Why does "W" kill in the name?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by MistyMountainTop, Aug 6, 2005.

  1. MistyMountainTop

    MistyMountainTop Member

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    Why does George W. Bush send American soldiers off to die and kill others and then imposes some kind of religios connotation to his actions? I saw on the news a few nights ago he was saying something like "all those U.S. troops who died, we're all praying for you". ??????? If he didn't send them off to fight they wouldn't be dead. Why doesn't he pray for the people on the "other side" that died? Why does he kill in God's name? What the dilly?
     
  2. Epiphany

    Epiphany Copacetic

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    The Catholic church killed those whom refused to comply with their man made rules during the crusades. Countless "witches", were burnt at the stake, based merely upon speculation. Throughout history, these so-called, "Christians", have been subdued by spiritual blindness and believed that they were doing the will of God. The sad thing is the fact that their actions are a far cry from the Lord.
     
  3. Sage-Phoenix

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    Exactly

    Perhaps Bush genuinly is so stupid that he doesn't know how wrong it is. Or he just wants to win suppourt from other 'Christians' and make the disaster alright. He's stepped in so far, and no body wants to turn round and say 'yeah you're right, I fucked up', especially not a president.

    What Jesus do?
    Get the hell out of there, and not start stupid little wars in the first place, retards.
    Blessed are the peace makers, he who is without sin my cast the first stone, THOU SHALT NOT KILL
    See how can someone who is supposedly an ignorant heretic know/believe that, whilst devout Christians refuse to.
    Then they have the nerve to claim I'm going to burn in hell. Hey might be a pagan but you don't see me going to war.

    Everyone says God's on their side, it's in his name, blah blah. No piss off, it's your personal petty little issue. Fight your own battles and leave the dieties out if it. Everyone is simply a person, one of Gods' people if you will, regardless of their beliefs, that's why the Gods don't take sides.

    Just needed to get that out of my system.
    Don't really have a problem with Christianity per say, just morons, and they're of all religions (if in name only)
     
  4. Kharakov

    Kharakov ShadowSpawn

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    Of course, once you have been resurrected 3 or 4 times you recognize that you have eternal life an others do to. You don't have to worry about the killin, the spillin, and the fillin. God'll take care of it.
     
  5. Jorma's Branches

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    Dubya is confused about his religion. I believe it's the book of Revelation which features the false Christ on a white horse with a bow. That's the image of a warlord, the savior that Jews had awaited in Jesus' times. Bush believes that his religion is /the/ religion and therefore pursues and active campaign of violence in following with the false Christ.
    The "real" Jesus came as a figurehead of peace and tolerance. Sure, his words have been bastardized and dilluded in the Bible, but in his original form he remains a powerful figurehead. If Bush were following a real Christ, he would pursue an agenda of peace.
     
  6. james q

    james q Uranian

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    but he's not, so his christ is not real either. it's an affectation to win the support of his followers and justify his wicked racist politics which aim to rid the world of inferior beings of a different religion who happen 2 control the resources and geography he covets. his christ is a warmongerer.
     
  7. Jorma's Branches

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    His Christ isn't Christ.
     
  8. Beleg

    Beleg Member

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    What would Jesus bomb?
     
  9. IronGoth

    IronGoth Newbie

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    Um, how many people would sign up if he said "you're dying for oil and Halliburton, boys!"
     
  10. Love_N_it

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    probably about half of whatever is left, I think the truth would kill most of US.

    after watching his motivational speach while he was introducing another one of his brainchilds, the Energy Policy Act, that is part three of his bad Clean Air Act. nobody who should be considered as 'safeguarding' our environment has the proper wording in their policy to actually enforce the rules and regulations contained in ,,, the ACT. Nowhere does it give this government the responsibility or ability to say FREEZE! to industrial sources of toxic pollution.
    they just evaluate the crime for two more years and compare the amounts to the prior two years and if they haven't been reducing their pollution outputs, they discuss possible ways to fund that industry so it can reduce it's ability to produce so much pollution.

    compared to his approach on terrorist. " President freezes terrorist assets"
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2001/09/20010924-4.html

    compare that disposition to the character he plays in his other ACTing jobs today.
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/20050808-6.html
    it sounds like he's talking smack in one, and selling fake crack in the other.

    He's got some plan! track down the people this government chooses to associate with terrorist activities and take all the money out of their checking accounts. Make no mistake about it, he's intentionally expediting the date of his well deserved ass whippin!
    "We will starve the terrorists of funding, turn them against each other, rout them out of their safe hiding places and bring them to justice."
    funny thing is.... he's gonna play dumb when they start coming out of our convience stores and hotel/motels that they own in this country. I guess he really wants to push this war all the way to the end.

