"But I say unto you, Love your Enemies"

"But I say unto you, Love Your Enemies!

Question? Are you a disciple of Yahshua, The Messiah? And no I do not mean
the imagined “god” of “christianity” they call “jesus christ”:-((((((

A disciple is someone who follows the teaching of another! Do you follow the
teachings of another or are you a disciple of your own self? The Messiah,
Yahshua teaches that you should, "Love your enemies, bless them that curse
you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use
you, and persecute you; that you may be the children of your Father WHO
is in heaven;" (Matthew 5:44-45a) Are you a child of “The ONE GOD, Father
of ALL”? Do you desire to follow the teachings of Yahshua The Messiah?
Please continue reading and partake of the "Bread of Life", that is “The Life”!
“The Life” which was manifested in the Teachings of, and Lived by, The Son
of The Living GOD. He Is Yahshua, The Messiah!

Now if you do prefer to use the modern english translation of The Messiah’s
GOD given name that would be “Joshua”, and Joshua The Messiah taught the
following both by word and example:

"You have heard that it has been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a
tooth: But I say unto you, That you resist not evil: but whoever would hit
you on your right cheek, turn your other cheek to him also. And if any man
will sue you at the law, and take away your coat, let him have your cloke
also. And if someone compels you to go a mile, go with him two miles. Give to
him that asks you, and from him that would borrow of you, turn him not away.
You have heard that it has been said, You shall love your neighbour, and hate
your enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse
you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use
you, and persecute you; That you may be the children of your Father which
is in heaven: for HE makes HIS sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and
HE sends rain on the just and on the unjust. For if you love them which love
you, what reward do you have? Do not even sinners love those who love
them? And if you salute your brethren only, what do you do more than
others? Do not even the sinners salute their brethren also? Be perfect, even
as your Father WHO is in heaven is perfect." (Matthew 5:38-48) The Messiah
also testified, "Why do you call Me, Lord(Master), Lord(Master), and yet you
do not that which I say?"(Luke 6:46) and He testified, "If you love Me, keep
My commandments" (John:14:15, also read verses 15-24)

Now, at the end of The Messiahs’ teaching, in what is commonly called "the
sermon on the mount"(Matthew chapters 5,6 and 7), the following words were
spoken by The Messiah, "Not every one that says unto Me, Master, Master,
shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that does the will of My Father
which is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, Master, Master, have we
not prophesied in Thy Name? and in Thy Name have cast out devils? and in
Thy Name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I
never knew you: depart from Me, you that work iniquity. Therefore WHOEVER
HEARS these sayings of Mine, AND DOES them, I will liken him unto A WISE
MAN, which built his house upon a rock: And the rain descended, and the
floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not:
for it was founded upon a rock. And EVERY ONE THAT HEARS these sayings of
Mine, AND DOES THEM NOT, shall be likened unto A FOOLISH MAN, which built
his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and
the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall
of it."(Matthew 7:21-27) "Hears these sayings and does them"!!! May The
Messiahs’ GOD and Father, WHO is His Brethrens’ GOD and Father, help us
that we would hear and do! For except HE gives the grace and strength,
except HE gives of HIS Spirit, none could do! The elect, "cry unto GOD day
and night"!!!(Luke 18:7b) The letters, or ‘epistles’, in what this world and it’s
religions call the ‘bible’, are in perfect harmony with Yahshua’s teaching of
"Love Your Enemies"!

"Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not." (Romans 12:14)
"Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all
men. If it be possible, as much as lies in you, live peaceably with all men.
Dearly beloved, avenge not your selves, but rather give place unto wrath: for
it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, says the LORD GOD. Therefore if
your enemy hungers, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him drink: for in so doing
you shall heap coals of fire on his head. Do not be overcome of evil, but
overcome evil with good." (Romans 12:17-21) "See that none renders evil for
evil unto any man; but always follow that which is good, both among
yourselves, and to all men." (I Thessalonians 5:15) "Not rendering evil for evil,
or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that is your calling,
that you should inherit a blessing. For he that will love life, and see good
days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no
guile: Let him eschew evil and do good; let him seek peace, and ensue it. For
the eyes of the LORD are over the righteous, and HIS ears are open unto
their prayers: but the face of the LORD is against them that do evil. And who
is he that will harm you, if you be followers of that which is good? But and if
you suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are you: and be not afraid of their
terror, neither be troubled; But sanctify the LORD GOD in your hearts: and be
ready always to give an answer to every man that asks you a reason of the
hope that is in you with meekness and fear: Having a good conscience; that,
when they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that
falsely accuse your good conversation in The Messiah." (I Peter 3:9-13) "For
we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against
powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual
wickedness in high places." (Ephesians 6:12) "For though we walk in the flesh,
we do not war after the flesh: (For the weapons of our warfare are not
carnal, but mighty through GOD to the pulling down of strong holds) Casting
down imaginations, and every high thing that exalts itself against the
knowledge of GOD, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience
of The Messiah;" (II Corinthians10:3-5) "Therefore endure hardness, as a
good soldier of Yahshua, The Messiah. No man that wars entangles himself
with the affairs of this life; that he may please HIM who has chosen him to
be a soldier." (II Tim 2:3-4) "I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the
mercies of GOD, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy,
acceptable unto GOD, which is your reasonable service. And be not
conformed to this world: but be transformed by the renewing of your mind,
that you may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, Will of
GOD." (Romans 12:1-2) Renewed! Transformed! Thankfully!

Many desire and expect ease in this temporal life, but tribulation awaits those
that follow the teachings of The Messiah while in this evil world! Yet, what a
blessed end!! "Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake:
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you, when men shall revile
you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely,
for My sake. Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in
heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you."
(Matthew 5:10-12) "Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them
to continue in the faith, knowing that after much tribulation we will enter into
the kingdom of GOD." (Acts 14:22) "These things I have spoken unto you,
that in me you might have peace. In the world you shall have tribulation: but
be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." (John 12:33) "For unto you it
is given in the behalf of The Messiah, not only to believe on Him, but also to
suffer for His sake; Having the same conflict which you saw in me, and now
hear to be in me." (Philippians 1:29-30) "Forasmuch then as The Messiah has
suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for
he that has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin; That he no longer
should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the Will
of GOD." (I Peter 4:1-2)

Whom do you follow? Have you chosen to serve GOD and follow HIS Only
Begotten Son, The Messiah? Only if one abides in that Spirit that was in
The Messiah is it possible to "Love Your Enemies"!

Whom do you serve? "No man can serve two masters!" (Matthew 6:24a)
Choose to follow The Messiah! Chose to be a disciple of The Messiah, and call
upon GOD day and night for the strength needed to "Love Your Enemies" so
that you might "enter in at the strait gate": "for wide is the gate, and broad is
the way, that leads to destruction, and many there be which follow that
worldly way: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leads
unto Life, and few there be that find it." (Matthew 7:13-14) Be one of the
few! Be not of those “The Creator will destroy because they are destroying
HIS Creation”;-((((((

"And I say unto you which hear, Love Your Enemies!!! (Luke 6:27a)

Are you listening? Do you hear? The Messiah speaks, "...whoever hears these
sayings of Mine, and does them, him I will liken unto a wise man, which built
his house upon a rock:" (Matthew 7:24) "And why do you call Me, Maste
(Lord), Master(Lord), and do not the things which I say?"(Luke 6:46) "For
whoever shall do the Will of My Father which is in heaven, the same is My
brother, and sister, and mother." (Matthew 13:50) The Only True GOD’s Will
was revealed in the teachings of HIS Son The Messiah, and HIS Son The
Messiah teaches that His Brethren should "Love Their Enemies"!!! Have you
chosen to follow “The Way to The Truth of The Life”? or have you chosen to
follow the way to the lie of the death?

The above teachings of The Messiah, are joyfully received by all His Brethren,
for their “affections are set upon heavenly things” and they have “no
continuing city” in this wicked, evil world. Yet those whose “god is their
bellies, and who mind earthly things” and those who “love this world and their
own lives in it” are those who spiritually fornicate with “the god of this world”
and are held captive by his religious systems.

