Don't hit women, but...

RE: Ranger, thank you my darlin' for standing up. You've always been one of the best dudes I know. To know something inside out you would have to live it.
Am I such a threat to the male ego that I must be shut up with the threat of banishment. Be labeled as a Man Hater and be silenced, does this sound familier

Actually it does. At risk of getting banned myself, you got IronGoth banned, didn't you?

 

What !! now I got goth banned.. I don't think so, goth has been banned a long time. I had nothing to do with it. I belive this is the first time goth and me have faced off. I never said or even implied that goth should be banned... What made you think I got goth banned.. I did not bad rep him or anyone here, I have not complained to anyone, I can stand up for myself and hold my own. I say what I feel and know to be truth.. what ever you want to think

PS. for the COWARD that left me the bad rep. and told me to shut up, Bite Me.!!

 

Who do you feel was attacked?

As to this being a 'Men's Issues" forum I consider our sister's views of men a men's issue of vast importance. If the image/rep of men in general is being damaged by the actions of some of our brothers it's high time we deal with it. I'm well aware that some women can be aggressors/initiators in violence and that's how the thread started out, but bro it is indeed a two sided coin.

I for one appreciate a woman who has the guts to say no or speak up and tell when I'm fucking up. The most deadly friend man or woman you can have around you is a yes person. I would take a woman like Shameless_heifer at my side or covering my back anyday over a brother without the guts to say no.

Walk in Balance & Peace Bro...

 

I think I will bow out for now, I didn't come here to fight or make enemies, I don't want to put anyone on the spot.
I was speaking out for abuse it got off subject, which was 'why the double standard'. I was bringing balance to the subject by illistrating the abuse of women and how tolerated it is. As I said before I mean no harm to anyone.
PEACE..
SH

 

I agree with you. If a woman hits a man, she is provoking him to hit her back.

I'm glad you could all be friendly again.

 

K, 2 things:

1. Learn grammer and use paragraphs. Very hard to read.
2. He was talking about the movie "Enough" with Jennifer Lopez, not "Double Jepordy"

 

Yes, I just remembered that today. I made a thread about it (before I read this).

 

I have been to the Mod Forum. I can assure you all, Heifer did NOT "get IronGoth banned." (nor did she "get" Shaitan banned, as he was the same person as IronGoth and many others.) He got himself banned, as usual. It had nothing to do with this thread. He was a long time ban evader and has had at least 9 identities (all banned) on this forum. It had NOTHING to do with this out of control thread. End of story. Quite a few Mods have banned this dude who keeps evading bans.

Even more serious action will be taken if he evades yet an other ban. That's all I have to say about this.

 

? why? I don't get it, why do you ban people?

 

Forum Guidlines, which all here agreed to before they started posting (whether one realizes it or not.) (Sorry Heat and Matt, he asked. I didn't think it needed an answer, but answered anyway.)

It is in Forum Options, I find it hard to beleive anyone could be here very long and not have known it's existance.

http://www.hipforums.com/forumguidelines.htm

Trolling, flaming and "speaking incessantly and/or rabidly on some relatively uninteresting subject or with a patently ridiculous attitude" as well as personal attacks and ban evasion are not under the Free Speech umbrella. EVERYONE here, includiing the banned, once agreed to these Guidlines, you were instructed to read them and agree to them BEFORE you started posting.

The Guidlines and the reason for bannings are Per Skip. The Dude who runs this forum. <Shrug> Last word on the subject.

 

I fully support the moderaters here and have never had any problems with them but this statement sure sounds like it is coming from some right wing dictator. Sure doesn't sound very "hip" to me, very non-democratic to say the least!

I thought one of the major docterines of hippiness was to question authority???

Oh, and please don't bannish me for voicing my opinion (free speech?) I kind of like it here

Anyway, I totally respect the moderators and their dilligence for making this place a very wonderful forum and getting rid of the creeps that are insistant on ruining it for everyone!!

 

i was beaten for many years by my ex and i don't think any one should be hit a female should not hit a man either it should be the same for all i not sayin i never hit my ex i did after lettin him do it to me for so long and feelin helpless lyin on the floor breathless from him chokin me that after awhile i did fight back but the rules should be the same efor everyonr

 

Sorry that happened to you, Purple

 

I sure as hell didn't write it. This has been HipForum Policy since day one.

everyone here should have read and agreed with the policies before they started posting.

