The Illusion of Democracy

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The Illusion of Democracy
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
August 20, 2005




By Henry Makow, Ph.D.


A "Far Side" cartoon describes our innocence about democracy.

One of many slaves rowing a Viking warship puts up his hand and calls to the whip master: "Yoo-hoo! Oh, yoo-hoo... I think I'm getting a blister."

Like the slave, most people still believe our leaders represent our interests.

"Yoo, hoo, Mr. Bush, you lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction."

At an elite gathering recently, Bush peered under his lectern and quipped: "Where are those weapons of mass destruction?"

A tiny cabal of international bankers chooses our "leaders". This clique, which subtly controls every significant facet of our society is gradually establishing an Orwellian global police state. Much of the ruling class has been duped to think they are building a better world.

Prove it, you say? Where is the smoking gun?

"The Naked Capitalist" by W.C. Skousen (available at www.abe.com & www.bookfinder.com) is yet another smoking gun. It is based on the revelations contained in Professor Carroll Quiqley's "Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time." (1966)

Quiqley, a Professor of History at the Foreign Service School at Georgetown University was a trusted insider who had access to their private archives. He felt the plot, which he supported, was too important to be kept hidden. However, shortly after publication, his book was taken off the market.

Cleon Skoussen was an FBI agent for 16 years and the Police Chief of Salt Lake City for four years. In his self-published "The Naked Capitalist" he distilled the most shocking evidence from Quigley's daunting 1300-page book.

At just 122 pages, "The Naked Capitalist" (1970) is a concise, lucid and absolutely convincing account of the international banker conspiracy. Historians who have largely ignored this material have betrayed the public trust.


OUR PREDICAMENT


Quigley confirms that a network of banking dynasties has, in Skousen's words, "acquired a choke-hold on the affairs of practically the entire human race." According to Quigley, they include "Baring, Lazard, Erlanger, Warburg, Schroder, Selingman, the Speyers, Mirabaud, Malet, and above all Rothschild and Morgan." (Citations are from Tragedy and Hope, 51-52)

Quigley confirms that, starting with the Bank of England in 1694, these dynasties organized themselves in a system of central banks that charge their respective nations billions of dollars in interest for the privilege of using currency backed by the nations' own credit. In other words, they have carried off a swindle of monstrous proportions.

Quigley quotes William Gladstone who as Chancellor of the Exchequer said in 1852: "The government itself was not to be a substantive power in matters of Finance, but was to leave the Money Power supreme and unquestioned." (325)

In other words, a cartel of private families controls the governments' purse strings.

Using their ability to create money out of nothing, they naturally grabbed as much of the world's real wealth as they could. Quigley writes about the formation of their American cartels: "The period 1884-1933 was the period of financial capitalism in which investment bankers moving into commercial banking and insurance on the one side, and into railroading and heavy industry on the other were able to mobilize enormous wealth and wield enormous economic, political and social power." (71)

Indeed their representatives, the "Eastern Establishment" i.e. the Morgans and now the Rockefellers run the United States. (72) The principle mechanism is the Council on Foreign Relations, an offshoot of Britain's Royal Institute of International Affairs, itself a front for the Rothschilds' and Cecil Rhodes' secret Round Table society.

According to Quigley, the ultimate goal is "nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled ...by the central banks...acting in concert." (324)

Quigley confirms that the bankers have usurped mankind's collective instincts by financing the Socialist and Communist movements. Bankers love big government because the ultimate monopoly is the State. Through it, they take over their competition and control debt, resources, market demand and labor.

Speaking of the Communist takeover of the US government in the 1930's and 1940's, Quigley writes, "it must be understood that the power that these energetic left-wingers exercised was never their own power of Communist power but was ultimately the power of the international financial coterie." (954)

In other words, millions of idealists committed to human brotherhood and equality were (and are) duped into advancing a totalitarian scheme to concentrate the world's wealth and power into the hands of the superrich. More savvy Leftists, Communists, Feminists and Globalists continue to prosper while unctuously pretending to serve humanity.

The Money Power controls the debate and encourages gridlock by backing all shades of the political spectrum and marginalizing anyone who shines the spotlight on them. (Ever wonder why Leftists like Noam Chomsky never mention international bankers and the credit system?) The media is controlled through direct ownership and advertising.

Quigley writes: "To Morgan all political parties were simply organizations to be used, and the firm always was careful to keep a foot in all camps. Morgan himself, Dwight Morrow and other partners were allied with the Republicans; Russell C. Lewffingwell was allied with the Democrats; Grayson Murphy was allied with the extreme Right; and Thomas W. Lamont was allied with the Left." (945)

The Lamont family was "sponsors and financial angels to almost a score of extreme Left organizations including the Communist Party itself." (945)


CONCLUSION


A small cabal of people who are not even citizens hold the financial purse strings of every nation.

This goes a long way to explaining "globalization" and the push to one-world government. It explains the assault on race, religion, nation and family. The bankers want a homogenous world that offers no basis of resistance.

It explains why in a time of supposed security danger, the southern border of the US is practically porous. The bankers want to undermine America's European character, which it perceives as a threat.

