Lifetime Television Network, The evil side of the force

Yes, there you go, every single damn movie every damn sunday I am at home... I have 2 women sitting and watching lifetime. I walk in to the room, I get sick and start arguing about why they enjoy watching innocent angelic, pure hearted angel race of womanhood being destroyed by the evil , power hungry, lustful, degrading demonic race of "men". Then they switch this entire argument around and explain why men are evil and completely ignore my point.

Now these 2 women are not the only ones i have seen in my life watch lifetime. there are others.. well 6 women actually but they all watch the fricking channel. I hate this stupid channel. Its degrading, its stupid and it feels like they are destroying what is left of good men in the damn society. Every fricking sunday... every fricking sunday!!!!>

 

what are your thoughts about soap operas...(lame joke, haha yeah...)
I see what point you are trying to make but this is a tough situation cause women can say the same thing about some of the other tv stations that are male based, what there are none, nevermind...
You cant let a tv station or a movie, show, sitcom, bother you so much. I know, things on the tele bother me, but thats when i just hit off...and the two women whoever they are, i wouldnt waste an ounce of breath on them cause they probably wont listen..just let them enjoy their Lifetime, I guess...

 

well it doesn't bother me much personally but it does bother my moral conscience...well.. its still wrong for them to watch someone else suffer and enjoy the movie... thats just not right

 

your moral conscious is you, or a part of you so it does bother you.. its not wrong for anyone to watch anything..
I didnt really realize Lifetime was such a big deal..who's suffering? you lost me here...

 

Okay let me put this simply this way: Lifetime has 80% of the movies where women are killed by stalkers, rapists, destroyers of all that is good... who are the men. Now, at the end ofcourse they go to jail , but at what cost? a girl dies, her mother cries and the story is about the mother's struggle to get these guys to a fricking jail. How This TV network is watched by many women... its a woman network!!! and so my question would be why so many women enjoy watching other women suffer? its just not right.

 

Im not retarded so you dont have to insult my intelligence guy..
Did you read your post after you wrote it cause it sounds like your mad cause people watch Lifetime...I dont like religious channels so therefore i dont watch them. What did you expect from a womens network station? Whats the argument here? I dont watch Lifetime, didn't know it had so many fans...Did you know a lot of children watch PBS, what point are you making?

 

sigh ... never mind, I will just go read harry potter.

 

No, dont get aggravated with me or anything, Im just trying to understand (i am actually being serious this time)....

 

no its not that I am being aggravated by you...

Okay, what i am trying to say is that it is disturbing to find so much media is being put out complete garbage and anything that is very stereotypical of men and women ... and it is a fact. Now, indulging in such media will only cause more and more brainwashing and besides, its not even fun, its stupid, in one of the movies, I think the girl gets tricked and her pictures are put on a website or something like some form of pornography. Now , her life gets destroyed... they show these types of movies here, what fun is this? I don't understand that. Now, maybe this is the wrong forum to post this under... maybe this belongs to the women's issues forum... who knows.

 

ahhh okay, that explains a little better...
Lifetime is very stereotypical wont argue with that, a chimp can see that. Same with the show they have on Fox called, Starting Over..have you seen that? Lifetime has movies that are real life stories most of the time, that are always the same, like you said..the male is always the enemy and the woman is always helpless and wants revenge..its like that all the time..
They need to play movies that show both sides, like "Play Misty For Me" which shows about a guy being stalked..oh but i guess people will say he deserved what he got in that movie cause he couldnt keep his dick in his pants, same with "Fatal Attraction"...
I see where your arguement in coming from..though i dont know if my post made any sense or not..probably not..

 

RE: women can say the same thing about some of the other tv stations that are male based, what there are none, nevermind...

Spike TV? Features explosions, car chases, pro wrestling and T&A.

As for anti-male bias in media, for the first few decades of TV the biggest audience was women. Soap operas are exactly that - melodramas put on by Proctor and Gamble basically to hook people in to watch ads for soaps and other products. And they are BIG business. Of course they're gonna play into the fantasies of women - women getting back at beaters, rapists, etc. When you're told every man is a potential rapist and hey wow, your husband is a jerk too like all the rest (of course, nobody's picked up on how every woman on TV with a husband is a castrating smart-mouthed nagging bitch, and how many men identify with that) you play to your crowd.

And as for Play Misty for me: Yeah, we need more of those kinds of movies. There ARE bunny boilers out there. But most of the time it's played for laughs, like the girl in Wayne's World who wouldn't leave Wayne alone.

Best lines in any movie:

Girl: "What should I do?"
Garth: "Get over it and go out with someone else?"

 

Not comparable with the kind of sickness you see on lifetime! sigh, why are you banned?

