Enough the movie

Discussion in 'Men's Issues' started by Green, Jul 21, 2005.

  1. Green

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    Has anybody seen this movie? What do you think of it?
     
  2. Green

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    ITS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DEAD ON HERE!!!!!!!!! I've been here like 3 times and no new posts.
     
  3. Megara

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    i thought the movie was HORRIBLE.

    How anyone could glorify what jennifer lopez did is beyond me!

    She breaks into his house..she steals his stuff..SHE strikes him...and then when he fights back, and she kills him it is called 'self defense?'

    fucking horrible..it is pure trash.
     
  4. Green

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    Know whats worse? After the teacher showed us that movie in health class, we all agreed with it, we all thought it was justified. I was kindof in the middle but... it just shows the effect television has on a persons mind, and how easily it is to convince teenagers of things. Thats why its illegal for teachers to give their opinions (like the war on terror is bad) to teenagers.
     
  5. Shampoo

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    i never seen it...
     
  6. shameless_heifer

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    And what was it again that drove her to such extream measures?!?!? That NO ONE has mentioned, only how horrible she reacted. Not what drove her to it.
    Y'all get all involved when it's the man being subdued. This is TV, this was to make the actress look good, this does not happen on a regular basis in real life, ON occation yes, but not on the norm. In fact it's the opposit.

    Like Ranger says.. "Walk in Balance"
     
  7. Shaitan

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    I haven't seen the film. But what I know is this.

    If someone comes into my house and starts hitting me, I am allowed to fight. And if he is using lethal force I can kill him.

    But.... if some guy comes into my house, beats me up, and goes away, and I feel really bad about it, hurt, abused, ashamed I got a beat down, I'm not allowed to go to his house and ambush him.

    If the movie indicates that it's somehow OK for women to go into someone else's house and ambush him lethally, that's dangerous. Because in some states she'll get lethal injection for it.
     
  8. Green

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    Did you see the movie? She took the daughter and got out, and left to a state far away where she learned to fight. Then she snuck into his house and killed him. When the police asker her she claimed self defense.

    We thought it was justified, but it wasn't. You'd have to see the movie. The teacher said it wasn't either.
     
  9. shameless_heifer

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    I saw the movie.
    Let me ask you this. If a Bear came into your home and was trying to kill you night after night and you had children there and you were terrorized and hurt and scared for your lives knowing it was going tro kill you, would you not hunt this beast down and distroy it with all you have. Would you not go into it's very cave and kill the beast to save yourself and your offspring?!? Do we not have the right to protect ourselves when being threatend with death. Or are you saying that we are to stay at home and wait to be slaughterd while doing our wash. I disagree.
    When we kill fireants we don't just get rid of them in our house we go to the mound and kill the leader.
     
  10. ihmurria

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    you make it sound as if these people are just animals to be hunted down and killed. I know abusers aren't much better, but they're still human and there are laws against hunting someone down. Do you hit your partner over the nose with a newspaper when they do something wrong? Rub their nose in it and tell them they're bad? No, because people are people and should be treated as such, no matter how awful they have been to other people.
     
  11. Shaitan

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    RE: Let me ask you this. If a Bear came into your home and was trying to kill you night after night and you had children there and you were terrorized and hurt and scared for your lives knowing it was going tro kill you

    Shaneless, they're talking about a particular instance in a particular movie. Enough is a revenge film. She was in no imminent danger when she decided on "payback" which is not legal or justified.
     
  12. mystical_shroom

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    why do you always compare men to animals? I notice that with all of your posts..
    Why do you continually come in the "MENS FORUM" and start trouble, and you do start trouble..Lord knows if a man came into the womens forum and stated the things you did, they would probably be banned or something along the lines, it just wouldnt be tolerated. You have a severe problem with men, I understand you were hurt in your past, but so have many many others and they dont continue to put men down whenever they can. Do you have children? If so, is one of them a male? How would you feel if someone was talking about your son in this manner, the way you talk or discribe males as animals and less of a being is really uncalled for...
     
  13. Shaitan

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    RE: you make it sound as if these people are just animals to be hunted down and killed

    Er, read her posts.

    She doesn't have a problem with all men - look at her biker brother who comes in to chime in about how great she is. Mind you, he does go on at great lengh about how much he agrees with her....

    Maybe that's the way to help her out. Scrape and bow and enthusiastically agree with her, then subtly shift away from "men are brutal beasts of burden who deserve to be put in ovens, except for the "house men" (to quote Malcolm X)" which is the S.C.U.M manifesto, to "men are scum" which is society's take, to "not all men are scum" to "some men are scum"? But do it really slowly, like boiling a frog alive.
     
  14. shameless_heifer

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    I compare a beast with beastly behavior. I dont know if any of you have been brutilized but when this is taking place it does become animaliztic behavior and cannot be stopped by reasoning. Brute Force=Amimal Mentality. I was speaking of Abusers Not ALL Men. Your not hearing the message, your picking my statements apart.
    Your poisting in a mens forum, but you dis me for it.
    If you cannot hear the message it's not from it not being told.
    Unless you know how a Lemon Taste you cannot say it is sour, only that you heard it was, you cannot even judge what sour is unless you have tasted sour..
    What I say comes from the heart of experience, where does what you say come from.
    Not Everyone Knows how horrible abuse is no matter who's doing the abusing it's Horrible. I was relating with abuse to my own experiences. That's all I have to go by, what I have wittenessed and experienced, what are you going by. Why do you contenuely drag me in the mud for what I state my feelings to be in an open forum about issues that I have experienced..It is the truth. Are not my words worthy as testomony. Are they Not as valid as your opinion. HUMM. Leaves a question about your own intent doesnt it.
    We are Animals, we are a spieces of the Human Kind. We evolved from animal exsistance, some evolved faster then others. There are throw backs from when we needed force to protect. It is instint. Read up on the subject and then come and shoot me down, when you are armed with some knowledge.
    Shroom,I pray you find enlightenment.
     
  15. shameless_heifer

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    AS for the MOVIE, it is a movie. What the victoms of abuse suffer is real.
    Ohh PS
    "If you have nothing nice to post then fuck off".
    Live by what you expect from other.
    To Thine own self be true.

    In Love and Light
    SH
     
  16. kif

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    Thats the main point IMO, and it should be left at that. It isnt a true story, it's a film about a fictional character. People dont need to get into arguments and lash out at each other. I'm just trying to be a peace maker here.
     
  17. Green

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    People thought it was justified though. So television can controll our minds!
     
  18. xdianax

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    Wow. I saw that movie with my family and we all thought it was horrible. I almost laughed because it was so ridiculous. Especially in the end, when I recall a cop saying to Jennifer Lopez, "You were one of the lucky ones." Ummm, what justifies that comment when she completely beat up and killed her husband, with barely a scratch on her. The movie was completely far-fetched, making the husband out to be this completely "evil" man who had like a billion equally-evil friends (willing to do anything for him), was "connected" everywhere, and couldn't be touched by the police or anyone. It was the ultimate victim story, and I had no respect for the film.

    :) In love,

    Diana
     
  19. David54

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    It's really pretty disturbing. I haven't seen the movie. But the discussion is enough. The whole idea that abused people are justified in abusing others just perpetuates the whole thing. The idea of vigilante justice being used to deal with these issues has been growing, and it is disturbing.
     
  20. Green

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    Its very disturbing.
     

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