warts: sexual death sentence?

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by sadboy54321, Jul 17, 2005.

  1. RetroGroove_Grrl

    RetroGroove_Grrl I'm a big girl now

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    cmon velvet, if someone said to you, "I've got herpes, wanna fuck, you might catch it, and theres no cure"

    Would you do it, I mean REALLY?
     
  2. Rafaela

    Rafaela Member

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    exactly! geez. some people haev their head in the clouds
     
  3. tropisms

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    lol drama queen? So you wouldn't mind if someone gave you a STD?

    As far as the OP goes, if you do have warts/HPV it will hurt your sex live, but not so much that you will have to be alone forever.
     
  4. velvet

    velvet Banned

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    hey people.. don't forget the first poster here said that he is with this girl already for a year! It's not like he's a total stranger to her.. plus if he has an STD (and he didn't say that he cheated) he might have it because she cheated on him! So why are we even talking about how this guy should be dumped? Ofcourse I wont happily have sex with a guy with an std, but if my boyfriend now would come to me and say there is something wrong, we would have to sit down and have a serious talk about it. The sole fact of the 'imperfectment' of the warts or whatever that girl just called it, wouldn't make a difference because I truely love my boyfriend.. the 'how did you get an std' part would be a hell of a lot more important. and if he had been the one cheating, than thàt would (maybe) be a reason for a break up, again, not the sole fact that he has the warts.
     
  5. dawn_sky

    dawn_sky Senior Member

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    Wow. Having to have a breast removed due to cancer could affect the other person in that he may have to cope with the woman's breast cancer coming back, supporting her through chemo, etc. Other than that, it is a purely superficial condition that poses no harm to his health.

    HPV (genital warts), on the other hand, is a contagious disease which has been shown to increase a woman's risk of cervical cancer.

    I would have to say you're comparing apples to oranges here.

    To the OP, see a doctor to find out whether your self-diagnosis is right before you start worrying about your future sex life. If you do have it, talk to the doc about treatment options and how to avoid transmission to a new partner. But your sex life is not doomed.
     
  6. velvet

    velvet Banned

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    when it comes to the severness of the illness, yes. But I was merely pointing out to the girl how easily it would be for her to get a 'bodily imperfection', since she was so eager to state that she is realistic enough to not be able to stay with someone with a 'bodily imperfection'. She didn't talk about something being contagious or whatever, just about having an imperfection. Wanted to point that out, because I don't know how perfect she thinks she is, but even if she has a killer body, she could lose it in no time.
     
  7. Rafaela

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    *hugs velvet* I feel you man. it seems we have opposing views because maybe our current life situation is probably swaying us into obvious bias. you have a bf you naturally love and I'm single untamed and uncommited. it makes sense. peace friend
     
  8. velvet

    velvet Banned

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    wow.. that's an awesome reaction.. never expected that one! But you're right.. my standards were different when I was single as well.. wanted a big guy that I could cuddle up to and would feel safe in his arms.. now I'm living together with a guy that's shorter than me! Hehe.. go figure. Sometimes it's still a bit hard, for both of us.. but most of the time we are totally ok with it and even joke around about it. So.. yeah.. things just happen and it's always fun to picture the 'perfect' guy, perfect body.. hmmmmmm! :) If you find the perfect soul in that perfect body is a different question though, but you can always hope! :D

    Sorry to have been so harsh on you sis.. *hug*
     
  9. whatutalkinbout

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    Within this thread I don't know what the ignorance level is. I say this because this is a serious issue. If you are truly not educated on the subject, don't comment. In addition to that (Kingwood) your words of "encouragement" are little needed here. Anyway...:rolleyes:

    Lets get the real. Warts can be present anywhere. But in this case we are talking about genital (being that sex was involved) . Warts is treatable (by freezing with Nitroeous gas, the wart(s) fall off). I won't say its neccessarily uncurable, because warts can come back (just like in the case of Herpes outbreaks ) you can have warts and get them froze off and they may not come back for years but its still there. It is contagious, when present, it is said (just like Herpes) that there are periods of shedding; during that time it can be transmitted.