Such systems of religion do not abide in “The Prince of Peace" and are
grounded in “the doctrines and commandments of men and "d"evil";-((((((

May there be those who would heed The Call of The ONLY TRUE GOD to
“Come out of her, MY people…….” May their be those who "come out" of
the seductive religious systems that are of this evil world, systems that
are of “the god of this world”, he who is "the father of lies”, "d"evil.

Those who believe in and fear death, will cause and serve death, for they
know not “The Prince of Peace"....... May there be those who experience
“The Way to The Truth of The Life" for they will "Love Their Enemies".......

judaism? islam? and that which calls herself ‘christianity'? she
who created an imagined ‘god’ and named it ‘jesus’;-((((((

Religions that are of this world, and all alike they are,
They have fought, killed and died near and far;

Then once a week, or multiple times a day they pray,
And as hypocrites begin each new day;

A day filled with deceit and lies,
For in their religious systems Truth can not abide;

And so the fruit of death is born of their religious way,
Because life is but a pawn in the wicked game they play;-((((((

So choose: The Life or death? Truth or lies? Good or evil? To Love
or to hate? That which is Heavenly or that which is earthly? Those
who follow The Messiah will “set their affections upon heavenly
things”, they will quit serving “time” in the prison that is this
wicked world and they will “Love Their Enemies”.

And as they suffer, while in this temporal wicked world, they will have,

Peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

I didn't read all that, but all I can say is:

I remember you!!!! I was on several years ago and you were always on and on about Yeshua. So what's your deal? Can you sum up your theology into a paragraph, cause I can't read all that. I'm too lazy

 

laziness begets ignorance:-(

and as stated in one person's signature, "if ignorance is bliss why isn't everyone smilin"?

no theo'ry'logy, just The Teachings and The Life example of The Messiah.......

very few desire, and fewer yet have experienced, "the simplicity that is in The Messiah"":-(

simply, The Messiah desired above all else:

"Father, not My will, But THY Will Be Done"!

such a desire is "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

so simple a Child will understand;-) a Child of The ONLY TRUE GOD that is.......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

Just wondering where you were and now you're back.

 

Kharakov: Me or him being back?

Francisco...listen: Don't call me ignorant. Also don't throw platitudes at me that have the word beget in them.

I think I get it: simplicity in the Messiah. Are you one of the chosen few who has experienced it?

 

Saint Francisco...

Lol... I hope you get the rebelious women speach now.

Uhoh, someone's asking for the speach about "the way, the truth, and the life"....

 

::laughs:: I love you Kharakov! hehehe

 

Here comes the speech about loving ytour enemies....

Love you too

 

you stated, "guess i'm lazy" and truth is "laziness begets ingnorance".
never said you were lazy or ignorant.......

"why is my liberty judged of another's conscience";-?

i also have such a "lazy" trait and i am a bit enviouis of those who "go.go.go".
yet such envy hinders rather than helps my own lazy trait.......

i do believe my "laziness" is regarding that which is of the natural, those
mundane tasks that seem needful yet are not required of those children
who are seeking to please their Father and HIM alone.

i do love to "live in the woods", "cut wood and carry water", hike, bike.......
rather a "lazy" life, yet oh the blessings that simplicity provides.

nomadic i am, and still hopin that nomadic tribe of The Messiah will once
again be realized midst these temporal shadows of earthly existance.

there are those "certain" places in unspoiled Creation where a certain
"laziness" helps you partake of and absorb the magnificence of wilderness
wonderland experiences.

such experiences give you that which is needful to continue on the onward
and upward journey. experiences kinda liken unto spiritual osmosis. and it's
not the mountain nor the canyon that feeds your spirit; not the sea, not the
tree, nor the flower; not that which is beyond explanation, not the fire in the
sky, nor that unbelievable creature; not the full moon, not sunshine on a
cloudy day, nor the rainbow; it is not that which is of Creation that feeds us
spiritually, It Is The Creator, HE WHO is The Great Spirit, HE supplies all the
needs of HIS Children!

such is simplicity!

