First Time Questions

It looks like i'm finally going to be trying psilocybin mushrooms for the first time this week (been waiting to graduate) and i have a few questions.

i'll give you some background first. Im an 18 year old male and i've been smoking marijuana for 3 years, i had my first psychedelic experience at the beginning of this summer using salvia divinorum 10x, which was extremly intense. Im a pretty layed back, positive person, and I love the outdoors.
I'd also like to state for the record that i have researched this substance on Erowid and shroomery
Two of my friends and I, one who has previously used mushrooms at a small dosage, have planned our mushroom experience.

We are going to go camping in a secluded area, we plan to ingest 2 grams each (dried weight) around 5:00pm so we get a bit of day time and night time trip. There will be a tent set up in case the outdoors causes the trip to get too intense

Here are my questions:

-Will 2 grams of average quality psilocybin mushrooms be enough to give us a trip that isnt overly intense but still has powerful effects (a medium effects rating)?

-Is a trip sitter required for mushrooms? should we all take them at the same time?

-When should we eat when taking the mushrooms? before ingestion? after, while waiting for the effects to take hold? or should integrate the mushrooms into a meal?

-should we even go camping for our first trips? should we just stay in?

-Any other suggestions for a first timer?

thanks in advance for the help

 

It sounds like you are either really excited, or really worried. The best thing you can do it have an excited, positive attitude. If you all are not experienced trippers, you should probably bring someone who plans not to trip with you. Fast for about 6 hours before you plan to eat the mushrooms, and take them all together. It's better if everyone starts their trip at about the same rate and time.


Camping is a good idea. The outdoors is really nice and you don't have to worry about people or cops. Looking at the stars is amazing and trees are really cool as well. Bring some pot and some food most definitely. ONce you eat the mushrooms, eating can be really entertaining and smoking is nice as well.

I'm not exactly sure about the weight and I don't want to tell you wrong. All mushrooms contain varying amounts of psilocybin so I would try taking half of what you plan to take, let it kick in, and if you want the trip to intensify take the other half or quarter or whatever.

 

it depends, but most likely not. you wont TRIP, anyway. you'll be kinda high from 2g, but its a pretty low dose. i would not recommend taking less than 3g...and for your first time, no more than probably 4g at most. an on point eighth would be ideal.

again it depends, but for a low dose (eighth or less) a trip sitter isn't necessary - IF YOU TRUST YOURSELF. if you have doubts, it won't hurt to have someone else on hand on half your dose or just real stoned or whatever. but they have to be with it enough to help you if you need it. most likely you'll be fine without at this kind of dose.

 

btw, the doses i referred to are for cubensis only. stronger species will fuck you up beyond belief for a first timer if you eat that much, and weaker species won't do as much and make you more sick.

also, what most people dont realise is its all in your head. occasionally there are physiological effects such as nausea from trying to digest the fungal matter, but in most cases most physical effects are just projections of mental instabilities such as anxiety, fear, nervousness, guilt, etc. if you remain calm and collected and try not to overthink things, you should have minimal negative bodily effects.

 

thanks for the advice! i've held off for a long time because i wanted to graduate before i tryed any psychedelic drugs, because of this i see this as a special experience, and i couldnt be more excited for it.
i wont do any other psychoactive substances for a week prior to this, as i want to experience the mushrooms alone, kind of like a sacrament.
thanks again for the help!

 

I'm really excited for you!! Tell us how it goes!!

 

i shall

 

Sounds like a good plan. Next time I trip I think I'm going to camp too. Splitting an 1/8 with your friend should be a good amount for your first time. It might help you to relax and enjoy the trip knowing that someone sober is there to help take care of you. I've only tripped once so I definitely want a sitter if I'm going to be in the woods...

 

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I have a question myself:

I have 2 seringes of mushroom spores, and I plan to grow them all... how many mushrooms would that be? How many should I dry for tea?

(sorry I am totally unexperienced with growing mushrooms or anything actually... I usually drink mushroom tea already all ready)

 

Me personally will usually eat about an 1/8 and that'll set me straight, just go with the flow and the whole camping part of it is about the best envirment that i can think of to do it in.

 

I dont know to much about all that but check out shroomer.org .net what ever tha hell it is and you'll do fine. Enjoy and pass a few this way if ya want

 

there are many ways to grow mushrooms, ranging from really easy (nearly garaunteed success) with a pretty low yield, to pretty iffy but with a huge payoff. i'd suggest looking over cultivation info at www.shroomery.org

as for dosage, just dry the whole crop and decide your smaller dosage out of the large supply. i would highly recommend making your tea with fresh mushrooms whenever possible, though.

 

Thanks..
I thought mushrooms had to be dried first to make tea, well, this makes things easier

 

You'll have a great time bro. I'd reccomend going for an eighth, if you're going for the real deal. I few weeks ago two buds of mine and I had eighths each, smoked a bunch of bowls and went hiking in the woods at night...we got totally lost and almost walked into a pond we thought looked like Rivendell....it was blast. That's my kind of trip...getting lost and going crazy and just being totally wild. You might like something different though. Don't just go with THE flow, go with YOUR flow.

 

fresh is better, because drying them will almost invariably reduce the amount of alkaloids in it. if you're looking at the potency by weight (P:T, P=weight of psilocin, psilocybin, related alkaloids, T=total weight of mushroom) then dry mushrooms are stronger, but the difference in weight comes from water mostly, so when you use them fresh theres really no more mushroom, just more water and a higher amount of alkaloids. dried are more potent when you're looking at weight, fresh are more potent when you're looking at the number of mushrooms you're using. does that make any sense? sorry i'm making it more complicated than i need to...its just a hard concept for me to discuss.

at any rate, another advantage of making tea with fresh mushrooms is often overlooked.....think about what happens when you dry a mushroom. most notably, they reduce in size by far over 50%. so think about it: if you can cut up a mushroom into little bits, you can only make the peices so small before it becomes too difficult. if you cut it dried, it's going to have more fungal matter per little peice than if you cut it fresh, because the fresh mushroom cut into tiny bits could potentially dry and shrink up into smaller bits than you'd have if you were cutting them after they've already dried. so in terms of making tea, this is a positive boon because the more finely cut the mushrooms, the more thorough your extraction will be.

 

That makes sense Thank you for your explanation and advice!

 

wow i took the mushrooms yesterday. it was amazing, it wasnt so much visual because i took just a small dose 1.5-1.75 grams, but it was very emotional and euphoric, everything around me seemed so beautiful and significant...mushrooms are awesome! i think i'd do them again in the future

 

^^^hey, sounds like you had a good trip. i'm surprised that you got an effect at such a low dose. thats good though. mushrooms can provide quite a visionary experience. next time maybe you want to try a bit higher of a dose...around 3g.

penny, if you're a first timer at growing and you don't have anyone else with you who has experience, i'd say to do one syringe at a time. first use an easy method. something like the PF Tek is, as nesta said, nearly a guaranteed success. if you can squeeze out about 3 flushes, and you keep a close eye on moisture (perlite in your tank works wonders), you could probably get about 1.5-2 oz. if you screw it up the first time, you've always got the second syringe to try to work out your mistakes. and, if you do produce some mushrooms, you've got more spores! shroomery is an awesome website, so much information. spend a lot of time on there and research what you think what might be an easy method. also look into mods which others say have produced stonger/more flushes. best of luck to you.

 

ya im deciding to take it slow, i may take 2.25-2.5 grams next time...i decided to take such a small dose because i usually have very low tolerances to these kinds of chemicals (THC, salvinorin, ect...)