It explains the war on Iraq, and the fact that there is no opposition in the mainstream parties or press. This war desecrates a cradle of civilization and is the religion of Islam. It is also an opportunity to create more debt and enrich the bankers and their corporate allies.

It explains 9-11, the Patriot Repression Act and the phony "War on Terror."

It explains the depraved mass media and stupifying education system. I could go on but you get the picture. We are cril at the mercy of a gigantic whale. At the very least, let's not waste energy thinking we live in a free and open society. Our democracy is a ruse.

The over two-million-year human experiment may remain stalled indefinitely because governments did not have the wit, integrity and courage to print their own currencies .

 

You are COINTELPRO.

 

What makes you think I am COINTELPRO? If I was COINTELPRO, I'd probably be posting articles from Disinformation Now or Fix News.

 

A couple of things about Pressed Rat

Rat is an accused liar who is unable to defend himself against that accusation.

Rat is a right wing libertarian who wishes to give more wealth and power to the very wealthy groups he claims to be against.

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The truthfulness of all Rat’s post should therefore be in question, especially those containing the claim he is against the power and influence of the wealthy.

You have been warned.

 

Balbus - do you know how idiotic you make yourself look with such baseless claims? You talk about my claims being baseless, but you can't even say in which way "I wish to give more wealth and power to the very wealthy groups he claims to be against." All you can do is repeatedly spew the same old bullshit. You are a sheep.

Your half-assed statement is incredibly moronic and completely false. Stop putting words in people's mouths. I have NEVER once claimed to be Right or Left, and have long been working to expose the false Left/Right paradigm which gullible people such as yourself fall for.

Any idiot with an elementary-level education knows that Leftists - as is the case with most Righties today - support BIG government. You are an admitted supporter of big government, thus it would be wise to assume you also support the "capitalist" interests that essentially run the government.

You need to wake up!

Also, may I ask why you feel so compelled to tell others "who" and "what" I am, as if they are incapable of thinking for themselves and forming their own opinion? We know you're incapable of thinking for yourself, but at least try to give the people who are brighter than you a little more credit.

I notice a lot of anger and resentment in your threads directed at me, and I sense that I am striking a nerve. Perhaps it could be that you, for some reason, are against the truth. Or, what I am saying is truly striking a nerve within you and forcing you to encounter the false belief system you have embraced for so many years.

After all, if I was just some lunatic-fringe conspiracy theorist, like you and your buddy (and ideological twin) Pointbreak believe, my lunacy and irrationality should stand by itself in discrediting me. It wouldn't entail you expending so much energy and effort in an attempt to make me look bad, as seems to be the case.

 

Can Rat tell us if you will defend himself against the accusation that he is dishonest by returning to threads were he claims he has answered criticisms (when he hadn’t)?

For example at

Pushing conspiracy theory? Why?
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103731

Tribute to Immigration's Terry Anderson
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/sho...818#post1519818

The Controlled Left
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=88026&page=6&pp=10

(And I could link to a number of other threads but he could begin at them.)

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Is Rat now saying he is not a supporter of libertarian type polices? If so why has he changed his views and what political views does he now hold and what policies would he like to bring into place?

 

I am not going to sift through those threads looking for your criticisms. If you have any SPECIFIC questions for me, you can ask me directly in this thread (or start a new one). I will be going to bed shortly, so if I don't answer you within the next couple hours, you can be sure I will sometime tomorrow and haven't "left the table."

 

The problem is that Rat is a serial liar who has claimed many times that he is willing to debate with his critics when he isn’t and doesn’t. A dishonest man who has claimed many times that he has answered questions and criticisms when he hasn’t.

His only reply to these accusations is to ask his critics to once again repeat their questions and criticisms, but why should they when he already leaves these questions and criticisms unanswered whenever they are asked and they have been asked many times elsewhere (as the threads I mentioned prove)?

Isn’t it a bit strange that a man who has published thousands of links on these forums finds it so hard to follow links to the threads where his critics wait for their questions to be answered?

 

1. Anyone who thinks I am Balbus's ideological twin is well and truly gone. The only way you can think this is by dividing the world into two groups: you and your tiny right wing fringe group of paranoid conspiracy theorists, and everyone else.

2. You have never tried to break down the "false right left paradigm", you have mostly tried to rebrand extreme right views as some new branch of political ideology when they clearly are not.

e.g. the Mexican border is not sealed off because "The bankers want to undermine America's European character, which it perceives as a threat."

This is thinly veiled racism. Do you oppose Mexican immigration to order to protect America's "European character"? Care to elaborate?

e.g. "It explains the assault on race, religion, nation and family. The bankers want a homogenous world that offers no basis of resistance." What is the assault on race; religion, nation, and family? What race is being assaulted? How is family under attack - could be be those subversive homoxexuals that control the Republican party?

e.g. "More savvy Leftists, Communists, Feminists and Globalists continue to prosper while unctuously pretending to serve humanity." So its not just the gays and the blacks, its the the feminists too? Right wing views - can't find any evidence of that here, says Rat.

3. "Ever wonder why Leftists like Noam Chomsky never mention international bankers and the credit system?" No, because Chomsky complains about the IMF, World Bank, and western banks all the time. How can you be naive enough to believe this?

