GWB shot kennedy!

I'd say it sounds like it has just as much opinion as every other news report I've heard in my life; maybe you notice it more here because this isnt what's constantly heard in the "mainstream"

 

I'm really worried about you guys not being able to differentiate Zionists and Jews.
Not every German is a Nazi.
Not every Jew is a Zionist.
Not every American is a democrat.
Not every African is a Black Panther.

 

Like I said, you have been fooled.

Anti-zionism doesn't HAVE to mean anti-semitism. But that doesn't mean anti-zionism CAN'T mean anti-semitism. It is obviously a very good camouflague, since you just replace the word jew with zionist. Maybe you never noticed but there are plenty of anti-semites around who use anti-zioinism as a cover.

Re-read the article. Who caused WWI? Jews. Who caused WWII? Jews. Who controls the media? Jews. Who controls international banking? Jews. Who's behind terrorist attacks? Jews. But somehow it never occurred to you that there might be some anti-semitism in there?

For freak's sake the article actually quotes - completely seriously - Adolf Hitler's "final words" blaming the jews for WWII! Quoting Adolf Hitler blaming jews... hmmm... still not suspicious?

Like I said before. Show your jewish friends this article, or better yet PLEASE show it to their parents. Ask them what they think. I don't think you will, because although you won't admit it I think you know this is blatant jew hating conspiracy theory nonsense.

 

Hahaha, coincidentaly, I don't have too many Jewish friends, I only have 5 or 6 real friends to begin with, but I work with a few people of that decent and maybe I will ask her what Zionism means to her.
It just doesn't sound like a "blatant jew hating conspiracy" the way its written at least.
And let me ask you one thing, what do you think happened on 9/11? Yes it is relevant.
About the quote from Hitler, no, I'm not sticking up for Hitler, but he did mention Zionism by international jewry, see he took it out of proportion and turned every jew into a zionist. And you might want to read what the enemy wrote to get a better understanding of them. Oh but that doesn't matter since Hitler was a psychopath everything he says is null and void we don't need to pay attention to the why, we just need to know he was a lunatic. No further questions.
You re-read the article. Who caused everything?
ZIONISTS. NOT JEWS. Though a lot of times they use the word Jew but it is to describe the people who are the Zionists, not Jews all together. It never occured to you that they're not all the same group? The way you keep writing about the blame being place on Jews is if I said every Arab on Earth is responsable for 9/11. It's way out of proportion.
Let's pretend that I actually did hate somebody because they were Zionist and hope for Jewish supremecy. Does that make me hate all Jews?
No. It makes me hate that one zionist.
Alright. I don't really want this to turn into anything too bad but whatever.
Peace to all of you.

 

The dude who wrote it made it clear he wasn't against Jews.

"In a more general sense, the term "Zionist" is also used to describe a certain element within the jewish community (not all of them!), who believe in Jewish Supremacy, thus putting their own interests ahead of those of any nation in which they reside. It is a mistake to assume that all jews are supporters of the “Zionist Mafia” or Jewish Supremacy. In fact, some of the strongest condemnations of Zionism and Jewish Supremacy comes from jews themselves! "

Another example:
Are you against the Mafia? The people who deal drugs in big cities and murder and the Godfather and all that stuff that's cool in movies but not in real life? "Are you against the Mafia?"
"...yeah"
"You are!!?? You must be anti-Italian!"
"Well, no, I just don't like crooks fucking up my neighborhood."
"NO! YOU'RE ANTI-ITALAIN!!! ANTI-ITALIANNNNN!!!!!"

thats sort of what this sounds like

i still dont see any straight anti-semetism

 

http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/differencejudzion.html

do you think the people who wrote this are anti-semetic?

 

It's Anti-Zionism, not Anti-Semitism. Look up the definitions instead of just parroting the media, who use Anti-Semitic against Anti-Zionists all the time.

 

Thanks.

 

kblaze dont ask her what it means show her the article let her read it and Im sure she will tell you how she feels .

 

Exactly, because, due to powerful forces in the media, the Anti-Defemation League is one, people who speak like this are branded anti-semites, and everyone is told so, therefore, any talk of this kind will evoke an emotional response that they are feeling attacked because they associate it with anti-semetism

 

kblaze this has nothing to do with the media or the 9/11 attacks are you blind.But let me ask you a question do you believe in the white supremacy?

 

kblaze and for anybody else that thaught i was lieing what i was telling them about this conspiracy theory here you go.

Zionist Occupation Government
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Zionist Occupation (also Occupied, Occupational) Government, or ZOG, is a term used to refer to the belief that the United States government is controlled by "Zionists".

In the context of a ZOG, the word Zionist may have several meanings. In many cases it is simply a sweeping euphemism for "Jew," meant to portray all Jews in a negative light as conniving and conspiratorial. In other cases it refers to a Jew who is thought to value the goals of Israel over the goals of the United States -- and more specifically who tries to leverage U.S. power inappropriately to further the goals of Israel or of Jews, as by utilizing U.S. military or economic power. For others the term Zionist is used more traditionally to mean anyone (in some cases even a non-Jew) who supports the idea of a Jewish state.

When used in reference to a ZOG, the term Zionist is often vague, derogatory, and meant to allude to a supposed international Jewish conspiracy (see The Protocols of the Elders of Zion).




