Saw it last night. . . .

All I have to say is fuck michael moore.

I went to see his movie last night. Great movie. People that have a problem with it need to get over michael moore. Fuck him, it doesn't matter who made that movie, the same people wouldnt want to see it if I made it.

LETS STOP LETTING THE MESSENGER BECOME THE MESSAGE!

The movie isnt about Michael, its not about secrets or conspiracy theories. It is raw footage and facts glamorized for entertainment value. AFter all, thats what he is, an entertainer.

So to all of you that say fuck michael moore, I say YES, screw him, align your focus on the message, not the messanger.

I highly recommend everyone see it.

 

Yeah it's not like the messenger could have any relation with the type of message being displayed.

 

Becuase if the messenger isn't visually apealing he must be lying with his message.

 

That is true. Although you were trying to be facetious...

 

I saw it tonight and thought it was great - much better than I expected. Everyone should see it, regardless of their political beliefs. This is, by far, the best piece of work Michael Moore has released so far.

 

I love that movie and Micheal Moore is great. I say anyone who thinks that he is a liar is making lies for Bush.

 

Coming from rat, that is saying a lot. I have read your other posts about Moore

I saw it yesterday, and I really thought it was great. You can't dispute the facts, because Moore has video of this stuff coming right from the horses mouth. I also suggest it to everyone.

 

No, because if the messanger is a hardline liberal and known "spinner of facts," don't expect to get fair coverage or a true story.

 

Go on then Max, give us substantiated proof of every lie and factual inaccuracy point by point if you are so sure that he hasn't presented the truth.

 

I'll discuss Farenheit 9/11 with you after I see it, but given Michael Moore's track record with Roger and Me, Bowling for Columbine, and his books, I'm not expecting fair coverage or unbiased presentation. Hell, Moore himself even admits that his movies only present his opinion, and his opinion is an extreme one unlike mine. If you think that his books and movies are a good source of "truth," you're shitting yourself.

 

I can't wait to see it. Micheal Moore is my favorite director. I really enjoyed his other stuff, and by comments of others, this will be another great movie.

 

Michael Moore is an expert at lying without it actually comming out of his mouth.

http://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

 

Moore must of hired a stunt double for all those clips with Bush in them...Of course Moore is making a movie showing his opinion...but that doesn't mean that there isn't any truth to the facts he is presenting.

You don't have to like it, but that doesn't mean you can just dismiss all the video clips of Bush and all the interviews with soldiers and families as lies.

 

Unfortunately, here it was only playing in two theaters, considering how many theaters we have here and the fact that there isn't much else to do in most areas of this state, I find it extremely sad that they would not play it elsewhere so that people at least have the opportunity to decide if they want to see it. I'm curious, was that the case elsewhere?

 

Who even knows what the truth is anymore?

My mom, who voted for Bush & plans on voting for him again this November, is calling F911 "propaganda." Even if it is, I'd sure as hell rather be watching anti-war/anti-Bush propaganda than pro-war/pro-Bush propaganda.

I saw the movie tonight. I thought it was incredible, but I took everything with a grain of salt. That said, it still impossible to dispute the fact that people have died unnecessarily or the corporate links between Bush & the Saudis.

peace
cortnee

 

All media in some form or another is propaganda. Michael Moore certainly is opinionated and most definitely has an agenda of removing Bush from the oval office.

I have seen Bowling for Columbine and have read through the website Bowling for Truth and yes, in that movie there were many false statements made.

Where Faranheit differs is that no matter what direction you turn, no one has been able to prove any of the facts and/or connections Michael made to be false.

 

Um...now have you seen it?

You know, ANY documentary is going to be slanted and affected by the opinions of the people who made it. I don't really think there is such a thing as unbiased presentation. Simply selecting which information will be included and editing a documentary involves bias. They're inseparable. The evening news is biased. Which information is made available to us and which is filtered out and ignored is decided based on biases. The difference with F9/11 is that the bias is from a dissident point of view. Just because you don't agree with MM's views doesn't make the information presented in the film false.

See it before you draw conclusions. And then, if you still don't approve of it, that's fine, but at least you'll be basing your opinion on fact.... the fact that you've actually seen it.

Otherwise, aren't you just generalizing, based on what you know of his other works?

 

My mother reccomended this film to two teenagers that she knows, both of them are parents, neither are hippies or activists, and after seeing the film they have decided not to join the military. Before seeing F9/11 they were considering it because of the poverty they live in and the pressure of recruiters.

 

The Sunday NY Times had an interesting article about the film - "Will Michael Moore's Facts Check Out?"

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/06/20/movies/20SHEN.html?pagewanted=print&position=

Quote:After a year spent covering the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, I was recently allowed to attend a Hollywood screening. Based on that single viewing, and after separating out what is clearly presented as Mr. Moore's opinion from what is stated as fact, it seems safe to say that central assertions of fact in "Fahrenheit 9/11" are supported by the public record (indeed, many of them will be familiar to those who have closely followed Mr. Bush's political career).

 

sorry, but that's not true. he admits to having his opinion intertwined in with the facts, but the movie provides facts. open your eyes. many other sources say these things too.