"But I say unto you, Love your Enemies"

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by Francisco, Jul 27, 2005.

  1. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    yes, all humans have lied and believed a lie at times,
    yet there are those humans who are "liars", that is
    there are those who lie purposely and enjoy it;-((((((

    such is you khar;-((((((

    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope that you would quit serving "the father of lies".......

    Miracles do happen!

    HalleluYah!

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  2. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    You have to love me. Like it or not. ;)
     
  3. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    "love your enemies"....... what is such love?

    The Messiah when confronted by the pharisee's called them a
    "generation of vipers", "whited tombs full of dead men's bones",
    told them their father was "the father of lies",,,etc,,, and yes,
    thru it all The Messiah loved them!

    finally the pharisee's had Him crucified, and He loved them.......

    "Father, forgive them for they know what they do";-(((((((

    yes The Messiah "talked the talk and walked the walk" yet
    it remains as it was, the religious of this day yet seek to
    crucify The Truth:-((((((

    Thank GOD, for HE will always resurrect The Truth so that
    HIS Love might be manifest for all to "see"; inwardly; thankfully.

    while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope that many would experience such Love.......

    Miracles do happen!

    HalleluYah!

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  4. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    and you. Don't forget you. You are one of the biggest liars I've meet. I mean, all the fake negativity... come on... you might confuse some kids.
    Umm, yeah, me too. Umm... and like, maybe you could quit serving him too. That might be a nice swerve off the old San "We are surrounded by evil" Francisco personality you got going. I mean, you are entertaining, but you are certainly type casting yourself as a hopelessly negative wretch. Of course, you can always use your other alias...
    whoa... dude, one just happened... there it goes again.. what the hell? Miracles are stuck in my hair man!!!
     
  5. Francisco

    Francisco Member

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    sad for you khar:-((((((

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  6. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    I can't take anything you say seriously. There is more to life than humor. Although, I do have to admit, one dimensional characters, such as yourself, are sorta humorous.

    Like, if you actually believe the stuff you write, it wouldn't be funny. It would be sorta depressing, I wouldn't want you to be in pain. Well, physical pain... not spiritual though.

    I have this friend who is as negative as you. Complains about absolutely everything. I mean, talk about an accuser or slanderer of creation! This guy is much better at it than you, but he doesn't have your pure negativity. I say he's better, because he doesn't stick to the same few catch phrases. He attacks things from multiple angles, gives multiple vulnerabilities for me to attack. Comparing you 2, I would say you are an Atari game (Pong) and he is an xbox game (maybe morrowind or something).

    Your whole repetitive catch phrase thing makes you easy to talk to. I can just say something and it will cause you to spout out one of your standard phrases, to which there is always a response. I mean, you leave the whole conversation wide open. Of course, you do this by not truly responding to what others say, but that's all right, you don't have to.

    It is interesting though, the varieties of response levels that people have. Like your standard phrases really indicate something about you.

    Here are 2 phrases...
    "The individual member of the social community often receives his information via visual, symbolic channels. "

    "People read. "
     
  7. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    My Friends,

    I am not very well read and I often have difficulty utilizing words. I largely live in a world with my awareness of what I will call the "langauge of feelings"; and have, out of what I have viewed as simply my predilection, spent much of my life consciously contemplating the nature of consciousness, the nature of the universe and natural phenomena in general. Many of the avenues in my evolving mosaic of thought have fused into single roads and as such I feel that I tend toward consciously seeing more interconnectedness within the world.

    I seek to heed the high calling of my soul in all my travels, in all my experience, and this can often be difficult; sometimes it is easy. Referring to all of us in this thread, I believe that if any of us saw another injured or in immediate need of help, no matter their beliefs, errors or transgressions, that we would make an effort to help. In the spirit of "no matter the situation, do what is good and correct", I believe that we should be respectful of, and be open to learning, new lessons; as we are all formed so as to have lessons poised for us whether we are aware of this or not.

    I have found that sometimes I feel that I have particular knowledge, a particular awareness, and that it is correct but then find that it is not correct; not correct in the sense that I have something to learn in connection with it, and, for me this means that any belief in knowing is also good because it serves as a step in the path of learning.

    I know the feeling of pain in my yearning to know; and in wanting some of the knowledge that I have to be everlasting and the final answer to "my question". This is not to suggest that we do not aquire knowledge that is immutable but, instead, that the nature of life is that we must remain open in order to allow what we "know" to be constantly tested; and as spiritual maturity increases this process, that involves humility, becomes natural and automatic. Being closed, however, implies a lesson specific to being closed and this is good because we are being tapped on the shoulder by the 'Father'.