"chosen few"? indeed simplicity is a gift and needs be received.......

why so few who desire to receive? The Answer has been given yet the
multitudes receive it not because they are yet held captive by "the lust of
their eyes, the lust of their flesh, and the pride of their own life":-((((((

simply they "love their own life in this world";-((((((

simplicity testifies, that Life is not of the flesh, but is of The Spirit.
simplicity testifies, there is no Life in taking the life of another.
simplicity testifies, The Life is the only Real Life, and Real is Forever!

until simplicity is received, well it seems to me The Giver remains unknown,
just an imagined name or word spoken from a heart that is gounded to this
earth and held captive by the "beggarly elements of this wicked world".

yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope that there would be those who would desire to receive and embrace
simplicity, and not just that simplistic temporal "place" in Creation's Genius,
a Genius that reveals The Creator, but hope is that there would be those
who would desire their rightful "place" in The Creator's Family!

as The Messiah did, so also will such Children desire above all else:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

simply, such a desire is "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

so simple that a Child understands;-))))))

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

Francisco- I want to sit around and drink beer with you sometime...

 

why?

 

oh, me too! We'll talk and then by the end of the night we'll be playing pool and shuffleboard, and embracing strangers and telling stories. peace on earth, at least in our bar

 

My friend:

While I would agree that many Christians don't have an understanding of even the very elementary concepts of Yeshua's teachings, I would dare say that as long as men (meaning mankind) walk the earth, no one will have a complete and accurate understanding of what He intended Christianity to be.

Indeed, we are all hypocrites, from one to the next, all throughout mankind. But it offers nothing constructive to condemn all who are so unfortunate that they don't have a firm grasp of the basics. We should pray together that G-d grants them sight in place of their blindness.

Jesus the Christ is a translation of Yeshua the Messiah. It's merely the Greek translation of the name. Joshua is the English translation of the name. But it matters not, because Shakesphere said it best: A rose by any other name would smell as sweet. In this case, we're talking about the Rose of Sharon.

Is it life that is the pawn, or are we the pawns of Satan's deception? It's foolish to believe that we are never to fight for what is just. Christ told those who do not own a sword to trade their cloak for one (Luke 22:36)... Not to use in an aggressive fashion, of course. Because He also said that those who live by the sword, die by the sword (Matthew 26:52).

I wish it were that simple, Francisco. Accepting Christ and being saved doesn't mean that we will never foul up or never hold things to be true which aren't. We are saved by His Grace alone. The only thing we can choose is to believe in His Promise, and pray for His Will in our lives. Everything else comes with time....

Love always,
Julie

 

Because you are an interesting creature.

 

no beer for me, a little wine now and then, yes.......

the "high" i desire? above all "outta this world"!

and then to hear the words, "welcome home", forever!

interesting? except for temporal life seems we have nothing in common.

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

the lie that is "christianity" was never "intended".

"christianity" is but one of the many imagined religious systems devised by
"the god of this world", "the father of lies". religious systems that deceive
the hearts of the simple and lift up the hearts of those who believe they
are "wise"(aka:the pharisee's)

and "christianity" but fulfills the legacy of the pharisee's.......period.......

and they yet seek to crucify The Truth:-((((((

condemnation is for the religious systems and not the individual.

yet if the individual conscience experiences condemnation it is because of
the lies that are the "strong delusion" of the religious system that holds
them captive:-((((((

"jesus chirst" is the name that "catholicism" and her pagan harlot "christian"
daughters gave to the image of one head of their three headed pagan "god".

and no apostle, no believer, no one ever spoke that name until some 500
years ago.......period.......

as to those souls held captive by the religious systems of this wicked world?
in such religious systems The Truth does not matter, so why would a name
"matter"?

you are a sick, very sick worldly woman:;-((((((

may there be those who live by faith, and not by fear as you do.......