    In taking this step of having sex, you need to take responsibility for the possible outcome; in addition to that it is also your responsibility to be educated on all outcomes that may occur. If no one has ever told you I will be the first, A HOUR OF PLEASURE (lets be real your first time is never that long) IS NOT WORTH A LIFETIME OF PAIN. That being said get checked to be sure (from health sites i've read warts aren't painful, pls excuse my ignorance), for your health as well as your partner.

    This isn't a death sentence being that it isn't a terminal disease such as HIV (and I will comment on the comparison in a minute) it is treatable, but it probably is a lifestyle modification. In 2005 I believe we all need to be more educated on HIV/AIDS it is our age group (meaning those on this site) who are the #1 group that are dying from HIV. I say that cause I know you all know better than to compare AIDS to warts, thats a big stretch.

    I wish you all the luck an I hope you are clean. Its easy to give a prsn ideas but honestly I don't know what I would do myself if in that situation, so my heart goes out to you. O, about dating. There are sites out that educated people on stds (there is a forum on it, I read it earlier) so I'm sure there are sites for support or dating. If thats what you need.
     
  10. whatutalkinbout

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    I was just thinking, If you've been together for a year, 9 times out of 10 both of you have it, and I don't think I have to say both partners may not show symptoms, or you may get symptoms and don't know they are symptoms.

    A few yrs ago I came into contact with a guy who told me he had an std, THANK GOD HE TOLD ME BEFORE WE HAD SEX what I'm getting at is everyone won't be so honest and they will leave your health in their hands. That is why I'm so educated on these subjects. But, I talked to my doctor about the risk that it posed on my health and how to protect myself, even though I did my research I was too scared to stay with him anyway. Okay I'm through I didn't mean to talk so much, but it bothers me when ppl post things and it shows they don't care.

    People please surround yourself with positive people.
     
  11. Davino

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    you are a dickish person, STFU, this kid needs help...
     
  12. sadboy54321

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    Thank you to all who have posted helpful and caring comments: SkeeterVT, Rafaela, and especially whatutalkinbout. Everyone who is at all interested in the facts should read whatutalkinbout's posts. She speaks the truth.

    If you want even more information, check these links, but be prepared for some frightening pictures: http://scc.uchicago.edu/hpv.htm, also http://www.thebody.com/sowadsky/symptoms/symptoms.html

    I am planning to go to get tested this week, but I'm sure that I have them.

    The warts that I see growing are quite small, not really that visible, but definitely there. They don't hurt at all. They would not be a problem, but, there is a huge, HUGE stigma associated with having them.

    I don't think she has cheated on me, and I know I have not cheated. In the OP, I said that I was a virgin. I did not mention that she has a lot of history. We discussed this before, and she was sure that she did not have any STDs, but I later found out that she has never been tested.

    As I see it, I have two options: marry this woman, or commit myself to never dating again and remaining alone for the rest of my life. I love her enough to marry her, but I am so F***ing Furious at her right now that I don't know if I can get over it.

    I'll discuss it with her when I know for sure, one way or the other. There's no point in hurting her and destroying what could be the last relationship either one of us ever has without proof.

    Thank you all, again.
     
  13. whatutalkinbout

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    SADBOY,

    You are welcome! this is too serious to make b.s. comments. Since she has never been tested why don't you go together, although dishonest she doesn't need to know the situation. You two need to care about each others health. When I was told by an ex that he had something (although it was years before) I still told the guy I was dating. Because it was a possibility that I could have been exposed because he didn't know how long he had it. I didn't want to make a decision for the man I was dating, in addition to that If I had something and didn't tell him what if he had sex with someone else, that is how stds are spread because people are not honest.

    If she is sexually active and has a period she knows she should go to the ob/gyn. Since you are educating yourself educated her. Okay, I'm through. Good Luck! TTFN
     
  14. SpliffVortex

    SpliffVortex Senior Member

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    Genital warts, sometimes called venereal warts, are contracted through sexual contact. They're spread by direct, skin-to-skin contact during vaginal, anal, or oral sex with an infected person. (Infants can be infected by their mothers during birth, but this is rare.)


