Well, it's either take it as is or apply one's own "personal interpretation" to it. This "out of context" mumbo jumbo I hear consistently is usually spouted off by the very ones who have NO clue of the original languages--Hebrew, Greek & Aramaic. However, it's fairly simple. CHRISTIANS LOVE JESUS. CHRISTIANS OBEY JESUS. JESUS SAID THOSE THINGS AS STATED ABOVE (whether he was speaking to Jews in 30 AD or not, he said them). TRUE CHRISTIANS WOULD PRACTICE WHAT JESUS' PREACHED BOTH PHYSICALLY AND "SPIRITUALLY". There are several verses in the Bible about such philosophies, it would take great sophistry and verbal gymnastics to dismiss all of these as mere "poetry" and suggestions for those Jews and not for oneself. Shame, shame...everybody knows your name. C'mon guys, stop playing your semantical games, and fork over the $20... WWJD?
Keep in mind back in the day of Jesus and till about 200 years after his death they didn't even have a full Bible. There was a creed. And it just gave the highlights of the Christian faith thus a person did not need a complete Bible in order to be saved. So in reality all a person really needs in order to be a "true" Christian is Jesus.
aw, poor darlin'. you ARE everything you're bitching about. smirking, self-satisfied, jerking off to your own ego and certainty that you're so correct about humanism and your beliefs being the only way to save the world.
Who said anything about "saving the world"? I am merely stating my opinion and some facts and issuing a challenge. You come in here and insult me right off the bat... People who refer to me as "arrogant" are just pissed because they don't care enough about themselves to come up with a decent reason as to why they believe what they believe...one of the "7 Deadly Sins"-- SLOTH.
good idea libertine! as you would have it, "PUT UP OR SHUT UP!" It is time that you realized you are a "christian" ;-((((((( and "christianity" is Anti-Messiah.......period....... "jesus", why you're so hung up on that imagined name given by pagan "catholicism", and her #1 daughter "the church OF england", to their imagined three-headed "god", you're so hung up i would be surprised if you weren't strung out to dry most of the time;-(((((( you write of "interpretation" as if it were the plague and "interpretation" not grounded in experience is the plague! thing is you're infected;-(((((( you're but a follower of a pervert called king james, or if you would base your "interpretation" on another translation, so it is that you but follow their version of the "christian" lie! the "strong delusion" that binds you and other "christians" in the chains of spiritual darkness;-((((((( yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope! hope that you, and those liken unto you, would quit serving "time" in the prison that is this world....... hope that you take heed unto The Call of The Great Spirit to: "Come out of her, MY people......." those who heed The Call will "come out" of this wicked world(babylon) and her systems of religious theo'ry'logy and they will "set their affections on things above" and as The Messiah did, so also will they desire above all else: "Father, not my will, But THY Will Be Done"! simply, such a desire is "The Way to The Truth of The Life"....... "christianity"? they follow "the broad way to destruction" and "The Great Spirit is going to destroy those who destroy HIS Creation(earth/people)"! yet, those who embrace simplicity, and realize that to do The Will of The ONE WHO created them is The Life will experience: peace, in spite of mankind's destructive processes....... francis
Wow...now I AM a Christian. Thanks, Francis...you've accomplished what no one else could. You just "deemed" me...and viola!...I am now a Christian.
That doesn't bother me. I don't have a problem with you at all. Just taken aback by the comments as being very brutal toward me for no known reason. But, I've gotten over that.
hey, you were a "christian" long before i ever posted anything at hipforums.......period....... yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope! for you, for all who are held captive by the "strong delusion" that is pagan "catholicism" and her harlot daughter "christianity" ;-(((((( hope that you would see that "jesus" is but the imagined name given an imagined "god" by a pagan harlot religious system created of "the god of this world", he who is "the father of lies".......period....... all who "see" will flee babylon AND her religious systems. for they will "see" their destructive processes and they know that "The Great Spirit is going to destroy those who destroy HIS Creation(earth/people)" yet those who follow The Messiah? they will desire above all else, "Father(Great Spirit), not my will, But THY Will Be Done"! they will serve HIM as they nurture, respect, and experience(learn) HIS Creation and they will have, peace, in spite of the destructive processes....... francis ASpiritualJourney.Org
I admire your sincerity and persistence. Your so far in now, my appeals to reason are like a "sound brass and a tinkling cymbal" to you. ha ha... Press forward, my friend. If I can't communicate with someone on a seemingly rational level, I will just smile and admire their spunk.
I'm sorry, but can you change the record please? You say that in EVERYONE of your posts.. and, tbh, it's getting old... Sure, we know that you think we can all be saved, but do you HAVE to keep saying it? BTW, all your christians, cough-up... I want £20 also - per month..
"RATIONAL"! what be just like the rat's in the race? ;-(((((( no thank you! "rational" is the "religion" of the "braindirtyed";-(((((( no wonder you're hung up on the "jesus" of "christianity"....... Spiritual! yes, The Great Spirit does "commun"icate with HIS Children! and that which is REAL is FOREVER and "The LIFE" is FOREVER.......period....... all else is forever death, death experienced forever:-(((((( Get REAL! while there is breath(spirit) there is hope! Miracles are REAL! breath by breath by,,,,,,,,, peace, in spite of the destructive "rational" processes....... francis
while there is breath(spirit), there IS HOPE! "HOPE IS", can't change that! why reject a Gift received of The Great Spirit? sad that so many do in their desire to please themselves and others;-(((((( yet, while there is breath(spirit) there is hope! hope that there would be those who would seek to please The One WHO Created them rather to please themselves and others.......period....... peace, even as war(spiritual and carnal) rages....... francis
You don't have to be high... He just said being rational was for the dirty mind. I guess he enjoys his Kool-Aid...JIM JONES STYLE...
Hahaha, you ever hear that Deicide song from Legion where they have a recording of Jim Jones saying "drink the wine, drink the wine, they'll be coming with flamethrowers, drink the wine, they are coming to kill us!" Anyway, you sure Francisco doesn't enjoy his Kool-Aid Ken Kesey style?