECKPOINTS!!! IS THIS IRAQ OR SOMETHING!?!?
Oh wow.....not happy to learn this at all....

 

Yeah I'm becoming a bit scared. I knew the oppresiveness would increase dramatically, but I didn't know it would happen this fast...

 

Arm yourselves Amerika.

 

This might seen off the topic = theres a old saying a 12 gauge shot gun kills at the Muzzle end and cripples in the rear "heavy recoil to the shoulder" Computers are the same . With the help of computers you wont be able to hide from our Big Brother. as more computer are used and link together they well know = what you buy "they can do this with many things allready" this also tracks down were you been. using road side sensor "later on" they well know when you left the house and when you return. also they well be able to track you down by your cellular phone and even pictures with those built in cameras. So my friend your ass is grass within the next 20 or 30 years. and with optic cables they can spy on anyone very easy. You think this I.D thing and law is bad "you aint seen nothing yet" .

 

Forget satellites they dont even needs those anymore. maybe to spy on another country. and not even a spy inside another country with laptop and digital camera can actually be far better than satellite. hell i forgot the cell phone with a built in camera.