No 2 ID : Campaign Against ID Cards

Discussion in 'UK Parties and Protests' started by Claire, Aug 10, 2005.

  1. Claire

    Claire Senior Member

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    [size=+0]Write a Protest Letter to your MP : Biometric Compulsory ID Cards : [/size]
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    [size=+0]Compulsory ID CARDS ARE DANGEROUS TO ANY SOCIETY. Hitler used them to profile people and make the holocaust possible, and the British people should not want our society to have Stazi secret police as they did in East Germany where citizens were spied on by their neighbours. Tony Blair's Labour Party want to take away your basic human rights. - Don't let them. Join NO2ID and show this Government what you think of them. Compulsory ID Cards are a threat to life as you know it, democracy and personal freedoms. Biometric ID Cards will take this away from you.
    Under Tony Blair’s New Labour, the British people’s human rights have been systematically eroded.

    See the free movies about how id cards were used to systematically find the victims of the Nazis.
    www.no2id.net/downloads/flashcomp.php#movies

    Compulsory IDENTITY CARDS ARE DANGEROUS TO ANY SOCIETY, and it is inevitable that if the Cards are introduced they will be Compulsory. If you refuse to get Tony Blair’s ID Card, you’ll be a criminal, and the British Home Secretary Charles Clarke and his cronies will fine you £2,500. ID Cards are costly and you’ll pay a large fee or through your taxes. This British Government are bringing in compulsory biometric ID Cards by introducing British biometric passports. Foreign multi national companies will know you most private and personal information.

    ID Cards give the Government the power to tell its citizens what they can and cannot do. The Nazis used ID Cards to find the people they didn't like, and to murder them. ID Cards were instrumental in profiling people that were Jewish, homosexual, religious and 'ethnic' minorities, the mentally and physically disabled, political opponents, and many other groups to be massacred in the holocaust.


    Only fifty years later we see that the lessons of the past have been forgotten by a Government apparently obsessed with modernisation and control of its citizens turning Britain into a totalitarian, slave society. I'm sure you don't want to be pushed about by the state and bullied by Big Brother inefficient and possibly corrupt bureaucrats, or to have a George Orwell 1984 society. Rich IT companies and Big Business corporations with vested financial profits at your expense would be controlling your life even more than they do today. Who's pockets are the Government lining? Past abuses of the cards and populartion databases in the UK itself, as well as the more horrific uses they have been put to in even recent years, are ignored under the name of protecting us from various threats, both mundane and terrifying that it seems the Labour Government have used to create fear to increase its centralised and arbitrary powers, rather than minimise problems.

    Tony Blair's Labour Party have eroded many of our civil liberties already, and ignored the British public and even the United Nations. ( WMD / Iraq / Detention without a lawyer or court trial.) Will this end when we are under a dictatorship? If you think "it couldn't happen here". It can happen anywhere. People are the same the world over. Do you believe that British politicians always tell the truth or don't abuse their position to hold on to power in our 'democracy'? Well if the answer is "No", think how ID Cards will hand over control in the balance of power to the Government. Hitler was 'democratically elected', and so were many other dictators.

    A centralised database would give the government total power over you and create a centralised dictatorship. All of your rights or lack of rights would be controlled through the (Un) Entitlement Card. The UK would not have an elected accountable Government. Why should ordinary citizens be answerable to Government, surely it should be the other way around. They should represent us, we should not be slaves. With ID Cards you might not be able to vote them out.

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    If your Biometric details are held on a database the Government will not even need an ID Card to follow your every movement. Big Brother can scan you through checkpoints no matter who you are. The card is open to corruption and abuse. And if NASA can be hacked into, so can this database, and any corrupt employee (of a foreign controlled multi-national) can invent, edit or delete each individual person’s records. Your personal and private details will be held on Government records, so forget privacy forever. It means that you can be discriminated against and ID Cards are a step towards a totalitarian regime taking power. Being on a database doesn’t stop a terrorist from carrying out activities. It criminalises those who believe in freedom of the individual and refuse to have an ID Card. Even with ID Cards an attack can be carried out. ID Cards cause mass social suppression they take away your individual civil liberties and freedoms. ID Cards are the instrument of totalitarian regimes.

    www.no2id.net/index.php
    Say No 2 ID Cards, say yes to democracy and freedom.