    Genital warts are caused by certain types of the human papillomavirus (HPV). But other common types of HPV that cause warts on the hands and the soles of the feet do not cause genital warts.


    Genital HPV infection is one of the most common sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) in the world. In fact, scientists estimate that as many as 6 million new cases of genital warts are diagnosed in the United States each year.


    What Are the Signs and Symptoms?
    Genital warts:



    are growths or bumps that appear in and around the vagina or anus or on the cervix in females or on the penis, scrotum, groin, or thigh in males
    can be raised or flat, single or multiple, or small or large
    can cluster together to form a cauliflower-like shape
    are usually flesh-colored and painless


    One difficulty with genital HPV exposure is that it may take several months or years after infection for symptoms to appear - if there are even symptoms at all. The average incubation period is 1 to 6 months, but this can vary. Sometimes, the warts are so small and flat that they may not be noticed immediately.


    In women, HPV can invade the vagina and cervix. These warts may be flat and invisible. Because the virus can lead to changes in the cervix that may lead to cancer, it's important that this condition is diagnosed and treated. Men infected with HPV can also be at risk for cancer of the penis and the anus.

    But not all genital warts caused by HPV lead to cancer - approximately 10 to 15 of the 30 or more genital HPV types can cause the development of cancer.

    Are They Contagious?
    Genital warts are transmitted through sexual contact with an infected person. HPV can be contracted via anal, oral, and vaginal intercourse, and warts can appear within several weeks or months after sexual relations.


    The virus is passed through skin-to-skin contact, but not everyone who's been exposed to the virus will develop genital warts. About two thirds of those who have sexual contact with an infected person will contract HPV.


    More than 100 types of HPV have been identified; approximately one third of those are spread through sexual contact and live only in the genital tissue.

    Can They Be Prevented?
    Like most STDs, genital warts can be avoided by not having sex or by having sex only with one uninfected partner.

    Condoms offer some protection against genital warts, but they can't completely prevent them because the warts can be outside of the area protected by the condom. Spermicidal foams, creams, and jellies have not been proven to protect against HPV and genital warts.


    How Are They Treated?
    Most genital warts require two or more professional treatments. However, there's no cure for an HPV infection because treatment just removes the genital warts it causes.


    The various therapies available for genital warts include:



    putting prescription medications on the warts
    freezing the warts with liquid nitrogen (called cryosurgery)
    using laser treatment


    There are some chemical creams that can be used at home to treat genital warts, but you should ask your child's doctor which one to use. If your teen is sexually active, it's also important to discuss the different approaches with his or her doctor because some of these treatments shouldn't be used during pregnancy.


    Because the HPV remains dormant in the body, genital warts may reappear at any time after treatment. Those who have had one occurrence of genital warts should be aware that they still carry the virus and can infect others. Women need to be especially careful - warts can invade the vagina and cervix, resulting in increased risk of more serious diseases.

    How Long Do They Last?
    Because HPV is a virus, it can lie dormant in a person's body for any amount of time before it produces visible genital warts. If someone contracts HPV, it's likely to remain in his or her system for a lifetime and eventually cause genital warts to appear recurrently. In some cases, though, the immune system fights off the virus or reduces it to almost nonexistent levels.


    Depending on which type of treatment is the most appropriate for an outbreak of genital warts, removal of the warts can take a few hours or longer. Although treatments can get rid of the warts, the virus will remain in the body and the warts may reappear.


    When Should I Call My Child's Doctor?
    Because of the connection of some types of HPV to cancer, genital warts should be taken seriously and treated immediately. If you notice any type of unusual growths on your child's genitals or anus or your child complains of these growths, you should call your child's doctor.


    Genital warts are contracted sexually, so if your child develops them, it's a reason for concern. The discovery of any type of STD in your child should trigger suspicion of sexual abuse or sexual activity. It's important to consider and investigate all possibilities to protect the health of your child.


