Cloning

I guess there are good and bad points about everything but to do with implanting memory, i had this conversation with a fellow science student yesterday actually. He was talking about implanting a deceased child's memory into a newborn/sibling. He was excited about the idea but i didn't like it at all. It would be very hard for those parents to separate both children, a lot of psychoanalysis would incur, i think the newborn child deserves it's own life and for the parents to let the deceased baby go. In areas like this, it's difficult to appease both sides especially when they are both strong viewpoints filled with passion and emotion.

 

Tamper with life? How do you think all life on Earth including us came to exist? Evolution is not the answer and we were not created by a supernatural God. All life on Earth, including us, were created by scientists from another planet using genetic engineering. If these scientists didn't "tamper with life" then there would be no life on our planet and we wouldn't exist. Yes, life should be created in a lab. That is our legacy!

 

what a wonderful disposition you have, very 80s.

 

"We built this city, we built this city on rock and roll"

 

i think the most beneficial use of cloning is for statistics sake. if you do psychological or physiological tests on clones.. you can distinguish between genetic and environmental effects.

this has massive implications for brain-study, which subsequently has implications across practically everything human-related.

 

oh and yeh, silly raelians, you cant fuckin upload and download memory. its sad that the uploading and downloading of memory is the central basis for raelians.

the day we can take memory and store it outside of the mind is gonna be a world so differnet to our own today that you cant predict or even CONCIEVE it as reality

 

I think cloning well be the next big advancment for the world. If you lose an arm, or a leg, you could clone a new one. I don't think it would be available for our generation, prehaps our childrens though. The only bad thing would be that it would be very costly and wouldn't be available to someone with a low income. And I doubt that it would be covered in your HMO's

 

clone a new arm eh?

 

what about a new head?

 

I'm pretty sure scientists are able to replace telomeres. Cancers are able to do so, and we know how cancers affect telomeres, so that information can be applied..

We, as humans, have thrown that whole 'survival of the fittest' thing out the window, and we expect a lot from modern medicine, so cloning is a way of 'keeping up with demand' by unlocking more realms of biology and how the body works.

Cloning is pretty much creating an indentical twin, but not necessarily having each twin at the same age. Indentical twins have different personality traits, and physical traits due to their environment. We don't freak out at identical twins, (well, some of us might..)

I'm pretty sure a clone could be made today, with a good chance of survival. Ethical issues are stopping it. I'm sure that scientists don't wanna release a huge set of clones into society, i'm sure they respect the fact that genetic variation leads to specie robustness and fitness, and wouldn't wanna compromise this - so it's not gonna get out of hand. I'm all for it.

Anyway.. Asexual reproduction (some bacteria/plants/corals/jellyfish and more) means that the 2nd generation has the same genetic material as the first, and cloning pretty much does the same.

 

if you can find a way to make telomeres stop going away then you have an unlimited lifespan

 

But there are certain cell types that don't undergo mitosis so your nervous system/brain/heart etc, would give up on you eventually

 

are you surea the heart doesnt undergo mitosis? that doesnt make much sense, theres tonnes of muscles there and heaps of fluid running through it. the nervous system o th other hand.. well if that underwent mitosis youd lose all your intelligence

though old people do lose their thinkning ability.

why dont we ask the raelians to let us use their memory transfer machinery

 

That's the gist of stem cell research--for the stem cell to start to mime the surrounding cells and become like them.

Oh, and they did some research in Europe(Spain, I think...)and are able to clone nerve cells by the billions at will.

It will come to the point--sorry, HAS come to the point that doctors can harvest a good number of stem cells from your skin in your arm(a bit painful), petrie dish 'em and clone them in massive numbers, and harvest them with a bit of...lets say a part of your liver that wasn't affected by cancer.

Grow a new liver, take the infected liver out, and PRESTO.

That we're just a few years of helping people with nerve disorders and spinal injuries is true...

 

I don't see how its wrong.