    "Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing because he could do only a little." (Edmund Burke, political thinker, 1729-97)
    www.writetothem.com Write to your (Labour) MPs to protect your human rights.

    To get involved in the Campaign against compulsory ID Cards. Join “NO 2 ID” and maintain democracy in Britain.
    www.no2id.net/getInvolved/index.php
    www.no2id.net/news/newsletters/newsletter.php?issue=21

    Civil liberties must be protected while they still exist to protect.

    This information may only be reproduced for the purpose of campaigning against ID Cards. Prior written permission is required for an edited version of this work ©2005


    Alastair Darling MP (Secretary of State at the UK Department of Transport), is the latest Labour Party lackey trying to railroad New Labour’s anti civil liberties policies through Parliament. Pay as you go road tolls (pay-as-you-go road tax) are planned through the use of GPRS tracking equipment. The global positioning system (GPS) satellite technology is the most recent human rights abuse by this Labour Government, in its attempts at tracking British Citizen’s every move. If New Labour really cared about the environment, they would not be so pro genetically modified products and GM crops (which benefits Labour’s Lord Sainsbury and other large donors to the Labour Party seem to have benefited from the legislation of Tony Blair and his Government); or planning to make thousands of people homeless by demolishing homes and communities in an expansion of Heathrow Airport; or to build housing on green belt land.
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  2. Merlin

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    I go on that website quite a lot. It's pretty cool. One thing I do wonder about though: No2ID are collecting donations to set up a legal defense fund should the system be introduced. Will people get their money back if the system isn't introduced, as it can still be defeated in parliament.
     
  3. freesmile

    freesmile Banned

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    Don't worry they don't take your donations/pledge unless the defence takes place when the system is been introduced, i've signed up to pledge to assist the defence against I.D. and they won't ask for any money or details untill the system is been introduced.
     
  4. Merlin

    Merlin Member

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    Oh right cool. Cheers. :)
     
  5. jonathan_s

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    They had to carry them around during the great war, so what's the problem? they all managed back then so why cant we manage now?
     
  6. Paul

    Paul Cheap and Cheerful

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    They had to carry them in Nazi Germany too ... to prove that you weren't Jewish.
     
  7. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    do you think its likely that they are going to arrest jews ?
     
  8. Paul

    Paul Cheap and Cheerful

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    No ... not Jews ... but some other ethnic groups aren't faring too well at the moment in the eyes of the state or the media.
     
  9. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    well Id say the media have bent over backwards showing these groups in a false good light

    and seeing the time its taken the government to do anything about people like omar bakri and abu hamsa ,and the thousands of people who have trained in terrorist camps abroad .
    and how they knight people who are head of groups set up by terrorist groups.
    Id say these groups have little to fear .
     
  10. Zonk

    Zonk Banned

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    Biggot.
     
  11. Paul

    Paul Cheap and Cheerful

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    Scary isn't it?

    Anyway, I was deliberately non-specific ...

    I might have been talking about travellers
     
  12. Zonk

    Zonk Banned

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    He's fucking obsessed!:rolleyes:
     
  13. DoktorAtomik

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    I'm not sure I really follow the j2m logic. Muslims are bad therefore ID cards are good?
     
  14. Zonk

    Zonk Banned

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    Perhaps you might be able to catch the muslims who don't look like muslims or something....:rolleyes:
     
  15. DoktorAtomik

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    Well seeing as those muslims are all so evil, maybe we should introduce concentration camps as well? Round 'em up where they can do no harm, eh?
     
  16. Paul

    Paul Cheap and Cheerful

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    You mean like spot if they're Brazilian? ...

    Hey maybe we could make muslims wear a gold cresecnt on their clothes ....
     
  17. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    Yes. I think that would be a reasonable and proportionate response to the current threat. And no innocent muslims would have anything to fear. Shouldn't be a problem if they have nothing to hide.
     
  19. Zonk

    Zonk Banned

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    Pre-fucking-cisely!
     
  20. jonny2mad

    jonny2mad Senior Member

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    I havent said that I think id cards are good or bad just that I think that they would not be used to round up ethnic groups
     
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