The Messiah prayed for HIS Father's Will, yet deceived, deluded "christianity"
prays to the image of an imagined "god".

and because of such perverse, hypocrital "christian" religious systems,
"The Way of Truth is evil spoken of":-((((((

thing is the "mother of harlots" "catholicism" will soon be declared the
"righteous religion" when compared to her "christian" daughters:-((((((

yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

hope there would be those who would "see" and take heed
unto The Call of The Only True GOD to:

"Come out of her, MY people......."

hope there would be those who "come out" of this wicked,
evil world(babylon) and it's systems of religion, many of which
call themselves "christianity"!

those who "come out" will "set their affections on things above",
and as The Messiah did, so also will they desire above all else:

"Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"!

simply, such a desire is "The Way to The Truth of The Life".......

true Spiritual Children clearly "see", "Father knows best".......period.......

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francisco

 

I think I will have a glass tonight.

That would make hanging out interesting, would it not?

That's a nice sentiment, but don't you feel home already?

 

I dont know if this has already been addressed in this thread or if it is the main point of this thread, but why are we to reject Satan instead of loving and embracing him as our enemy?

 

naught but a stranger and pilgrim, and thankfully so!

no common union is not interesting, but sad for you;-((((((

journeyed well over one million miles in this temporal life,
and thankful for each and every experience.......

and you khar?

grounded to this earth? physically? and spiritually?

peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis

 

I never claimed the religion itself wasn't intended, Francisco. I said that what it has become wasn't intended. Christ came to do away with the Old Religion and the Old Covenant (the Old Testament), and bring in the New.

I also never claimed that the religious systems are perfect, which is why people need a personal relationship with Christ, who is perfect. But we also aren't supposed to forsake the rest of our brothers and sisters in the Body of Christ, because relying on our knowledge alone will not sustain us. To do otherwise is claim ourselves to be the wisest of all, as a Pharisee does.

How is the world supposed to receive the Good News, if not through ministry, then?

That isn't what John 16 claims about the condemnation (or conviction) of the Holy Spirit. 6Because I have said these things, you are filled with grief. 7But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. 8When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt[a] in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment.

So you believe that any guilt we feel for our actions is based on our connection to the religious system, rather than our Father gently chastising us for our transgressions?

Francisco, please don't forget that most of the original books of the New Testament are in Greek, where "Jesus the Christ" are the Greek words for "Yeshua the Messiah". Unless we're showing prejudice against the Greeks, and a hate of their spoken tongue?

Peter, Paul, and all of the disciples that contributed to the New Testament wrote in Greek. There simply isn't any evidence that it was first written in Hebrew or Aramaic. Even the earliest found fragments of the NT are in Greek.

http://www.apuritansmind.com/Apologetics/McMahonNTWrittenGreek.htm

Francisco, a couple of the things you've claimed in this post are not true. I know that you didn't mean to... You were just misinformed. But in light of that, people are the ones who run the religious systems... People who make mistakes just like you and me. But nonetheless, they are G-d's people and He works through them regardless. Think of the Christian Children's Ministry and wonderful contributions like it that wouldn't be possible without these religious systems you hate so very much.

As for me, I will wait on the judgement of the L-rd. You aren't even judging me by my fruit, at this point. I will fight for what is right and just. I merely quoted the words of Yeshua the Messiah, whom we both seem to love and honor... Why do you pass judgement on me for relaying His teachings?

What image is this? Last I checked, the most Christian churches weren't into idolatry. We are also told to pray for the Father's will in the NT, but just because some people don't recognize this doesn't mean that the entire religious system is false. The Doctrine is built upon the Gospel, the very Gospel you were quoting from in your frst post.

No, it's because people who call themselves Christians wish to receive the Promise without doing His Work. Faith without works is dead (James 2:17).

Based on what evidence?

Indeed, there is yet hope for all reading this.

If you are condemning being religious instead of being spiritual, I can agree with that. However, it seems that you've been attacking the institutions created for the purpose of carrying out His Work. I can't agree with the condemnation of good (but admittedly flawed) people who try to live in accordance with His will.

Even as you claim the Father knows best, you've still condemned the authorities He has allowed over us (His Church institutions are included in what we are told in Romans 13), implying that you feel that you know better than He what this world needs. I would encourage you brush up on some apologetics and what it truly means to submit to His Will, even if we can't agree with it or see the purpose.

Love always,
Julie