    Peace and Blessings,

    David
     
  8. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Love what you wrote, touched my soul in ways that you are not aware of (simply because I am not explaining them to you). I have one question for you.

    What is the question?
     
  9. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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  10. Francisco

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    "wanting to know", yes, quite a bit different than "believing", however,
    beliefs that are grounded in experience(miraculously) can not be shaken
    and need not be "tested".

    as The Messiah testified, "you are not to test(tempt, try, prove, doubt,
    question) The LORD THY GOD". why do we question;-((((((

    "humility", yes, that is humility....... Who do you serve?

    a question we all need to answer with every given breath.......

    "poor and needy" we are, yet who "knows"?

    Children "know"! they "know", they trust that their Father will supply
    that which they "need".......

    and while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope that there would be those who would "see" how "poor and needy"
    they are, and become as little Children, trusting their Father, believing
    HE is The ONE who gave them Life and HE is The ONE who will sustain
    The Life HE has given.......Forever!

    HalleluYah!

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  11. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    Francisco,


    Thank You for your heart-felt response. I believe that, in reality, I can only serve God; this is the nature of life; to deny this would be foolish. I believe everything is formed by God and that testing, forming, is automatic and given; "grounded" beliefs, are stable by their very nature and inherent within these beliefs is humility, an openess to truth. All is from grace; humility, bringing faith, comes from incessant acknowledgement of the truth. "No power is given lest it be given from above".


    Peace and Blessings,

    David
     
  12. Francisco

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    "reality" is that which is Forever, and to be a servant of The ONLY TRUE GOD
    is the only "reality"....... yet there are so many unreal;-((((((

    unbenounced to them they are but creators of their own selfcentered
    "shadow of life";-(((((( they are the "braindirtyed" masses of mankind
    running hell-bent down "the broadway to destruction" as they follow
    the symbolic "cross" of constantine;-((((((

    "No power is given lest it be given from above".

    "d"evil, "the god of this world", "the father of lies", he has power over
    those who serve him as they serve themselves.......

    indeed such is allowed, for in the school of "The Life" it needs be.......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  13. HippieLngstckng

    HippieLngstckng Bringer of DOOM!!!

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    Wise, as always... Of course, I know that you're right. Normally, I do try to respond lightly, but I never dreamed someone writing a post entitled "love your enemies" would attack me so viciously for trying to help them with their facts. I showed my weakness in getting upset... I'm sensitive, ya know. These feelings get hurt easily. ;)

    LMAO!!! :D

    Is it getting warm in here, or is it just me?
    *fans herself and opens a window*
     
  14. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Perhaps it is time for you to ask God for the power to speak the truth.
     
  15. Francisco

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    sad for you khar;-((((((

    want nothing to do with the "god" you serve.......

    "truth" is that you serve your own self and in doing so
    you render service unto "god of this world", he who is
    "the father of lies".......period.......

    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    Miracles do happen!

    HalleluYah!

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  16. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Ahh Francisco. You are but a little part of God's creation and cannot avoid having something to do with God.
    By doing so I serve all of creation. This is the way of things. I do as God intends me to do, whether or not it is apparent to those who do not know God.
     
  17. Francisco

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    yep, just like "d"evil, "the father of lies", oh yeah, The ONLY TRUE GOD
    HE allows you do your "own thing".......and that's exactly what you do.......

    so sad for you:-((((((

    yet while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    peace, even as war(spritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  18. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Yeah. I got it pretty rough. sigh.. sad for me...
    So sad for me...
    So sad!!
    Sad for me..
    Take it Francisco....
     
  19. Francisco

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    you have chosen "it", and you can have "it", all of "it".......

    sad for you khar;-((((((

    yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope!

    hope that you can get rid of "it".......

    peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
     
  20. natural23

    natural23 Senior Member

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    She writhed in pain
    as her soul twisted
    reaching for the sky.

    And they laughed,
    and they laughed,
    and they laughed.

    So programmed,
    not seeing the lesson
    laying in wait,
    they did not feel.

    Sincerity profound,
    pray she did.
    Faith in the real
    behind the name
    she has.

    How could such
    pure and self assured
    violence exist ?
    Something let go
    and she saw,
    she became.
    And wth humility she
    is blessed
    and survives dancing
    with angels burnt
    on the cross.



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