    What Should I Do if My Child Has Genital Warts?
    STDs are upsetting for anyone, but they're especially disturbing when they occur in a child. Talk to your child in a supportive way about his or her involvement in sexual activity. Your child may be a victim of sexual abuse and could be embarrassed or ashamed to talk about it. If you suspect abuse may be the cause of the genital warts (as is almost always the case in a young child), you should investigate further.


    If your child or teen is sexually active, talk honestly and directly about why this behavior is risky. Although it may be difficult, don't condemn your child for the behavior. This may cause your child to rebel or become withdrawn.


    You can find help in a variety of places. The first step is to talk to your child's doctor. He or she will treat the physical symptoms and can refer you to other professionals who can help with any emotional or psychological issues you or your child may be experiencing. Your child's doctor also can help connect you with the appropriate authorities or agencies if sexual abuse is suspected.
     
  15. persephonewillow

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    dude, HPV sucks. but it isn't a sex-life death sentence. it surely doesn't mean you will be unable to have sex ever again except with your current girlfriend. if you break up with this girl, be honest with potential partners and know the facts of HPV (potential partners ask a lot of questions before deciding 'yes' or 'no' with you).

    good luck!

    -z
     
  16. whatutalkinbout

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    Spliff Education is the key, I think dude needed that info.

    *Warts mean you have to use a condom from now on, which might as well be sexual death sentence.

    And condoms aren't a death sentence . Having sex with someone like you would be cause you would be more likely to be a carrier of something because you don't have safe sex. I hate to hear things like that, and we wonder why stds are so prevalent in America. Majority of Americans have stds and don't even know it.

    O, and for those of you looking in the mirror and see a cold sore guess what, thats an std you have herpes. For those of you whose coochies stink and have greenish discharge guess what you have an std. I could go on and on with symptoms people have and they think its nothing.
     
  17. sadboy54321

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    I was finally able to get a time at the clinic today.

    My diagnosis was confirmed: HPV. No cure ever, and very easy to spread.

    That result was immediate. They ran a whole bunch of other tests for other diseases, and it will take 2 weeks to get those results back from the lab.

    So, in one short relationship, I have gone straight from virgin church boy who struggled and kept it zipped for 39 years, to used sexual garbage with an incurable condition.

    Maybe someone who reads this can benefit. I had decided that the abstinence people were insane and wrong. Now, I'm living proof that they may have a point.

    Brothers and Sisters, please educate yourselves and be careful. Don't end up like me.
     
  18. andcrs2

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    Get a second test/opinion at a different clinic before planning the balance of your Life.
    This is a standard/usual and customary procedure in the Medical profession.

    Mistakes have been made before...

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Almost forgot - condoms are also used as a BC method not as cruel/unusual punishment...


     
  19. dawn_sky

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    Even if she had been tested during a standard gyno exam, there is a good chance they would not have included a test for HPV if she had no outward symptoms and a normal pap. That's the scary thing about this virus -- normal incubation may average around 3 months, but it can stay dormant for years. Having been to planned parenthood, one department of health office, and my school's health center, the only tests I've ever been offered for no extra charge were HIV, gonorrhea, clamydia, and syphillis. When I asked about HPV (don't remember which doc that was, but a few years ago), they told me that it was not worth the cost of testing if I had no symptoms and did not have definite reason to worry (like found out that an ex has warts, tho not symptomatic myself).

    So how many people out there HAVE been tested and have in good faith done the best they could to be sure they were clean, but are still spreading this?
     
  20. lynsey

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    I imagine it would hurt a great deal to have that information with held from you-very painful and creates a huge lack of trust, just devestating when you think someone has your best interest at heart and wants to take care of you yet they put you in harms way. You thought they loved you and you realize that although they may now at the time they wanted to have sex with you so bad that they forgoed honest6y; how do you not be upset at that?I completley agree the guy you were with did the right thing by letting you know he was exposed to it. Just some info from genral knowledge you can have hpv and not have it show up in a pap even if you have all the symptoms. its a tricky disease to diagnose unless you have actual warts, which not all types of hpv cause. OP-tell your girl to get tested right away as hpv can cause cervical cancer-specific types of hpv that is.
     
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