4. "Speaking of the Communist takeover of the US government in the 1930's and 1940's". The what?

5. " The over two-million-year human experiment may remain stalled indefinitely because governments did not have the wit, integrity and courage to print their own currencies ." Besides being completely false, this is just as crackpot as it sounds.

 

I am willing to debate you. I have already responded to your ridiculous questions in the past, which you have conveniently ignored, but I am willing to set you straight if that's what you want. I, however, am not going to sift through months old threads, were I am relentlessly attacked and berated by you and your ilk, to find your moronic questions and answer them. You aren't very important to me, neither are your opinions.

So, please, I implore you to go ahead and start a brand new thread asking me everything you want to ask me, for all the people who come to this website to see. If I cannot answer your ridiculous, half-baked questions, my inability to do so will stand alone. This is my offer to you. Take it or leave it. If you choose the later, you can't say I refused to debate you.

Now you're just repeating yourself, using different words to say the same exact thing.

 

Reference for this?

The fact that some guy wrote a book doesn't prove shit.

Provide some proof for this outrageous statement, please.

Again, some proof please. So far you are simply arguing from authority - not exactly a compelling way to argue a case! :roflmao:

 

LOL – Oh Rat, this is just classic misdirection.

He tells us he is willing to debate but not just yet, in other words no he isn’t willing to debate, just willing to say he is willing.

What is it about not just clicking on the links to these threads?

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“I have already responded to your ridiculous questions in the past, which you have conveniently ignored”

Oh man this Rat should be a politician –

Notice he doesn’t say (this time) that he has answered the questions and criticisms levelled at him only that he has responded to them. Think about it, telling someone to go fuck themselves is a response but it is not a sensible or reasonable reply to a question or criticism, well not in most peoples opinion.

I mean in one of the threads Rat is so reluctant to return to (Tribute to Immigration's Terry Anderson) he has called me an ignoramus (Post 10) He has told me he would not debate with me (Post 17). He has told me that I don’t have a grasp of politics or economics (Post 21) He has told me I’m a moron (Post 24), he has told me I’m a “weak, helpless, pathetic person” (Post 26) and he has told me I’m a “Idiot” (Post 30).

All of those were responses to my questions and criticisms in the thread but I ask you are they sensible or reasonable replies?

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“I, however, am not going to sift through months old threads… to find your moronic questions and answer them”

This must be the lamest excuse ever –

Tribute to Immigration's Terry Anderson
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87769&page=4&pp=10

is only 4 pages long and I think the longest post in it is Rats own cut and paste article it is not exactly a chore to read through.

The other thread I mentioned

“Pushing conspiracy theory? Why?”
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=103731&page=1&pp=10

is longer at 8 pages but he only has to read page one since in post 9 he ducked out of answering questions by claiming (once again) that he had “already answered your moronic questions and responded to your repeated accusations. Why should I have to keep repeating myself because you cannot listen and retain?”. Of course that wasn’t true but it did mean he didn’t answer in a reasonable and sensible way.

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Anyway I’ve decided that since it is too much of an effort for Rat to click on a link, I will do what he asks and start a brand new thread, that Rat can go to.

The Rat “I am willing to debate you” thread.

I will begin in the Politics Forum, come one come all.

 

Testify, brother!

 

Rat you can answer my questions right here, unless you´re too busy cutting and pasting some other conspiracy theory into some other thread.

 

Yeah, come on, PR; maybe you can shut them up once and for all.
Seeing so many recaps of the questions annoyed me enough to want to answer myself.
For now let me say that I think libertarian policies would help wages because if the company did cut benefits, as in your example, the employees would quit and the owner would be screwed. This could happen today, but not as well because it's so much harder to find a job than it would be if a free-er market were utilized.
2 cents.

 

Hey Kblaze

You promised in the thread

Pushing conspiracy theory? Why
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1652081#post1652081

Post 76

that “Dude, okay, I'm responding to your and Jim's posts, it should be done by tomorrow”

That was FIVE days ago man and still nothing, I can’t believe that you are another lair so presumably you must have just forgot?

So hoping to hear from you real soon

Yours

Balbus

 

All this Balbus vs Rat is really cracking me up. Takes me back to the older days of yor when LaughinWillow and I use to go at it.LOL

I'm starting to think that a blue and true showdown is in the makings.Betting starts at $200 Raelian-dollars.

 

Arrrrr yes, I remember those days you and willow mud wrestling in the deeper swamps of the protest forum, pulling pig tails in the politic and screaming slutterly in the salons of America Attacks.

What good times were those.

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So Otter I have a hand full of sweaty Raelian-dollars, so what are the odds?

 

LOL! (winks at you for calling me on that; nice work)
A liar; you do resort to strong words very quickly.
Actually I did not forget, I have been working nights, and, suprisingly, I do have a life outside of these forums.
Besides it's obvious the topic is dead, I will respond to it just for the sake of this post, but it looks to me like you are in a situation where no matter what evidence is shown to you, you stick to whatever conclusion you've already came to.
Late

 

Go rat...
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