The reason for it? Wasting the Mods time arguing about it. I am DONE discussing it. Now I KNOW for sure why Skip tells us why the Mods shouldn't be arguing about this. It's made to PROTECT the majority of the posters on the site, who are NOT fucking up. 99% of the people banned have given this site nothing but greif. We can't waste FIVE DAYS defending decisions based, often, on things that have a long history and most of the bans are done because of things the Mods are privy to, because we are here all the time, and know the histories as well as IP numbers, e mail addresses, OLD posts, aliases ect. MOST who piss and moan about someone being banned have NO IDEA about the history of that particular poster. It disrupts the site and makes a HELL of a lot of work and headcahes for the Mods AND the majority of the posters, who have no trouble agreeing with the Policies here.

I've been a a LOT of sites. Hip Forums is one of the MOST tolerant I have ever been on.

THAT is why this policy is here. I have now spent four or five days DEFENDING a Moderation decision concerning the banning a VERY bad troll with a LONG history of threats, trolling, attacks and hatred. I could be doing MORE important things with my time. But here I am. If Mods did this EVERY TIME some asshole was banned that is ALL we would do. And then there would be NO HIP FORUMS because NO ONE wants to waste their time repeating something that EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE READ before they made their FIRST POST?

WHY is anyone arguing with policies they agreed to when they signed up to this Forum????????????????

I am fucking DONE with this issue.

 

I'm not arguing with the guidlines, and yes, I read them and accepted them. But since you brought them up, I made a comment...


no big deal really

 

<Shrug> whatever......

 

I really don't have to worry about the double standard because if i hit my boyfriend he hits me back generally at the same force. If he does something to me I'll hit him back as well.

 

I'm wondering how this works. Are we talking about play-fighting here or actual physicality? Do you and your boyfriend inadvertently get into hitting each other every now and then? If you don't mind my asking, what impact does this understanding have on the relationship, and how did you come to that understanding of "hitting back at the same force" with each other?

My first girlfriend, when we began dating, matter-of-factly told me "oh, and if you hit me, I hit back" as sort of an FYI about our entering a relationship together. I didn't know what prompted her to say this, and of course I never did and never would hit her, but it struck me as a strange thing to say. I think it was important for her to assert that she wouldn't stand for any abuse, and I respected her for her strength in that regard.

Looking back, I can't help but wonder what her reaction would have been if I had been the one to say, "if you hit me, I hit back" to her. Or any woman's reaction to a guy saying that. I imagine the mere mention of any hitting would probably scare the girl off, yet when my ex-gf said it sort of made sense for her to be upfront about it. It seems like it wouldn't occur to a lot of men to be assertive with women in the same way. I doubt a lot women would expect men to be assert themselves about that sort of thing.

I think that difference is indicative of the serious nature people place on the issue of violence against women (which is a good thing). But I still believe we have a lot of preconceived notions to challenge about men's own inalienable right to self-defense and self-preservation. Why shouldn't it - and why doesn't it - occur to guys to take a stand against the very idea of being hit or slapped or scratched or having plates thrown at them (or whatever) by their partner?

 

I dont belive in hitting women. I believe in restraint if they go off on you and start swinging. Luckily I have never been put in that situation. But hey, I get along with everybody, and if I get mad at somebody, or I just dont like them, I walk away and I dont talk to them anymore. Violence is never the answer in my book. I respect everybody equally, male or female.

 

This might just be me being weird, but I like that double standart...

I'd never hit a woman, some women I know hit me sometimes, but it's all in great fun... Even tho they hit me hard

This girl I know even put out a cigerette on me while we were just plain talking and I'd never hurt her anyways, but she was sorry tho and she made well up for it afterwards, hehe...

But on that area I'm kinda medieval kinghty... I've wanted to hit women sometimes but never have

My best friend once hit his ex while I was there, I didn't really know her... But my medieval gene commanded me to knock him on the floor...
And my guy gene then commanded me to buy him a beer afterwards