Contents [hide]
1 History
2 See also
3 External links
3.1 Websites claiming there is a ZOG
3.2 Websites discussing "ZOG" as a form of anti-Semitism



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History
The term is believed to derive from the text "Welcome to ZOG-World", written by the American neo-Nazi Eric Thomson in 1976. It appears to have first been brought to widespread attention in a December 27, 1984 article in the New York Times about robberies committed in California and Washington state by a white supremacist group, The Order. According to the newspaper, the crimes "were conducted to raise money for a war upon the United States Government, which the group calls "ZOG," or Zionist Occupation Government."

The OSB was an offshoot of the Aryan Nations, a group founded in the early 1970s by Richard G. Butler, who had been associated since the 1950s with another anti-Semitic group, the Church of Jesus Christ Christian. These groups trace their origins back to anti-Semitic activists such as Gerald L. K. Smith, and had some relations with the Ku Klux Klan. It seems likely that the term "Zionist Occupation Government" originated with the Aryan Nations. It was publicised extensively in its literature and the group moved into online communications at a very early stage: in December 1984, Newsweek magazine reported that the Aryan Nations had set up a bulletin board called "Aryan Nation Liberty Net" that offered information like the locations of Communist Party offices and "ZOG informers."

In 1996, Aryan Nations posted to its website an "Aryan Declaration of Independence," which declared, "the history of the present Zionist Occupied Government of the United States of America is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations... [all] having a direct object -the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states." Holding "the eradication of the White race and its culture" as "one of its foremost purposes," this "ZOG" is accused of relinquishing the "powers of government to private corporations, White traitors and ruling class Jewish families."

Since 1996 the expression has been picked up and used by various other anti-Semitic groups. A search with Google reveals 882 hits for "Zionist Occupied Government," and over 6,500 hits for articles containing both the words "ZOG" and "Zionist."

This word has also come to be used satirically (See Creedish Occupied Government!, a website alleging the government is controlled by the Amish). The term has been adapted to other political contexts. Those on the political left have referred to the "Korporate Occupied Government." (See The Grassy Knoll.) In India there are references to the "Brahmin Occupied Government."

 

Skip Im urgeing you to remove any link and band any member for spreading this crap.They are influenceing the youngsters of this forum not to mention there groups are illegal in many diffrent countries and reasponsible for many hate crimes in the US.I found it weird when I asked kblaze about the white supremacy group and he got right off the forum.NOTE: where is kblaze from California

 

well guess what your busted

 

Wait, what has nothing to do with 9/11?

I believe white supremacy exists, and hell no I don't agree with it as totally evident in other posts of mine.

You know I love debating about things, especially suppositions that I cannot prove or disprove like this,
but you asking the moderator to take down the link and remove posts is crossing a line.

 

asked kblaze about the supremecy group and he got right off the forum???
i didnt even read the freaking post yet.

i wasnt gonna say this in what i just posted but god, that post of you asking for me to be, not only have threads removed, but banned??

Oh, I'm from Cali, I guess I must be a white supremecist.

Go read my other posts, douche, you'll see I love and respect all peoples.
Even your ass.

But, as it seems here, you've officially crossed the line into denail.

and those wikepedia defenitions, none of them defind it exactly as I would, they all were half right but then with a little spin like, "even a non-jew who supports jewish state". That's the closest but I would define it, "Anyone who supports a world government that is willing to conduct terrorist acts to make it happen" or something, wow I'm flabbergasted, you want me banned haha.
I don't use the term zog, i dont think the entire government is occupied, i just think thats a direction a few folk would like to take us, and those folks have great power like paul wolfowitz, a pentagon official and head of the world bank.

ps thanks blackie

just because the aryan nations know about it doesnt completely debunk it, theyre one of many groups who are aware of it but nobody listens to them cuz theyre stupid-ass nazis for god's sake. of course they're wrong no matter what they're fighting.

 

jamie you sound liek the ADL yourself.
i say that thing and you want me banned?
what a nazi.

edit four hours later...just kidding bout that nazi remark.

 

educating people is the way to world peace...

you insinuate I am a white supremecist because I am from California...

who educated you?

 

I,m not worried about that.But I got you to read your history

 

KBlaze, you are just repeating the standard excuses. Don't be so easily led.

Do you expect people to come out and admit that they are anti-semitic? Do you think maybe they have been fooled just like you have been fooled? Haven't you ever heard the "I'm not a racist, but..." line?

That's the standard response. But who said anti-zionism is anti-semetic? I'm saying it CAN be anti-semitic, but you obviously aren't being very wary. That's why these anti-semites always parade around anti-zionist jews and say "LOOK! Jews are against zionism too! So it can't be anti-semetic." Well go speak to jews against zionism and ask them if they believe "zionists" were behind the holocaust.

Again, you are being evasive. Nobody is asking what the definition of Zionism is, stop pretending that's the issue. What I said was show a jewish friend, or better yet their parents, this article of yours and ask them what they think.

I never said that. For example, I'm not against vegetarianism because Hitler was a vegetarian. But - call me crazy - jews is one subject that I would not value Hitler's opinion on. You say know your enemy, well your enemy Adolf Hitler seems to have the same views on jews that your "anti-zionist" freinds do. Apparently this is not enough of a CLUE that maybe you're friends aren't what they pretend to be. Or maybe the concentration camps only had "zionists" in them? Who knows where this logic could lead, it is well and truly insane.