I work with a liberalist

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Communism, Jul 26, 2005.

  1. Communism

    Communism Member

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    I noticed the other thread regarding a communist. Well, let me tell you my story.


    I work with a liberalist. She hate black people, she isn't much around at work, and she is married to a nazi. Her father is an alcoholic. Her grandfather tried to hit me with his car, when he was visibly drunk.

    Now, instead of accusing every liberalist in the world for being nazi sympathiser and having drunk parents, I realize that people are different, that people have different problems, different needs, and different views. This liberalist does not neccesarily represent the liberalists, and that communist in the previous thread, does not neccesarily represent communists. I personally don't think there is much point in saying "shit, this guy is a socialist/liberal/conservative/fascist/nihilist/communist and he is stupid, and because of that every socialist/liberal/conservative/fascist/nihilist/communist is stupid.


    Just my two cents.
     
  2. KBlaze

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    That's very true, dude.
    Judgmental people are idiots.

    All these terms are bogus.
    Either way, you're still under someone else's control.
    The political/economic spectrum on this planet is a joke.
    And it's supposed to be.
    So that you aren't given the option of true freedom.
     
  3. Communism

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    Thanks. I personally think that it is something we all need to work on not being prejudical. I think we are born in a world where there are a lot of conflict, both internal and external, direct and indirect.. And we have to make sure that we don't pre-judge, or generalize. Because if we do, we might even become lower than those we judge, and those we tend to generalize. So if we could leave single examples like that out the window, then I think we could have much more useful debates...


    I agree, at least to an extent.

    A lot of terms are used random, some are created as "false alternatives", and many people have different descriptions and views on different terms. I don't know what you meant though.

    Why do you think all these terms are bogus?
     
  4. Communism

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    Other common generalizations:

    - Third World people are stupid and lazy, and they smell (in fact, I've met many Third World people who have smelled perfectly normal).
    - All gays do anal sex.
    - Gays are sexually attracted to every guy on the planet.
    - All gays are feminine


    - All communists are evil and lazy and want big government
    - All communists are supportive of the Soviet Union
    - All sports wrestlers are fat
    - All fat people eat a lot
    - All fat people are fat, because they eat unhealthy food
    - All police officers are brutal maniacs
    - All police officers in this world are here to protect us
    - All rightwings support the Iraq war
    - All fascists are nazis
    - (perhaps unconscious thinking) the world is black and white/good and evil

    They are generalizations, but IMO not very useful.
     
  5. KBlaze

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    yeah, generalizations suck.
    (thats a generalization, ha. im suprised nobody caught me saying "judgmental people are idiots" ahahaha that was also a joke.)

    but i think terms like that are bogus because, its giving you a name that represents where you stand on an issue that should never have been an issue,
    like,

    "what kind of government do you want, democratic, or fascist?"
    "well, i am my own government"
    "no no, sonny, that wasnt a choice"
    "exactly. its not a choice because its an undeniable fact. I am my state."
    "uhh...you goddamn hippy liberal!"
     
  6. reginacockburn

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    A gentleman after my own heart. Well said.
     
  7. apollo

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    Liberalist? What's that? A Liberal??
     
  8. Angel_Headed_Hipster

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    he meant liberalist as in Libertarian (I think...) and libertarians are known toh ave more of a conservative view on politics although their name would make you think different...

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  9. Pointbreak

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    Stereotypes, like all Nazis are bad?


    Well, all nazis ARE bad. And so are all communists.

    There is no excuse for supporting murderous, totalitarian ideologies, and there is no excuse for ignorance of the reality of communism.
     
  10. flmkpr

    flmkpr Senior Member

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    communism:a theory or system of the ownership of the means of production by the comunity, with all members sharing in the work and products. whats so bad?
     
  11. *Ewan*

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    It's bad because gilligan says so.
     
  12. KBlaze

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    hey, thanks, reginacockburn


    nice that there's another person fully aware of themselves here

    unlike these goons
     
  13. *Ewan*

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    there is not state dam it. That's socialism, the perios between capitalism and socialsim. And the workers control the state. State control in socialism is not the same as in captitalism.
     
  14. Communism

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    Nothing :)
     
  15. Communism

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    Exactly.

    In the socialist phase, the state will still exist, true, but the state will be controlled by the workers. In capitalist society (like the one we live in), the state is controlled by the bourgois (the capitalist class/"the rich").

    It's a choice between serving the working class, or the capitalist class. Which one do you choose?
     
  16. Communism

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    Then the capitalist class (with members like Bill Gates) must be totally corrupt.

    If you believe in that sentence you just presented, and provided you dissaprove of corruption, you would support people's power. You see?

    Know your enemy. We are not your enemy. And you are not ours.



    Three families – Bill Gates, the Sultan of Brunei and the Walton family – have a combined wealth of some $135 billion. Their value equal the annual income of 600 million people living in the world’s poorest countries.
     
  17. *Ewan*

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    eh, how does it ahve all the money when it's distributed to the people. All the power wouldn't be in the hand of a government as such anyway, because the facotires would be controlled by the workers.
     
  18. Communism

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    I actually meant Liberalist. She is a very big supporter of the largest liberalist party in our country.
     
  19. flmkpr

    flmkpr Senior Member

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    ok let me ask one question! do you as a member of a scocity think that you deserve more because you think that your ideas are more important than the pepole than the people that work to implement your ideas? im not posting this as a troll i genuinly want to know what people think!
     

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