 

Maybe these movies are to open the eyes of young and trusting women to what can happen incertain surcumstances. As an illistration of what has happen to many.
If you dont like to watch it then dont watch it.

 

I would say Spike TV is just as stereotypical as lifetime

it's not sickness though. Those are true stories. It happens to a lot of people, and a lot of men. The purpose isnt to be hateful towards men, the purpose is to show women they aren't alone.

Plus, some girls really like to watch sad things, especially when extra emotional. Ever hear a girl say she needs a good cry?

For the record, I dont' watch it. I can't stand seeing movie after movie about sappy stuff. The only time I switch it on is if Golden Girls is on or something.

 

You know, As many time as I was battered (over 15 yrs 4 different abusers) I never saught revenge. I never saw a lot of revenge in the shelthers either, not even at the Crisis Centers around the country.
Mostly there was Fear, Confusion, and Self Doubt. I'm sure some women seek revenge, but mostly they want OUT.
It was the men that mostly wanted revenge on the woman for leaving and taking the kids away.
The stories on lifetime are just a reflection of todays society. All the stories are not just about battereing women. There are stories about missing children and there are also stories about abused men. It's not a male bashing channel.
I watch some shows on lifetime, but mostly the sitcoms occasionaly. I get to sad over the hard core tales, hurts my heart to watch ones go through the pain and suffering I survived so many yrs ago. Men, Women and Children suffer, all of us have lessons to learn. If these shows help bring understanding and light to some and they gain hope and strenght from them, then why are they contuned to be scoffed at when they are real and true and do help some.. BC they make men look on the slant.
If these stories be true and real and men see and feel threathened, imagain how we feel, if this is what our selves and our daughters/sons have to look forward to.
There has to be a way to stop all abuse.
I belive it starts with the individual, each of us has to change to improve the quality of living for ourselves. The Law cannot change people, we have to change ourselves.

 

opps

 

I apologize and yes you are right , if this helps in stopping the abuse then it is well worth it, but i wish there was a better way to stop the abuse, I think we as humans have a weakness and that is the violence that we inflict on people whom we think are somehow "inferior". Yet, no one deserves any kind of abuse, whether that maybe physical, mental or any other.

But don't you think we have to change the way we raise our young, apart from gender distinctions, treating them with love and compassion , away from the common stereotypes we force them into.

 

Having raised six boys and two girls, and been a partisipent in domestic violence I have tried to teach both genders that violence is not the answer. That communication and comprimise is essential for a healthy, balanced relationship.

I did assign chores based on gender to some degree. But I taught the boys to do domestic things, cooking, sewing and caring for their basic needs, as well as teaching the girls to do things that the boys usually did, like feeding the livestock, driving the tractor and such.

I think growing up in the country is a little diffrent that being raised in the city.
Country kids have more work to do then most city kids. There also isnt much trouble to get into, bc, it's a ways to town. Not as much oppertunity to get into trouble, and the values are somewhat more strick then city dwellers I have noticed.

 

Honestly, I hate Lifetime shows and movies. I think they stereotype both men and womyn. People in these movies are either totally good or totally evil. There is rarely an real character development.

I don't watch the channel at all anymore. But for the revenge thing, none of the many abused womyn I know want revenge, they just want to be SAFE and have their children SAFE and to live their lives without someone making them afraid. I've known many abused womyn, and never known one who wanted to or tried to get revenge.

I know a man who is definately emotionally abused by his wife and my guess is that he may be physically abused, also. She doesn't allow him to have friends she doesn't approve of (he used to be my dh's best buddy, but his wife has some paranoid fantasies about our family and now doesn't let him near my dh.) This womyn screams at him, and once, many years ago, when we were freinds with them, we just walked out of thier house during dinner because she was being so abusive to the man. Nice thing for his sons to see, huh?

This womyn actually had the nerve to call me up once, crying, to tell me that her then 4 year old son told her he was never getting married. When she asked him why he said, "I don't want some lady always yellin at me and tellin me what to do, like you do to daddy." I was supposed to feel bad for HER in this situation. The womyn in question is a severe Borderline Personality, and it is sad that she has children under her roof. I can't imagine what kind of lives they will lead, or what kind of relationships they will have with a womyn like this for a mother and a father who can't stand up and say "Enough!"

 

From a another woman's perspective, I happen to agree Jedi. Why any woman would want to spend their Sunday watching some man degrade/rape/murder/'do them wrong' etc..etc..etc.. is beyond me. I used to watch a few of those movies but after awhile it's depressing. The same story line is outlined is most of them.
I do agree with what you are saying about sterotyping men and women. I think as a society we have risen above that. Not to get on a soapbox, but I choose not to watch it.