An End to Terror? Not bloody likely

How may we defeat terrorism?

My good friend, Susan Artfark, has proposed the following schedule of points that we believe are indispensable in bringing about an end to terrorism (both terrorism of the state and terrorism of private groups).

• All US military aid to Israel to be stopped.
• US and allied forces to withdraw immediately from Iraq (and any other place which is outside that country's borders) and go home.
• Iraq to be placed in the hands of a pan-Arab peace keeping force until the wishes of the various ethnic groups can be properly determined (as opposed to the wishes of the various warlords), genuine elections are held, and a government (or governments) with popular support are voted in. In the likely event that this does not succeed no other countries are to militarily intervene but are to let the people who live in Iraq determine the outcome of their own fate.
• The US war economy to be wound down and all economic activity to be transferred to peace time purposes.
• All nuclear armaments to be controlled with a view to their eventual abolition.
• The CIA and all national intelligence bodies to be abolished as these pose the gravest threats to world peace. Staff and resources of the National Security State to be transferred to peace time activities (Susan also proposes here that a symbolic effigy of Harry Truman be burnt, to mark the occasion).
• An economic conference be held (involving all countries with an economy) to determine the best and most equitable way to allocate the earth's limited resources without wars, and to make orderly plans for the rapid development of safe and affordable alternatives to fossil fuels. The money to finance research and development to be found from the military budget.
• The perpetrators of terrorist actions against all Western countries, especially Osama bin Laden, when brought to justice to be tried and a thorough and public accounting to be made of how these various acts of terrorism were planned, organised, funded and executed. All other parties shown to be involved in these terrorist acts to also be brought to trial and punished.

Each point in and of itself is a radical proposal. I said to Susan myself: "Not bloody likely, dear" and she nodded her sage head in agreement. Not bloody likely indeed.

Yet, friends, many of us do believe that this is what it will take. Anything less is no end.

 

That all sounds nice in theory, but it would never happen. The government needs a situation that corresponds to their phony terrorism ruse. If the government followed everything you mentioned, there would be no excuse for terrorism, which is exactly what they need.

Understand that the government thrives on terrorism because the government thrives on war. You cannot fight a war unless you have an enemy, real or made up. The government needs terrorism to rally the frightened and manipulated masses around supporting their phony wars.

Again, I don't believe in the terror threat as portrayed by the mainstream news. I believe 90% of all terrorism - especially major events like 9/11 - are government-sponsored and government orchestrated. Sorry, I don't believe even for a second that bin Laden orchestarted 9/11 from his cave, nor caused NORAD to stand-down all the way from Afghanistan.

 

Ta Rat. Do you advise we slit our throats now or wait till later?

 

Are you insinuating we have only two choices: slit our throats or buy into a naive concept?

 

No, stay around a bit longer. Maybe you can make a difference.

 

Obviously not. But that is what it appears you are insinuating by the tone of your response. Please clarify.

 

Well, people need to wake up to the fact that terrorist events like 9/11 are inside jobs. They need to look at the unanswered questions surrounding such events. I agree that there are people in the world who hate the US, England and Israel, and rightfully so. But I don't believe in the "terrorist threat" as it is presented to us. Anything but.

While I agree with the ideology of many of the ideas included in your list, I don't believe those are the true causes of terrorism, which I believe to largely be concocted.

It seems like many people are willing to understand that governments benefit from terrorist events, but they're not willing to question the likelihood that the government is also behind those very attacks from which it benefits.

 

IMO, there is a third choice- not buy into niave concepts and still not be able to do anything about it.

 

I believe there is something that can be done. All the people who are waking up give me hope. Most people are still asleep, of course, but there are many who are becoming aware of what's really happening. This gives me at least some hope.

 

Oh yeah, of course. It's alllll being orchestrated... of course. Here's one for you rat: when did all this start? When did the illuminati *not* control everything?

 

it's a great pity i think that serious discussion has to be sidetracked with this kind of nonsense. u winding him up and him biting the bait every time. if u have anything constructive 2 contribute please do tell us.

 

I have plenty constructive to contribute: all this conspiracy junk is nonsense, and anyone who says different wants his head examined. You guys clearly think that spouting this tripe makes you look cool and special. Well, it does make you look special, but only special as in special needs, you retards.

So seriously. Answer the question: when did the illuminati *start* their huge evil conspiracy? And why?

 

no love, i said 'constructive', as in, u know, something positive 2 say. all u do is name call and throw hissy fits.

 

Hahahah yeah sure. I no U R 2 clever 4 me d00d. :-/

 

http://www.voxfux.com/features/stranger_than_fiction.htm

 

I'd rather see every muslim on Earth dead that not support Israel. If Muslims were capabale of making a true democracy, I'd be all for them doing so, of course they can't so i refuse to them attempt to do so in Iraq.

 

Why do you want to support Israel?
There are a few villians in that government who are using our power and others like the United Nations to establish a world government.

 

That would not work, there are not enough resources to go around.

 

it would work if we switched to a more sustainable source

 

The per capita GDP of the world is only like $8,000.. That's a significant reduction in standard of living for most of the Western world.. There is no way everyone would agree to that.