The Galactic Confederation.. Jedi brothers in arms

Read about the Galactic Confederation, Beings that work with light and the true conciousness of God as one of peace and love.

As many of you are aware, they have been enlightening those on earth for while now.

Read how these "Jedi" brothers in arms have won the battle for our souls and what we were facing...

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/creator/overview.htm

http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/creator/markbeast6.htm

May peace be with you all...

 

are we posting this everywhere?

Am I the only one that thinks that accociating religion with Star Wars or anything somewhat popculturish mildly hilarious?

 

Not really....no more hilarious than any other religion......Jedi Knight is a fully recognised religion here in the UK..people have the right to follow wotever religion they choose... and the govt has a duty to afford respect and recognition of peoples beliefs

 

I agree in practicing any religion you want.... but there's a fine line between practicing an actual religion and dancing around like an idiot while worshiping a movie character.

 

I'm glad you feel the need to judge others religions It's people like you that kept western Europe stuck in the Dark Ages for so many centuries.

 

People like me? really... well obviously you don't know me all that well.

I'd love to know how a religion is a religion because its central character is one from a movie. I mean, why not start up a Wizard of Oz religion? We can pave all our roads yellow and wear red shoes and somehow following this golden path leads us to salvation? Or a religion based on the film Psycho? We can all mumify our mothers, run hotels, stab people in showers and burn incense afterwards?

These are fictional characters intended to entertain, and nothing more. If you want to base a religion on a spiritual being, or create a form of spirituality based on spirit, like Judaism or Christianity or Buddhism etc do, knock yourself out, that's valid. But movie characters stay in movies.

Trust me, I don't mean to be insulting. I'd be the first person to stand up for you to practice any religion you want. But at the same time, we have to keep our heads on our shoulders and be a bit more realistic and gain some perspective.

 

I've also read through both links posted originally - it does sound more like paranoia than anything else...

 

I hate to burst your bubble Cerridwen...but all religious beliefs are based on text written by humans....be it the writing of the apostles...Gerald Gardner...the Dhali Lama....there are no religious texts/beleif systems that come directly from a diety...the nearest we got were Yahweh's scribbling on tablets of stone...and they managed to be lost with the Arc of the Covenant...The Book of Genesis and the Book of Revelations are factual...right...to my eye they are much more fantastical than 99% of modern media-based storytelling.

A movie made in the 1970's has just as much validity for a belief system than any other.......just because it doesn't fit your preconcieved ideas of a belief system....does that really make it's followers wrong? .

But yeah, go ahead, stamp on peoples beliefs....hell, you ain't the first to claim that a religion has little validity Torquemada and Hitler were pretty big on that as well, if I remember rightly

A religion exists (sometimes recognised by the law, sometimes not) because people believe in it......it's as simple as that. I don't think it needs any more validity than that.

 

True to a point, but keep in mind that the text written by humans was inspired by God/Buddha/angels etc. There was some devine intervention involved.

um, actually it kind of does, no offense. And it's not my preconcieved ideas, it's just the way it is. The folks who created characters like Jedis, Dorothy and the Wicked Witch, Captain Picard etc did so in a moment of creative inspiration, not devine intervention like the authors of the Bible and the Dhali Lama.

right, somehow in some weird dilluted way, I'm just like Hitler, I can totally see that. It's a good thing you're not taking things to an extreme.

Couldn't agree with you more. I don't know if you've ever studied religions as a whole (I mean actually studied, not just read the occasional book out of interest) but I think that if you - or anyone - put some devout effort in studying world religions, all beliefs, you'd develop a better understanding between that gray area that separates God and Buddha vs Jedi knights.

 

How do we know Lucas wasn't divinely inspired to write the text he wrote?

Or better yet...what are the conditions of diviine inspiration? Does the author of the text have to claim it themselves? Does someone else important have to claim it? Does it have to be old?



Or is it just that people have to believe it?

 

touche, sara michelle, touche, You can see the light around George Lucas.

 

It doesn't have to be old... Doesn't anyone understand the difference between divine intervention and creative spirit? I would gladly take this whole Jedi Religion schtick more seriously if George Lucas had sat down and written a Bible of sorts before the movies were released... or even afterwards... whatever. Lucas hasn't created a religion, the fluffies who live in their basements who read Star Wars books and go to all the conventions are the ones who invented this, that's what you're worshiping.

right....

 

just because you can't...doesn't mean that others can't

 

it's not a matter of CAN'T - I don't think you realize how silly it sounds.

 

I don't think it sounds any more sillier than any other religions.


When you believe in Christ the son of God are you just worshipping the fluffies that wrote his story? When a person worships God, or Allah, or Buddha, or any other gods and goddesses are they just worshipping the stories and ideas of those who believed in them, and not the gods themselves? You may think not, but then if that is the case for you then why not those who follow the Jedi beliefs?

Perhaps it is just to modern to get the appreciation of a society that mainly practices older beliefs. But whose to say what another thousand years of human history will bring...Maybe the Roman's of Christ's time felt he and his followers was just as silly as these jedi nuts running around today.

 

Personally, I never felt that seeing auras was silly...

 

Eh, no. Most religions have no holy scripture/writings, or at least were not based on it.

Back to the main topic though... The real issue here is what makes a religion a religion? What is the difference between a cult and a religion? Not much, if you ask me, besides age and tradition, and perhaps the number of adherents. Now, age doesn't make something true, traditions don't either, and Truth is not a popularity contest.

Is the Jedi religion silly? To me, yes. But then, most religions seem a bit silly, especially the new ones. Like all the cults we've seen come and go recently. The Raliens are pretty out there. And yeah, Jedi Religion is based on a movie. Certainly it was invented, but so what? Lots of religions were invented, perhaps even Christianity and Islam. Who's to verify that Mohammed spoke to an angel? Who's to say Jesus ever existed, or that the Gospels aren't fiction? It's known that Paul wrote his letters way before the Gospels existed, they may have been invented to give weight to what he was saying.

Anyways, Lucas got a lot of ideas from, and was inspired by, Joseph Campbell, the guy who did all that work with myths. So the idea of the Jedi is at least partly based on aspects from spiritual traditions, including the motif of "the hero". So the movie is based on world religions (sort of), so the Jedi Religion does have some plausability.

 

The capacity for human self-deception is humiliating to say the least.

 

Both are the same.

 

You're absolutely right. I guess my point of view is just that when there's a religion that's based on a holy book, whatever the religion may be, it sounds a bit more plausible than a religion based on a movie.