    "Just to show you how insidious these terrorists are, they oftentimes use nice-sounding, non-governmental organizations as fronts for their activities."
    holy shit! how insidious of them , to sound nice and use false names to identify themselves... load the bombers !! Drop at least 4 Atomic Bombs on these evil monsters !!!Immediately !

    "I want to assure the world that we will exercise this power responsibly"
    they are going to drop 6 atomic bombs in the desert.

    "We will lead by example. We will work with the world against terrorism. Money is the lifeblood of terrorist operations. Today, we're asking the world to stop payment. "
    what's good for the goose is good for the gander, you ignorant monkey dick!

    "But make no mistake about it, we're going after them all. And we'll win, we're going to win. Terrorists are going to realize they can't face down freedom. Terrorists are going to realize they made a big mistake, they miscalculated America. And I think they miscalculate a lot of our allies and friends, too. There is a determined will, and we accept the challenge in this administration. "

    Here we go, we are going after them, (it would be nice if a description or title accompanied 'them') and we will win, eventho' we do not have an identifiable enemy to engage... the terrorist are going to realize they can't hide from their own face. If the terrorist miscalculated America then America is even for miscalculating Hiroshima, and Nagasaki.
    I think, you must be as scared as you look when you are not speaking prepared words, your foolish ass couldn't even make a proper sentence when the reporters notified you about Peter Jennings death..
    my calculator is malfunctioning lately also, who is this government so scared of that in the middle of a blood holy war, the u.s. goes rescue a russian submarine?


    Bend over and kiss your ass goodbye. :$
     
  11. Jorma's Branches

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    I prefer: Who would Jesus do?
     
  12. Chodpa

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    That's the irony. The original Christians were slaves, the disenfranchised and other potential troublemakers. The Church under Holy Roman Emperor Constantine made the slave religion its official religion and at that very moment subjegated the disenfranchised again for the next 2,000 years. Since then Christianity has not been the communistic religion of charity and equality that Jesus taught but the official religion of the Empire.

    So it's ironic in the extreme to have the Emperor speak as if they are Christians. It's a mealy mouthed lie.

    Jesus said, "Turn the other cheek." He didn't say, summarily crush your enemies. Bush is a mealy mouthed liar, as are all those who kill in the name of a safer empire. This is just what Jesus didn't teach.

    The irony is killing me.







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  13. Love_N_it

    Love_N_it Banned

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    http://www.secretservice.gov/contact_usss.shtml
    I've been sending love letters to the wonderful people at the USSS, they are a lot like YOU punks and spoiled ass rotten chaps who never respond to me either. This is what I sent them today.

    What do you feed the monkey in the Bushs with...big fat Dick?

    http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?cat=breakingnews&id=20050822/43094dc0_3ca6_1552620050822765943970

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    onday, August 22, 2005
    SALT LAKE CITY - President Bush compared the fight against terrorism to both world wars and other great conflicts of the 20th century as he tried to reassure an increasingly skeptical public on Monday to support U.S. military involvement in Iraq.
    With the anti-war movement finding new momentum behind grieving mother Cindy Sheehan, Bush acknowledged the fighting in Iraq is difficult and dangerous. But he told the Veterans of Foreign Wars national convention the fight is necessary to keep terrorists out of the United States.
    As he did in last year's election campaign and more recently as war opposition has risen, Bush reminded his listeners of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001 - reciting the date five times in a 30-minute speech.
    "We're not yet safe," Bush said. "Terrorists in foreign lands still hope to attack our country. They still hope to kill our citizens. The lesson of Sept. 11, 2001, is that we must confront threats before they fully materialize."

    What is your boss' plan, to fight this war untill he has eliminated all of the hope in the world to defeat #1 ?
    If he kills everybody with a rag on their head and a Quran in their house, does he intend to go after little league football and baseball players too?


    ""Besides his references to Sept. 11 and the war on terror, Bush also spoke of earlier global fights.
    "In a single lifetime, many of you have seen liberty spread from Germany and Japan to Eastern Europe to Latin America to Southeast Asia and Africa and beyond," Bush told the largely gray-haired crowd.
    "The generation of men and women who defend our freedom today is taking its rightful place among the heroes of our nation's history.""
    He is not only making a complete ass out of every American citizen because he represents the U.S., he is also turning every single one of us into a target for the civilized people of the world that have not been fooled by the American press into believing that his intentions are to save US.
    If you took a poll among veterans and today's military personnel you would see first hand that this war is a DISGRACE to our Nation.

    The United States is fighting a war against TERROR.
    Main Entry: ter·ror
    Pronunciation: 'ter-&r
    Function: noun
    1 : a state of intense fear

    The United States Military if fighting a war against a STATE OF MIND.
    You should be scared. Especially when your enemy is not a person place or thing. Oh my God! we should be scared.

    I was anticipating a reply to my previous questions to the president, but since him nor this agency has had the time to respond to me, I was wondering if the vice president had anything to say ?
    Does George enjoy the time he spends in private, with big fat Dick?

    that's word for word what I sent them today... nothing but love baby!
     
  14. Love_N_it

    Love_N_it Banned

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  15. Lagidae

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    Greetings all.

    Mission accomplished - again.

    Iraq to become an Islamic Republic ruled by sharia law (theocracy).

    Hmm, I thought the idiot in the White House said the war was to find WMDs & to spread democracy?

    Mission acommplished, indeed.

    Oh, what was it the White House was dribbling out of the corners of its drooling mouth just the other day?

    "...What we expected to achieve was never realistic given the timetable or what unfolded on the ground," said a senior official involved in policy since the 2003 invasion. "We are in a process of absorbing the factors of the situation we're in and shedding the unreality that dominated at the beginning..."

    Say what?


    As Blanche DuBoiswould say: "I don't want reality. I want magick."

    Oh, yes, & the objective in Vietman was to prevent it from becoming communist.

    2005 & Vietnam is still communist.

    Mission accomplished.

    *poof*
     
  16. soaringeagle

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    lol it should say thank you, you have just been added to our lists of potential terrorists, please wait by your pc while we decide wether to detain you or deport you
    have a nice day

    lol
     
  17. rainbowpower

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    Hey, when you're president, then you may do as you please. Until then, shut the hell up, and stop complaining. Dubya is a greater man than you will ever be.
     
  18. james q

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    well i'll respond. i think what u've said and done here is fabulous and that if u were in the room i'd walk up to u and shake ur hand. i dunno if i'll feel that way every time u post, but i'll certainly be reading to find out bro, peace...
    ps and thanks for the sense of humour as well, ur a funny bugger.
     
  19. soaringeagle

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    but back to the origibal question..dumnya (i like that better then dubya..more accurate)like most religouse folks suffer from a mental disease known as self ritousness..which causes them to not only claim that they know everything about the ultimate truth, but also they know gods will (meanning that whatever they decide to do must be the will of god since they are 1 of gods "chosen" people) this allows them to rationalize that even the greatest of evils is really the greatest good since it must be godswill since 1 of gods people is deciding its the right thing to do..circular logic..but thats what christianity (& all religions) are based on..god exists cause the bible says so, the bible says so cause that is gods words..that is gods words cause the bible says so..& so on

    ok so there you have a president whobeleives everything he decides must be gods will since he beleives he surrendered his will to god or whatever, so therefore he is not responcible for his own decisions it must be gods descision to kill kill kill

    gotta love rationalization huh?
    & dont forget, even if hes wrong & he is the 1 condemning them to die, he will be forgiven
    kinda makes it easy to be evil dont it? it sure is easy to be evil when u got god on your side
     
  20. Lagidae

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    Greetings all.

    Amerikkkan Christian ayatollah, Pat Robertston, has issued a fatwa (religious order of execution) against legally elected president of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez.


    From
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10 :

    ``...We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come to exercise that ability,' Robertson said yesterday on the program, an audiotape of which was posted on the Web site of the Christian Broadcasting Network, founded by the cleric and based in Virginia Beach, Virginia. ``This is a dangerous enemy to our south controlling a huge pool of oil.''


    Got that? OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL...

    Robertson said that Chavez is going to make Venezuela a ``launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism all over the continent.'' Killing Chavez, who is currently visiting Cuba, would be cheaper than starting a war, he said...”

    May little baby Jeeeeezuhzzzz send Pat Robertson to an eternal skinny dip in the lake of fire. Selah.

    During a past hurricane threat to Florida, Ayatollah Pat Robertson prayed along with many of his extreme fundamentalist sect that the hurricane hit Orlando, Florida, because of acceptance of the gay tourist $$$market$$$. Instead, the hurricane hit the area of Florida in which was located one of Ayatollah Pat Robertson's regional offices.

    Pity, Ayatollah Pat Robertson's spin on that wasn't made public in a press release.

    Oh, cackle.

    *Poof*
     

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